There is one tenet of Libertarianism.

You have the RIGHT to do anything as long as you do not infringe on someone else's rights of Life, Liberty or Property.

I will always be your friend and benefactor.

You have the right to your own world. You have the right to believe in what you want. You have the right to self determination.

Why the HELL are you not a Libertarian?

Cause Libertarianism is just a nice way to say Anarchy.

Which kind of doesn't work in a real world sense.

Cause you are assuming that everybody doesn't want at some point to infringe on people's rights.

The fact is that some people just wanna see the world burn.

Now I am of "Libertarian" values, I support most of the agenda, but a full out Libertarian culture is like a Utopia, nice to think about, impossible to implement.

~Keeper

sounds like anarchy to me.

I am an american and we dont have this party here. I support freedom and god by voting republican. The republicans are the true patriots who are not afraid to go toe to toe against liberals who want to burn our flag in the streets like these libertarians. I cant support a group that spits on the american way of life by burning our flag or demonizing President Bush, the last true president.

I can field this one.
Massive disclaimer first.
I have been labeled libertarian
by many people in many conversations.
So please take the following as just perspective.

Facist tyrant runs for office. Holds press conference
with hordes of conformist zombies shouting adorations.
"What are the liberals gonna do? Start agreeing with each other?"

In other words 1 million Libertarians = 1 million opinions.


David Grouchy

Originally posted by tigpoppa
sounds like anarchy to me.

I am an american and we dont have this party here. I support freedom and god by voting republican. The republicans are the true patriots who are not afraid to go toe to toe against liberals who want to burn our flag in the streets like these libertarians. I cant support a group that spits on the american way of life by burning our flag or demonizing President Bush, the last true president.

What?

You think there's a difference between Dems and the GOP?

So they have you brainwashed too eh?

You do know they answer to the same people right? The corporations and the bankers?

What you see on TV is just the the scripted reality series they are paid to play out, to make you think they are different.

Trust me, they are not.

Doesn't matter who you vote for, or who wins any elections, things will continue as planned.

~Keeper

You are a libertarian and then what? What can be accomplished in a more broader spectrum?

Not being disrespectful, I'm just curious as to how things would change if lets say a couple of million people decide to succumb to libertarianism.

Originally posted by tigpoppa
sounds like anarchy to me.

I am an american and we dont have this party here. I support freedom and god by voting republican. The republicans are the true patriots who are not afraid to go toe to toe against liberals who want to burn our flag in the streets like these libertarians. I cant support a group that spits on the american way of life by burning our flag or demonizing President Bush, the last true president.

You're out of your mind, sir.

There is no political party that God supports and you're crazy for believing it.

That being said, if it were possible that humans were all alone, Libertarianism would certainly be a way of being - and it really actually is the way of being.

Of course I believe in God and believe that His way is the only way...........

But do not fool yourself into believing that His way is political at all.

See?
Plenty of
libertarian
leanings in this
thread but no two
voices are in agreement.

"What are they gonna do?
Start agreeing with each other?"

/game /set * /match


David Grouchy

Libertarians don't believe in initiating force against others. That means all forms of force, whether it be financial force, physical force, legislative force, etc... Of course, this doesn't mean that you can't apply force back to someone who has initiated force against you. It's basically the same principal as ultimate liberty. You have all the liberty in the world, up until it impedes on the liberties of someone else, which then turns it into a responsibility.

America was founded on the principals of liberty. It's a shame that we no longer have liberty at all. Just think about it, we don't even have the liberty to decide what we put in our bodies. We don't have the liberty to decide how and when we'll die. We don't have the liberty to protect our persons or possessions. We don't have the liberty to catch, kill or gather our own meals. Most liberties that are completely self evident and handed to us by our creator/s, we no longer have as we surrendered them to the government. We are basically allowing the government to make our choices for us because somehow, the people think that the government knows how to manage lives better than the owners of those lives.

I don't know about anyone else but I think I know how to live my life better than anyone else and just as I wouldn't let "joe-blow" manage my check book, I don't want the government to manage my life. After all, they don't even hold our best interests at heart.

--airspoon