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Poll: 31% say America needs 3rd party

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posted on May, 12 2010 @ 01:43 PM
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Poll: 31% say America needs 3rd party




According to the poll, more than 80% see problems with America's two-party system -- with 31% believing it's seriously broken and that America needs a third party, and with another 52% saying that it has real problems but that it can still work with some improvements


I agree with this 100%. Im sick of being stuck in the middle (and to quote South Park) and having the choice between a 'douche' and a 'turd sandwich'.

Im a moderate through and through and its hard. I believe in gun rights, but im also pro choice, im anti-welfare, but i loathe religon (in politics). I want to be able to vote for a middle of the road guy.

I dont want to always have to choose between a crying liberal who wants to ban guns, and hand out money to everyone and every compnay in need, or a war hungry, bible thumper who wants to take away my civil rights. Either way BOTH party is horribly corrupted and have both gone so far to there respective sides as to be almost unvotable for me.




posted on May, 12 2010 @ 01:45 PM
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I agree the two party system is crap. Although adding a third party will add just another pile of crap politicians who will be corrupted by Corp and Special Interests just like the other two.

I think an "Independant" party, is where it needs to go, although it would not really be a party.

~Keeper



posted on May, 12 2010 @ 01:48 PM
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I agree, id be for an independent party, but it seems most of the 'independent candidates' are too crazy and right (or left) wing for there prospective parties (im looking at yuo Ralph Nader and Ross Perot)



posted on May, 12 2010 @ 01:49 PM
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F the two party system. It is a giant joke. This country is broke and they are the reason for it. I used to favor the democrats but after Obama my faith in the democrats is done. I voted for him mainly to get the troops of out of the middle east. I do NOT want unjustified wars and he gets into office and puts in 40,000 more troops... WTF! Complete opposite of what he promised.



posted on May, 12 2010 @ 01:52 PM
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Great, It would just be away to divide Americans further.

Let's have a no party system.



posted on May, 12 2010 @ 01:54 PM
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I believe the only way for us to create a healthy political environment that includes all people and their beliefs spanning the American spectrum would be to create a ‘left-wing’ party. A Progressive Party that would permit the left-wing Democrats to join it, which would allow the Republicans to move further right and the Democratic Party to become more like the ‘Blue Dog Coalition’ of Conservative Democrats and Centrists.

Creating a national Centrist party is also a good idea because it would allow the Democrats to move further left and the Republicans further right. Either way I believe creating a competitive third party is America’s only solution. At least two political parties would be required to form a coalition or cooperate in order to pass legislation which would force politicians to ‘work across the aisle’.



posted on May, 12 2010 @ 01:54 PM
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I also voted for Obama and though he is slowly pulling troops out of Iraq hes basically sending them to Afghanistan. I dont oppose sending troops there as much as i did sending them into Iraq. Before he's done office i have faith he'll have most of our boys home.



posted on May, 12 2010 @ 02:07 PM
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Gerald Celente predicted the rise of the 3rd party in America by the next election. But like others have said I doubt they will win, unless they buy their own news station. Anyway democrats and republicans are basically one entity now. In monetary and foreign policy what has really changed between presidents? Nothing, just sliding from bad to worse continuously. George Carlin pretty much sums up my views on politics and who controls things here: (Yes, I know he is just a comedian but what he says is still true)


I'd still vote for Ron Paul if he runs with a good VP candidate, though.



posted on May, 12 2010 @ 02:13 PM
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So what is going to happen?

Is someone just going to 'magic' a third pary out of thin air?

There must be plentry of political parties in the USA already, just they get little exposure and absolutely no chance to broadcast their opinions etc and Heaven forbid if it should have 'Socialist' in it's name.

But surely it should be a natural thing, where people just start supporting another point of view or party through the natural course of events and development etc.

Why does this just sound so manufactured and contrived to me.

And as for an 'Independant Party', nice sentiments but do you see the contradiction?



posted on May, 12 2010 @ 02:16 PM
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At the risk of offending the more 'entrenched' partisan types I remain in contention with the notion that there are TWO parties in the first place.

Our politicians change party coats as it suits them, there's always a rationale about it, but the bottom line is, for the last century or so each party (with notable exceptions) has accomplished virtually nothing the other party wasn't going to adhere to in the first place.

It is not the PARTY that needs competition; it's the PARTY SYSTEM that needs to be eradicated and rebuilt by citizens.

