reply to post by onequestion
Originally posted by onequestion I am curious what meditation you are using for achieving such "success"? Do you view this "place"
as separate from your current "place"?
This place is separate from my current place but only by vibration not distance or space. I will try and explain it without suffering a nose bleed but
the way I sense it is that the laws that govern mass have no bearing whatsoever and what is important is the depth of tone of the vibration. If I was
to describe it in terms of matter then I could only say that a bee had melded with another bee but the two were not aware of the melding or had even
been aware of the existence of the other.
A molecule slides into the space between molecules and starts to sing the same song, dance to the same tune. It is a terrible analogy but it is as
close as I can describe it without getting tongue tied by bringing in the vital importance of vibration.
Originally posted by onequestion I use the "" because i haven't experienced what you have and cannot describe it. I agree with your
analysis on meditation. Although there is something about the differences in meditation i have been concerned about lately. Let me ask you this, When
you meditate, what is your goal of said meditation?
I started to meditate to achieve astral projection!
My Uncle told me once that he used to do it very often and he told me that he could achieve it very easily and he even wrote down his technique and
left me too it. His wife told me once that when he meditated she touched him once and she experienced a feeling of instant nausea and had a feeling
of falling out of her body and through the bed.
She did not like this I must add.
My uncle did this for years but he only did it for simple laughs and never to learn anything and one day he told me that he would never do it again
because one night he left his body and experienced being grabbed violently and pushed down into his body with a feeling he had just angered something
Months after he told me this my cousin, his son died In Berwick upon Tweed by falling off the road bridge and he broke his neck and back. My uncle
since then has suffered a debilitating disease that has wrecked his heart and lungs and he is pretty much just waiting to die now. He told me with
great seriousness that his antics in astral projection and the silliness of bouncing off walls and just having simple fun with it gained the attention
of something and this something decided to destroy his life.
Now the odd thing about his account is that I have encountered something that I can only call a malevolent entity that I could actually smell that
pretty much told me to wind my neck in, stop meddling in things I cannot understand and know my place as something that is owned (?) or else. I have
never responded well to threats and I laughed at it and willed it to do its worst with the mindset of “death or everything.” For an instant this
thing seemed to recoil and then it got very angry indeed and I was sure I was about to die as I had an instant feeling I had surprised and upset
something that firstly is not used to being surprised and secondly takes being upset by “my kind” very seriously indeed.
The ceiling seemed to collapse on me and this nasty (SNIP) dived down my throat, all dagger-teeth and claws and was gone because I willed it to do its
worse while telling it I was not afraid of it. Horrifyingly I was not asleep, I was wide awake when I experienced this and I never want to go through
Perhaps my uncle experienced something similar only he came off much less fortunate because he did come across that he had been utterly terrified by
something and I do know for certain that he never tried to astral project again – it therefore seems that he took the warning from something and
gave in to fear?
As it happens I do not try to astral project anymore and it was never really my bag, I try to explore the room lined with brushed gold with a mind to
understanding the glyphs that are etched there - with little success I might add.
Originally posted by onequestion That is if you define a goal. Better yet, when you meditate, what is your expected
My expected experience is to break through into this grey room again and connect with the people I met before and talk with the “teacher” types
because I wanted to listen but there was too much background noise and milling confusion. I know I will break through again so I am not in a hurry as
I have a sense of a synchronicity and that things (everything) seem to happen for a reason?
Originally posted by onequestion May this be playing a role? I am worried that some of our experiences may be credit to illusion. I say
our because i have had experiences while meditating, although i do not always associate them with a credible source.
I have actually wondered a few times if I am dancing with insanity but if this is an illusion then the human mind is much more powerful than anyone
could ever imagine because I know I have a vivid imagination but not so vivid as to come up with the things I have experienced. Also I once meditated
back in 2008 (8th of May) and during this mediation I pretty much begged to see a UFO and guess what – I saw two.
Coincidence, illusion or my thoughts were heard? I go with the latter because I tend not to believe in such coincidences and also because my wife saw
one with an ambulance crew many months later as we walked our dog near our house.
Originally posted by onequestion I do not wish to downplay your experience or perspective. I just wish to more understand what it is you
are experiencing. The whole subject of UFO's credibly is for a thread unto itself for another discussion. I would rather explore our conscious
Unfortunately right now it is very difficult for me to put aside the UFO topic because I am still coming to terms and decompressing from the
psychological effect that the latest UFO sighting has had on me and my daughters (7th of this month).
I apologise if I have come close to going of topic but it was not my intent because in effect I believe that meditation and the UFO phenomenon and
even the extraterrestrial visitation phenomenon may be linked, even hardwired to interact concurrently with each other. I go one further and
hypothesise that they are all part of the same infrastructure.
My experience right now is that meditation is unlocking something I have no way to define because I have no point of reference to work from in
explaining it. All I can say to explain my experience right now is that the world seems subtly different and I feel like I have a nagging scratch that
I have been conned by my social programming that started when I was first expected to follow the norm and conform like everyone else.
Something else of note... I am not afraid of anything I know that much and if something negative comes to me from me talking about this so openly then
I say bring it right on (smile).
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