Why all the Islamaphobia in the UK?, page 3
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reply posted on 12-5-2010 @ 11:21 AM by Resentedhalo08
Originally posted by 23432

Jihad indeed but I am afraid you are not really clued in on the meaning of Jihad and are only thinking in terms of violence and war .
Jihad is more then war and violence .




I am very clued up on the meaning of Jihad, do not take me to be some uninformed fool who is uneduacated on such things!
Yes Jihad is more than war and violence, BUT war and violence are large aspects of Jihad... they are some of the tools of Jihad, brute force, agression and slaying of infidels.

What a loving, tolerant, peaceful religion you are a member of!

here is the wikipedia definition of Jihad...

please click here



There was a war and one side lost and the other won . Nothing new here , is there ?


A war fought in the name of Jihad, a war that was intent on converting others to islam, does it not say in the qu'ran that those who refuse to turn to islam will be slayed and in the most gruesome of ways? That any muslim may take whomever they want in the name of allah by force and guile?


Yes infidel , you gonna burn and burn good in hell . Come to Islam before it is too late .


Yes I am an infidel,a kuffar and I am damn proud of it! I am the thorn in your side that does not go away, I infect your wound that you call your faith. I will NEVER turn to your sick, intolerant religion!

I will not burn in hell, you are brainwashed in thinking that all those who do not worship in the name of allah will forever burn in hell. Isn't allah such a loving god, condemning the VAST majority of the earth who are unbelievers into hell, wouldn't a loving god offer them a chance no matter what religion they believe?!?! Therefore, your god allah is a fraud!


"O ye who believe! Take not the Jews and Christians for friends."

I have friends from both faiths . You are reading too much into it .


No I am NOT reading too much into it, it says it in your Qu'ran clear as day, big and bold and in numerous passages that it is forbidden to take infidels and kuffars as friends, anyone who is not a muslim is considered to be an infidel and a kuffar.

In not practicing what the Qu'ran says then you are not a TRUE muslim and are therefore a hippocryte! The vast majority of practicing muslims who take the Qu'ran as 100% and must be obeyed would undoubtably consider you to be among the infidels for not obeying the word of allah...

you are a misguided individual and a hippocryte in my opinion.



"Mohammed said, 'I have been ordered to fight with the people till they say, none has the right to be worshipped but Allah'.



That is right . None has the right to be worshipped but the Creator of All .

Fight , does not necessarly mean violence or war . One can have a pillow fight too .



It all depends on the other side .



Are you completely nieve?

Understand the context in which the word fight is being used numerous times in the Qu'ran, in more or less every context it is being used in a negative, agressive and warlike manner!

Don't make me laugh... a pillowfight?!? does it mention anywhere in the Qu'ran about having pillow fights with infidels??? I think not, instead it in no doubt talks about how the kuffar must be converted by ANY means nessacary and how the infidels msut be slain in the most barbaric and torturous ways possible!

It's all about context and in 95% of the context regarding infidels and kuffars the context is agressive and violent.


reply posted on 12-5-2010 @ 12:00 PM by TruthxIsxInxThexMist
reply to post by Saf85



You know full well you don't offer all this freeness in other Country's... England has become too soft and too PC towards others (especially Muslims)... allowing them to bring all their BS with them and to turn parts of England into Muslim areas and this includes Somalians....

I thought the idea of immigrating and intergrating was to do with the fact that when you choose to live in another part of the World, you abide by their rules and regulations... what you are doing is forcing beliefs onto others... you even said something very hypocritical in your last post... i'll leave it to you to find what it was...

Why do you insist on fighting to bring Islamic ways into European Culture?

Why can you not just dress and behave in a European way?

Why do us Europeans have to put up with your religion and dress?

Why not follow the other cultures who have come here and abided by our rules?

Why don't you go back to an Islamic Country if you still want to abide by the Islamic code?

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reply posted on 12-5-2010 @ 10:57 PM by Solomons
reply to post by TruthxIsxInxThexMist



Would you like me to tell you how to dress? didn't think so, they can wear whatever they choose. And Jewish people have predominantly Jewish areas, don't see a big fuss about that. As for wanting Islamic laws, a minority want full shariah law implemented which i strongly disagree with. Most(some don't care) simply want aspects of it for civil disputes, something i fully support.

[edit on 12-5-2010 by Solomons]


reply posted on 12-5-2010 @ 11:23 PM by Tiger5
reply to post by dampnickers



Well in Bradford the Drug trade is controlled by the moslem element of the criminal fraternity. What you expereinced was more about gang/ drug turf issues.

Either way I am not diminishing the upset any sane person would feel.

Rtgds

T


reply posted on 12-5-2010 @ 11:29 PM by Tiger5
reply to post by Saf85



Sorry mate..

The lasg bit of the OP about the threat of rioting is wrong. The minority will riot but must moslems would not. Educated people think twice about rioting. You were not in the Brixton riots - I was, as I was living in the UK at the timeand live in Brixton.

All the police will do is to contain the riot and sit it out. The Fundies will burn down their own area.

If you remember there was Irish-Phobia when the IRA were bombing the mainland. We have Islamophobia now because of the bombing.

Soon the Moslem society will have to split with one side supporting the Fundies and the other denouncing them and taking a more progressive stance. It may haver already happened.


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