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Expert Andy Lloyd tells us about The Second Sun!

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posted on May, 12 2010 @ 07:22 PM
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projectcamelotproductions.com...
Go to the page for a diagram at the bottom of The Dark Star in our solar system.



"We visited Andy Lloyd in North England in the middle of a very cold and stormy winter day. He and his wife warmly welcomed us into their home for a hot lunch and then we sat down and talked about his theories on the 2nd sun, or Brown Dwarf that he has been researching for over 10 years. As it happens, his theories are just now gaining support. There was even a recent newspaper article in the SUN about the possibility. Here is an excerpt from his email:



[On Mar 13, 2010, at 9:44 AM, andy lloyd wrote:

Hi Kerry,

I'm glad you're enjoying the book! Yes, I saw the article in the Sun, which has a circulation of about 7 million. That's a lot of Brits finding out about this possibility for the first time. I looked at the article on their website and the comment board attached to the article had a lot of discussion about 2012, so I imagine that most readers thought that there might be an imminent threat from comet showers sent our way by the 'Death Star' Nemesis. Either way, the article shows just how seriously this subject is now taken in the astronomical community. It also follows on nicely from some of the material we discussed in our interview.

I think the Sun picked up the story from the following excellent science article published the day before:

www.astrobio.net...

In this article, various brown dwarf theories are described - from a red dwarf Nemesis body about half a light year away, to a multiple-Jupiter-mass object in the Oort Cloud. Personally, I believe it is nearer than the comet could, as we discussed. The expectation is that if such a body exists, then WISE will find it.

He went on to say:

"I'm hopeful that it will be found in the constellation of Sagittarius. But this is one of the densest areas of background stars in the sky, due to the Milky Way, so the hunt will be that much more difficult in this area.


Many thanks,

Andy Lloyd']

Whereas, coming from the investigations of Camelot I think it is highly likely that even if WISE finds somethin, I doubt we will hear about it until it's too late. And I also think it's very possible if not certain that the secret space program has full knowledge of not only the location but the path the Dark Star and it's accompanying planets are taking.

In fact, Henry Deacon aka Arthur Neumann mentioned the 2nd Sun to us several years ago now when we first made contact with him. He said it was "common knowledge" within the halls of the various alphabet agencies--albeit at a certain level of secrecy.

Meanwhile, Andy has now put his knowledge and insights to work creating very readable fiction that I have to say, after reading his first book, "Ezekiel One", comes very close to a very possible truth in ways some may find too close for comfort. And yes, he has had some "interest from Hollywood" already and he is just now about to publish his second book in the proposed trilogy, called "The Followers of Horus". Needless to say, I hope to be among the first in line to read it once it is released.

Kerry Lynn Cassidy"
Los Angeles, CA




posted on May, 12 2010 @ 07:42 PM
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So Project Camelot believes everything they read in the Sun.
That explains a lot.



posted on May, 12 2010 @ 07:52 PM
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I was a fan of PC, but after a while I'm growing rather suspicious about their reliability. Some of their interviewees are frauds, at-least what I've concluded in research, unless what ever I read was BS.



posted on May, 12 2010 @ 08:08 PM
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The numbers simply don't add up for this pseudo-theory.... if we were in a binary system, we'd experience the gravitational forces from the "second sun", and noticeable effects such as tidal forces would vary enormously whenever it approached.

The maths of Newton's laws of universal gravitation, and Kepler's laws explain the orbits of the planets with just one sun.

If we had another large mass (say 10-20 the mass of Jupiter) orbiting the central mass between a binary system, do you really think it could be hidden. Do you realise how bright Venus or Jupiter is??? We couldn't hide the evidence of these, never mind a brown dwarf.

The sun would also have a larger wobble if it were in a orbital dual with a smaller star. You need to understand how gravity works, and how orbital paths are determined by central points of mass in the solar system.



posted on May, 12 2010 @ 08:35 PM
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My God that woman annoys me. Every time she opens her mouth, she asks questions that show zero understanding of... anything.

Interesting video, I think Andy presents a very well considered, careful arguement. He seems very careful to make clear distinctions between what is conjecture and what comes from "official" scientific sources. Still watching, might have more to comment soon, but star and flag for an interesting video, even if we do have to suffer that woman.



posted on May, 12 2010 @ 10:52 PM
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Listened half way through the interview....Sorry, but what a waste of time that was.

You would think after 10+ years of study he would have something concrete...




posted on May, 12 2010 @ 11:53 PM
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Originally posted by Pocky

[On Mar 13, 2010, at 9:44 AM, andy lloyd wrote:


He went on to say:

"I'm hopeful that it will be found in the constellation of Sagittarius. But this is one of the densest areas of background stars in the sky, due to the Milky Way, so the hunt will be that much more difficult in this area.


Many thanks,

Andy Lloyd']



I'm sorry, but I don't quite understand why it would be more difficult to find a brown dwarf in in the densest area of background stars. Since brown dwarfs do not emit light we would use occultation of known stars to prove the existence of this stellar body and be able to plot its' path. The more background stars we have, the better chance of occultation, and the better chance to prove that this stellar body exists.



posted on May, 13 2010 @ 10:21 AM
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The reality is that both Jupiter and Saturn ARE "brown dwarfs". Both of them are emitting a lot more radiation than they receive from the Sun, but mainstream theories just ignore this.

Saturn has more moons than the Solar System has planets. It would appear that Saturn was a smaller star that was captured by our Sun. We already live in a binary system. There is a reason why in every ancient culture we can find, they always called Saturn the Sun in the old days.



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