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The People v. the Bankers

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posted on May, 11 2010 @ 04:58 PM
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Bank lobbyists know that the financial game is over. They are playing for the short run. The financial sector’s aim is to take as much bailout money as it can and run, with large enough annual bonuses to lord it over the rest of society after the Clean Slate finally arrives. Less public spending on social programs will leave more bailout money to pay the banks for their exponentially rising bad debts that cannot possibly be paid in the end. It is inevitable that loans and bonds will default in the usual convulsion of bankruptcy.

Greek labor is not yet so pessimistic as to give up the fight. What it recognizes (which its American counterparts do not) is that somebody will control the government. If labor – the demos – loses its spirit, power will be relinquished to foreign creditors to dictate public policy by default. And the more the bankers’ interest is served, the worse and more debt-burdened the economy will become. Their gain is bought at the price of domestic austerity. Scheduled payouts by Greek pension funds and government social spending programs must be to replenish German and other European bank capital.


www.counterpunch.com...

This guy seems to be predicting the end of things for these countires in holding massive deficits. They WILL BE forced to turn to the IMF, European Union such as Greece, Latvia, Estonia and Iceland have been forced to do. As a result savage cuts will be made to their public spending, which means job losses, pension cuts, wage cuts. Also included will be the selling off of any remaining state assets and we will basically see the end of these countries as 'states' run by their elected leaders and the coming to power of the oligrachs in the IMF and European Union.

This kind of shock therapy is outlined in Naomi Klein's highly readable ' The Shock Doctrine'.


That evidently is what stock markets around the world anticipated when they soared on Monday morning at the news of Europe’s trillion-dollar bailout. What really was bailed out is the principle that economies should be stripped so that finance capital may rule. But the fight surely is not yet over.

It will escalate for the remainder of the 2010s, because it is nothing less than an attempt to roll back the history of the 19th and 20th century’s struggle to replace the power of vested property and financial interests with principles of progressive taxation and public enterprise.

Is this where Western civilization really is supposed to be leading? Confronted by parliaments controlled by aristocracies, the 19th-century reformers sought to take them over on behalf of democracy. Classical political economy was a reform program to tax away the “free lunch” of land rents, monopoly rents and financial interest extraction. John Maynard Keynes celebrated this program in his gentle term, “euthanasia of the rentiers.”


www.counterpunch.com...

This guy seems to be no mug. Michael Hudson is Chief Economic Advisor to the Reform Task Force Latvia (RTFL) www.rtfl.lv... He is the author of America's Protectionist Takeoff. His website is michael-hudson.com.

Are things this bad? Are we really at the hub of an attempt by the ruling classes to roll back the prgressive and reformist principles of parts of the 19th and 20th centuries?

Are we going to take it?

[edit on 11-5-2010 by Peruvianmonk]




posted on May, 11 2010 @ 05:45 PM
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Will this reach the U.S.? Or will the countries who issue their own currency such as the U.S. and U.K. (Thank god we didn't join the Euro) Japan and others be able to pay their debts and hold on to their Sovereignty?



posted on May, 11 2010 @ 05:49 PM
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Ummmmmm don't know what you are talking about. The US does not issue it's own currency. That changed in 1913 with the Federal Reserve act. Private banks print our "money" and charge the US government interest for doing so. Where do you think our debt comes from and just who do you think we owe it to? If we printed our own money we would be in debt to ourselves and no one else.



posted on May, 11 2010 @ 06:02 PM
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Ok you may well be right on that issue.

What i meant was your own currency as in not tied to some kind of Bloc like the Euro where you do not hold soverign authority on your economic policies (At least if your not France or Germant).

That state of affairs puts countries like Greece at a severe disadvantage as they cannot devalue their currency or print money to save themselves.



posted on May, 11 2010 @ 06:54 PM
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Originally posted by Peruvianmonk
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Ok you may well be right on that issue.

What i meant was your own currency as in not tied to some kind of Bloc like the Euro where you do not hold soverign authority on your economic policies (At least if your not France or Germant).

That state of affairs puts countries like Greece at a severe disadvantage as they cannot devalue their currency or print money to save themselves.



California as an economy is 4x the size of Greece and they are bankrupt...too...

