Originally posted by Jakomo
Here in Israel we don't fight terrorism they way we do just because it's fun. We do this because it's the only way we are able
to defend ourselves.
Yeah well, Israel's case is a little different. Israel is awesome at MAKING terrorists (launching missile into crowds, bulldozing houses, snipering
And it's easy for them , because they have all the palestinians packed into the largest open air prison in the world. It's like shooting fish in a
Defending yourself from terrorist attacks from a nation that you have militarily occupied for over 30 years contrary to international criticism isn't
exactly going to sway me.
You occupy their land for 30 years and you wonder why they are willing to kill themselves to kill IDF troops?
Take away someone's hope, take away their dreams, take away their future, and don't be surprised when they themselves perceive their lives to be
Actually we had terrorists BEFORE we boldozed houses, BEFORE we started to shoot gunman, and actually even BEFORE we had an army.
You might not believe it, but from an historical point of view, our actions actually decrease terrorism, and before we started killing Hammas leaders
and other terrorists we had much more dead people, and much more succesfull terror attacks on Israelis. The only reason we have less casualties than
them is because this way of defense WORKS (and because we - unlike them - don't form huge groups of civilians and go to throw stones and molotov
cocktails at them), and the only reason we are continueing to use it is because it works MUCH better that making peace treaties with them, treaties
that for some reason (probably because they won't peace so badly... yeah right) caused only more murdered israeli families.
We don't snipe kids unless they are armed and threatening IDF forces (or unless IDF soldiers decide to do it with no apparent reason. In this case
those soldiers are sent to prison). And they ARE armed, and they DO shoot at our soldiers. Not to mention that they have no reason to be in hostile
areas in the first place. but for some mysterious reason - they are alsways there. (or maybe you think that IDF soldiers just hunt them down whereever
they are...). We NEVER fired missile into a crowd on purpose, and mistakes always happen (By the way, eventually it turned out that the missiles fired
didn't even hit the crowd, and there where casualties because of a tank shell. And 8 people died, not 22 as the claimed).
So today the Palestinians shoot and kill a pregnant woman and all of her children from zero range just because of their "poor" lives, ten years ago
it was because of some other reason, and 70 years ago (when they murdered dozens of jews on the streets when we couldn't even protect ourselves) it
was just because they didn't liked us.
You know, we didn't "invade" Israel as you might think. It was a british territory, and the UK agreed to help us and form a jewish state for us.
But the Palestinians didn't like it, so they murdered some jews. UK investigated and published a document with restrictions on the JEWS. We obeyed,
and they continued slaughtering us. So UK investigated some more, and published another document (2nd white book), with more restrictions. We obeyed,
and the Palestinians murdered some Jews again.
How can we make peace with them when they teach their children that we are all monsters and murdurers, and that it is noble thing to kill Jews? how
can we make peace when they show their children maps of "Palestine" with no Israel on them?
You see a kid who got shot because he fired at an IDF soldier, and you pitty him. Did you know that his parents probably think that the most noble
thing on earth is to send their son to suicide in Israel and to kill as many Jews as possible while doing so?
You read some articles about their poor way of life, and their half ruined houses, and you think we are too cruel to them. Did you know that I can
write almost the same article by looking at the lives of many civilians in Egypt, for example? only little of what an ordinary palestinian boy does in
a regular day has anything to do with our military presence there.
And as I said before, treating them better only leads to the purchase of more illegal wepons and more blown up Israeli buses, it just becomes much
more easier for them to do.
I have no way to prove it, but as a citizen of Israel I can assure you that if they trully wanted peace, they would have had their own state years
ago, they even would have recieved large economical support from Israel. For most of the Israelis - There is nothing we want more than peace, and
than't what we tach our children in schools. But we will NOT risk our lifes and give them land and money when we see that all they want - from the
beginning of our history with them - is our death.
[edit on 8/6/04 by Transc3ndent]