Originally posted by MikeboydUS
reply to post by hawkiye
Ireland was settled by stone age hunter gatherers at least as far back as 7500 BC.
They built various megalithic structures, some as early as 3200 BC.
The Celts originated in central Europe forming their culture as early as 1400 BC.
The Celts arrived in Britain around the 6th century BC and expanded into Ireland around that same time.
Whether or not the arrival of the Celts in Ireland was an actual invasion, or a more gradual assimilation, is an open question... Current academic opinion favours the theory that the Celts arrived in Ireland over the course of several centuries, beginning in the late Bronze Age with Celts of the early iron-using Hallstatt group of people, to be followed after 300BC by Celts of the La Tène cultural group which formed within the Hallstatt group.
P Harbinson: "Pre-Christian Ireland, from the First Settlers to the Early Celts", Thames and Hudson, 1994
Originally posted by zzombie
Libertarian or LIBERALtarian ?
The reason I no longer consider myself a Libertarian is:
Libertarians are supposed to be against the welfare state, yet many favor the idea of welcoming Illegal Aliens with open arms. (Welfare state)
Open Trade with slave nations will reduce your wages to that of a slave, yet many Libertarians blindly support open trade. (globalism)
Originally posted by airspoon
reply to post by broahes
I knew that he meant lack of law enforcement under government, but it would seem that he was emplying that this would lead to chaos and/or lawlessness, to which I replied that anarchy doesn't mean lack of total law enforcement. So what if law enforcement was not done by a government, if law enforcement could be done by someone with vested interest in the outcome.
In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district where in the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defense.
In suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise re-examined in any court of the United States, than according to the rules of the common law.
No person shall be held to answer for any capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.
Originally posted by endisnighe
There is one tenet of Libertarianism.
You have the RIGHT to do anything as long as you do not infringe on someone else's rights of Life, Liberty or Property.
I will always be your friend and benefactor.
You have the right to your own world. You have the right to believe in what you want. You have the right to self determination.
Why the HELL are you not a Libertarian?
Originally posted by endisnighe
reply to post by For(Home)Country
So, if you do not believe in freedom as you so pointedly said, what do you believe in, Slavery?
You bringing up corporations, tells me you are not a student of history.
Who created corporations? Care to tackle that one?
Who created the federal reserve? Who created the income tax?
Just a few questions for you. I see in your avatar you are a anti-libertarian.
Change it just for my thread? Or have you always hated freedom?
Originally posted by poet1b
Do you guys realize that the anarchist theories you put forth are exactly what Marx theorized in his Communist Manifesto. You guys are calling for communism, which is the exact opposite of a market system. It simply doesn't work, and this has been proven over and over again.
You need an evenly enforced fair set of rules for a market system to function. There has to be a system in place that establishes standards, not only for weights and measurements, but also for licensing and safety requirements. Without these evenly enforced sets of rules, different groups are able to abuse the system, and the rights of others which prevents any level field to establish competition which creates market efficiency.
As far as state and local government rights verses federal government goes, state and local governments are more easily controlled and dominated by special interests which deny large portions of the population their ability to participate in the markets. State and local government have historically been far more abusive of individual rights.
The current system in place that subsidizes illegal slave labor is a prime example of how local governments can deprive individuals of their ability to participate in the markets.
Originally posted by lastzoroastrianleft
reply to post by MikeboydUS
quote a line from the book in which it states IRELAND is older than Sumeria. Honestly, it sounds like a bit of rubish to me, some kind of Irish ego crap. Everyone knwos that the dawn of man probably came out of Africa anyways. Religions and evolution even agree on that.
Please, post a link to a libertarian market model and a communist model.
Maximilien Rubel's 1973 article highlighting the libertarian elements within Marx's work and its importance to anarchism, regardless of Marx's lengthy critiques of famous anarchist theoreticians.
In the reflections which follow we will try to show that, under the name communism, Marx developed a theory of anarchism; and further, that in fact it was he who was the first to provide a rational basis for the anarchist utopia and to put forward a project for achieving it. In view of the limited scope of the present essay we will only put this forward as an item for discussion. Proof by means of quotations will be reduced to a minimum so as to better bring out the central argument: Marx theoretician of anarchism.
This democracy that we live in today still follows many of the guidelines set forth by John Locke hundreds of years ago. Today, in America, we have publicly elected leaders, from which we have the right to take our power. " (Locke) John Locke's thoughts and ideas are not only the beginning of a foundation of our country, but they are also an embodiment of what our country strives to maintain in its' function as a governmental system. (Locke) In Locke's writings, it is suggested that a judicial power is necessary for a proper system of government. Today, issues that Locke talked about still are discussed and argued. end result is that "men will unite under a commonwealth, and put themselves under a government, for the mutual preservation of their lives, liberties, and estates. "(Locke) Locke's ideas on the reasons for a governing body are mentioned in the Constitution. As a country, we are still working out the rights we should and should not have. He writes that in the society he has thought of, there will be "judges, who are to decide controversies by laws"(Locke) , and the judges purpose is to "dictate what is proportionate to a transgression, which is so much as may serve for reparation and restraint. Many people feel strongly about freedom of speech. In the documents that created and legitimized the United States of America, the founding fathers demanded the same type of government envisioned by Locke. "(Locke) Locke also states that the punishment of the court should be "proportionate to his [the offender's] transgressions, which so as much as may serve for reparation and restraint. Every law that is passed, and every decision that is made by the government, is assumed to be in the best interests of the American people. "(Locke) Locke believed in the idea of a governing body that can retain man's equality and natural rights. "(Locke) Locke believes that government is a natural occurrence, and that government is a necessity for survival.