[edit on 11-5-2010 by seataka]



posted on May, 11 2010 @ 07:02 PM
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Actually while the FEDS may be able to increase capital .. or digital dollars.. only Congress can actually "print" the money... it's why our "total dollars in circulation" is so weird and confusing to understand. While we spent billions, no, trillions to bailout the economy, Congress never raised the printing levels of Dollars.. the US Mints are still printing the same amount of cash and coin, even though the money supply increased drastically.

But should the US Government so choose to, they could directly monetize debts by printing billion dollar bills..... if they so chose to do so.
Granted.. our economy would have to be dead and gone to reach such levels of desperation.



posted on May, 11 2010 @ 07:25 PM
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I am wondering why/how Merkel was on the fence about whether or not to bail out Greece. The German people weren't happy about the possiblity of having their hard earned and saved cash going to a bunch of 54 y/o Greek gov't retirees hangin out on the beach. She seemed likely to approve it but with harsh conditions, a firm commitment from France and flowing the cash through the IMF. Last weekend she unilateraly decided for Germany that a ONE TRILLION ($US) bailout for the PIIGS of the E.U. something stinks.



posted on May, 11 2010 @ 07:32 PM
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The international bankers have been far too much under control of the world's events for too long. While their "henchmen" around the world will suffer under scrutiny, they will remain untouched. When the henchmen are lost, they will simply replace those pawns, change the facade of their operations, and continue on as always.



posted on May, 11 2010 @ 07:39 PM
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Well these debts are being transacted digitally so it doesn't matter if they don't actually print physical dollars. It's still the same. Same debt........same indebtedness to private banks.



posted on May, 11 2010 @ 07:43 PM
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And no the US government could never monetize debt by producing a billion dollar bill. The private banks would never go for it. Now if the US government actually created "money" you're right.......they could monetize all debt, create a billion dollar bill and pay it off. Or atleast start buying back our bonds.



posted on May, 11 2010 @ 09:28 PM
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Hi Rock. The Fed just monetized 1.3 trillion in MBS, and about $200 billion in agency debt via the creation of new computer entry "cash", i.e., money that isn't even worth the paper it isn't printed on
and that's just what we know about. They also monetized $300 billion in long dated treasuries via permanent open market operations (POMO).

Money can't be printed...it can only be mined, smelted, and minted.

The Fed "prints" dollars...the goobermn't prints treasuries, which are essentially the same thing since treasuries are basically a "promise to print dollars"



posted on May, 12 2010 @ 06:38 AM
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Ok so we have had the debate on who controls the printing of money in the U.S. and it appears it is down to the Fed.

In Britain it is the Bank Of England that prints the pounds.

Back to the case at hand. This article basically predicts the apocalyse for any country that has to turn to the IMF. Which i was already aware of.

I am very worried about the U.K.. These deficits hawks do my head in warning about the danger it poses. What is of a bigger danger is Cameron and co's plans to cut too big too quickly which instead of reducing the deficit will actually have the opposite result of increasing it due to the massive contraction of the economy as a result of these cuts. Then we would have to go to the IMF.

Is this the plan all along?



posted on May, 12 2010 @ 07:05 AM
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This current situation seems to be a global corporate (governments) meltdown leading to as much bankruptcy, new currency and further concentration of power by the NWO. This is also happening in the uSA witch is now in it's 4th bankruptcy and 2nd for the USA. However, the true government for the uSA is being restored which will end the bankruptcy fraud here. The rest of the world may have a harder time as the uSA constitution was suspended since 1871 not replaced. We are now moving back under the uSA and the constitution and will restore the true 13th Amendment which bars foreign agents (like lawyers / BAR members) from office.



posted on May, 12 2010 @ 09:06 AM
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Originally posted by ReelView
This current situation seems to be a global corporate (governments) meltdown leading to as much bankruptcy, new currency and further concentration of power by the NWO. This is also happening in the uSA witch is now in it's 4th bankruptcy and 2nd for the USA. However, the true government for the uSA is being restored which will end the bankruptcy fraud here. The rest of the world may have a harder time as the uSA constitution was suspended since 1871 not replaced. We are now moving back under the uSA and the constitution and will restore the true 13th Amendment which bars foreign agents (like lawyers / BAR members) from office.


One can hope.



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