Career politicians, by my reckoning, are only "ACTORS" who are coached, trained, and scripted in what they say and do.

We need people who are servants of the nation; not leaders of some club.

We need actual patriots, not social climbers; we need analytical minds, and fearless enemies of corruption, not celebrities and pretty faces.

We need to eliminate the entire popularity-contest-by-media approach.

Realistically that will not happen since media is part of the problem with the political machinery.

In closing: We don't need a THIRD party, we need a "true" SECOND party. One that is not beholden to mega-banks and mega-corporations for their existence. Right now, no one get's to serve unless they are backed by interests that are completely separate and distinct from the individual citizens of the nation. (It was corporate citizenship that began the decay..,) and both so-called 'different' parties of note are bought lock, stock, and barrel, by all the glitz and glamor corporate/media can provide.



[edit on 12-5-2010 by Maxmars]



posted on May, 12 2010 @ 02:26 PM
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Am I the only one who finds the percentage amusing? 31% is close to 33.3%.

1/3 republican, 1/3 democrat, 1/3 other.

The main reason we need a 3 party system is because 2/3 of the people support an existing party.



posted on May, 12 2010 @ 02:30 PM
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It would be nice IF 31% of the Americans were WILLING TO PARTICIPATE instead of just watch. THAT would make a difference.



posted on May, 12 2010 @ 03:00 PM
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Its true. If those 31% would speak up and vote it WOULD make a difference and people would have to take notice. Instead they dont. Im as guilty as this as the next guy. I hate our 2 party system but i realise if i vote for a 3rd party its almost like throwing my vote away, so i choose the lesser of 2 evils.



posted on May, 12 2010 @ 03:10 PM
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...i agree with maxmars - we dont have a two party system, thats just a facade... having three or four or eighteen parties wont change that, imo...

...i used to believe the "no confidence" option would be a good thing - but - now, i think the system is too screwed up to be salvaged... we need a new system - one that doesnt include the electoral college and cant be fixed but thats probably impossible...

...it used to be that when someone said they're republican, you knew what that meant - same with democrats... nowadays it means whatever the wearer wants it to mean that day, that moment - same goes for conservative, liberal or any of the other labels...



posted on May, 12 2010 @ 03:37 PM
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Here is a political party for all centrists and pragmatists.

Modern Whig Party


The six tenets of the Modern Whig philosophy are:

Fiscal responsibility – "The Modern Whig philosophy is to empower the states with the resources to handle their unique affairs."
Energy independence – "Reduce dependence on foreign oil by developing practical sources of alternative energy. This will have the simultaneous effect of changing the national security dynamic."
Education/Scientific advancement – "Increased public and private emphasis on fields such as space, oceanic, medical and nanotechnology. Also, providing common-sense solutions to enhance our educational system from pre-school to university-level studies."
States' rights – "Each state can determine its course of action based on local values and unique needs."
Social progression – "Government should refrain from legislating morality."
Veterans affairs – "Vigilant advocacy relating to the medical, financial, and overall well-being of our military families and veterans."



posted on May, 12 2010 @ 03:46 PM
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No confidence would be great minus the fact congress would be screaming it constantly.

As for the 2 party system being a facade. For the most part it is, though in teh past 10 years or so theyve started to drift so far apart that neither side knows what the average American wants anymore. All they care about is keeping the guys who fund there campaign happy.



posted on May, 12 2010 @ 06:30 PM
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a third party would be nice. i would imagine it being run by people who don't have their heads up their asses so far they're going back for seconds and they would run it based on the beliefs this country was founded on. but of course if anyone ever stepped forward like that we would all respond with "i don't believe you" because after so many lies, i don't.



posted on May, 12 2010 @ 06:44 PM
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This Election cycle is not the one, to get all 3rd Party crazy. We need to equalize the two unworthy parties we have now... We need to shift complete control from the Democrats, and get some of the lesser of two evils in the House, and Senate.



posted on May, 12 2010 @ 10:58 PM
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we saw how well 3 parties worked in england this past week.

the major problem is once elected they serve there own interests and not that of the country.

so in my humble opinion its not the parties its the absolute power corrupting absolutley.



posted on May, 12 2010 @ 11:39 PM
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What scares the PTB is a 3rd party they do not control. There is at least one such party in the U.S.

They also fear a greater number of people that see the system as failed.



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