MMA Superstar Ben Henderson Shows Illuminati Sign Before And After Title fight(Fixed Title Fight?), page 2

reply to post by zaiger

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LOL. Wow.

reply to post by onequestion

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I'm a belted martial artist myself. www.veearnisjitsu.com I've trained under David James and his system for years. I don't need your anyone else trying to explain to me about "martial arts" and fighting. MMA is hardly indicative of real figthing and fight for you life type of scenarios. I've been in several life or death situations where I had a gun to my head and a knife to my back and 5 guys wanting to kill me. They are NOT fun and are hardly indicative of what goes on in the "octagon". So save your holier than though rant about fighting and MMA. MMA is a joke.

reply to post by Zosynspiracy

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How are you comparing a sport of athletic competition to a death type of scenario?

MMA is not a joke, most of the rules developed for the sport are to keep athletes from getting injured.

reply to post by network dude

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this was apparently your first post on this thread. so, what do you mean by "you've found us out"?
the illuminati is transparent, these days. they don't even remember which sock puppet they're controlling.
busy, busy.

reply to post by tsurfer2000h

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Heh - I'm an old wrestling fan going way back to even before the 90's.. Yup, DDP and the diamond cutter was the 1st thing I thought of. I never really thought he got enough credit for that - so many guys ended up using variations of that move. Heck, Orton is using it as his finisher today.

Anyway, I did a quick search - I found the following possible...

A triangle like in the Gracie Jiu-Jitsu symbol.
A diamond - to symbolize the "rock" in Rockafella Records
A diamond - to symbolize the "rock" in his Christian faith
A triangle - to symbolize the Father, Son, & Holy Spirit in his Christian faith

Which it actually is - I'm not sure he's said.

reply to post by tsurfer2000h

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You beat me to it i was gonna say the same thing when DDP used it he did it to symbolize his trademark finishing maneuver it was harmless however i don't know why Jay-Z uses it first his record label is named after one of the alleged Illuminati bloodlines second some of his rocawear clothing shows signs of a Illuminati origin such as the all seeing eye on the back of the dollar bill on one of his hats, so who knows??? Same symbol different meaning who knows....

Originally posted by King Seesar
reply to post by tsurfer2000h

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You beat me to it i was gonna say the same thing when DDP used it he did it to symbolize his trademark finishing maneuver it was harmless however i don't know why Jay-Z uses it first his record label is named after one of the alleged Illuminati bloodlines second some of his rocawear clothing shows signs of a Illuminati origin such as the all seeing eye on the back of the dollar bill on one of his hats, so who knows??? Same symbol different meaning who knows....

Rock-a-fella was the name of a gay rapper who was friends with Jay-Z and Dame Dash.

The Rockefeller Family weren't just one of the Illuminati bloodlines, they are one of the top.

reply to post by Diplomat

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You are right. Which makes the Holy Trinity explanation, since he is an outspoken Christian, by far the most plausible.

reply to post by Snowi

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for what its worth, i study jiu jitsu and the guillotine choke does not make you unable to breath, it cuts off blood flow to the brain via the sides of the neck, if its put on right it could make you pass out very quickly. there is a chance that was the case. i didnt see the fight so i'm not sure if that was the case here or not. just throwing it out there.

good post though, there may be something to it, where there is money there is a chance for corruption.

reply to post by vcwxvwligen

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Never heard of Rock-a-fella the rapper intresting, i thought he named his record label that name for one of two reasons either too endear himself with the elites mainly the Rockefellers or he named it that after Rockefeller plaza depending on what you believe but that's the first i heard of Rock-a-fella the rapper....


As far as the Rockefellers go yea there right up there with the Rothschilds in terms of the modern day Illuminati or if you prefer TPTB if you don't consider the modern Illuminati the same as the Bavarian Illuminati people prefer the term the powers that be moniker.


As far as the hand sign Jay-Z does like i said i seen Rocawear clothing that some would call Illuminati related as i was talking about earlier so i don't know his motive or meaning of his hand gesture, i just know that Diamond Dallas Page did it to signal his finisher the diamond cutter, so who really knows why Jay-Z does it could mean something or not...

I Think Ben is just using the MMA Lab sign and not an illuminati sign..

jcbjj.com...

reply to post by InvisibleAlbatross

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It's funny but if you take this whole thread and look to the people who got it right, 97% of you are wrong... Don't you also wonder how many other incorrect assumptions you make, that fit your world view??

Maybe your world view is incorrect because you all make way too many assumptions. If you actually just do some simple research, like checking his martial arts website, if you actually look at his wikpedia article or follow him at all (Ben Henderson has said it many times) its clear what it really is.

I find it interesting that most of you make many assumptions based on almost 0 evidence. How far are you all using mistakes like this, to shape your world view?

Its kinda scary.... I hope at least 97% of you are really young, because you need to learn how to research something. You cannot expect to find any truths to life if you don't look deep and 97% of you aren't at all.

Yasellior has one part of it right. The symbol is one of his martial arts gym. The MMA Lab symbol.
mmalab.com...

But it comes from a deeper source. The symbol he is making is the triangle. One of the MMA Lab owners (John Crouch) who is proud of his heritage had trained for over 10 years and got their base Brazilian Jiu Jitsu from the Gracies. He trained with Helio Gracie the originator of Brazilian Jiu jitsu and Royce Gracie (the first gracie to fight in the UFC and show Brazilian Jiu Jitsu was the father of all martial arts) and Rorian Gracie.

The symbol of the triangle is them showing respect for the Gracies and how the MMA Lab came in to being and it has nothing to do with secret societies.
www.gracieacademy.com...

You guys seriously need to be less paranoid about things... its a bit disturbing...

The biggest joker of this thread is... Zosynspiracy

Seriously where do you get your information man? Its sad.

Originally posted by kyle43
Maybe it is, maybe it isn't. I've seen that hand signal used by others before that more than likely have no idea who or what the "illuminati" is.

Also, being in a guillotine isn't about holding your breath, it hurts and when you know your in one there isn't much you can do. I'm not sure exactly what happens but if someone can put a good one on you, you'd be very lucky to last the 4 seconds. It hurts.

It cuts off the blood going to your head via the jugular veins in your neck. If you don't tap, you will be out in 7 seconds and unconscious. If your already out of breath, you could choke out sooner, not due to the blood choke, but to lack of air.

A blood choke is different then an air choke.

A blood choke, you can breath fine, it hurts, but you are fine. Then all the sudden everything starts getting white and if you don't tap, you will wake up with people around you.

An air choke is very painful and feels like you are drowning. You run out of breath and if you don't tap you can go out very quickly.

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