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Originally posted by Miracle Man
I agree with him.
Nobody but a soldier on a battlefield needs an automatic weapon. There isn't a justification for having one.
Originally posted by JacKatMtn
Good points being presented
The biggest surprise for me was that it was still legal to own an automatic weapon in MA. They are somewhat restricted in Virginia where I live.
I also doubt that if this law were already in place, that it could have prevented the recent tragedy there.
However, could the Governor, by pointing to this one crime, get the votes he needs to pass this?
Will he get the votes, I am not familiar with the MA legislature, I just hope they don't act like the folks on Capitol Hill who seems to thrive on passing legislation based on emotion, which seems to be the key factor in this latest push for passage.
Originally posted by poedxsoldiervet
reply to post by Miracle Man
Screw that, If you want a machine gun, you should be able to get one. Look its a senseless death. There our gang bangers who are better armed and equiped then most COPS.... I think I will keep my AK-74 and dare you to take it away... I am willing to die for my rights and freedom, I am also willing to take yours if you try to impose your ideas of "freedom" on me.
Originally posted by Tharsis
Originally posted by Miracle ManThere isn't a justification for having one.
Look around your home, brother.
Think of all the things you have that would be taken away if you didn't have a 'justification' for. Carpeting, that 2nd television, track lighting (of course I'm being presumptive, but I'm just trying to get my point across).
Think creature comforts and common conveniences.
Also, remember this "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness". That is my justification for having things.
I like things. I do not need to justify my ownership to anyone.
Originally posted by MarshMallow_Snake
...so why are automatic weapons not?
Originally posted by tauempire
Originally posted by Miracle Man
I agree with him.
Nobody but a soldier on a battlefield needs an automatic weapon. There isn't a justification for having one.
hey dude...you cant have a automatic weapon in the united states. only semi-auto.
Originally posted by poedxsoldiervet
reply to post by mumma in pyjamas
That’s not what I meant, we can have a civil discussion, it will turn ugly if you pass laws limiting my freedom, Just like the Nazis do. And I am glad I live in a country where I can keep my guns, cause really you never know when you will need them.
where does THAT end, what if i want to own my very own nuke? My very own landmine to plant in my very own lawn, ooops sorry Mr mail man, you just got blown up with my landmine, but it's my right to have stuff i want.What if i want to a cats cadaver i just dug out of a garden? I don't need to justify that to ANYONE it's my right, right?
It's a little paranoid to suggest that your TV and carpet would be "taken away" without justification for having them.
HOW many times have the Government, politicians, citizens had a campaign to ban carpet?
They have NEVER.But i DO hear about banning guns again and again...
Originally posted by mumma in pyjamas
Originally posted by poedxsoldiervet
reply to post by mumma in pyjamas
That’s not what I meant, we can have a civil discussion, it will turn ugly if you pass laws limiting my freedom, Just like the Nazis do. And I am glad I live in a country where I can keep my guns, cause really you never know when you will need them.
Have you ever heard of Godwins Rule of Nazi Analogies?
www.wisegeek.com...
It is so funny that just last night i was watching QI and they happened to mention Godwin's rule .........
Originally posted by poedxsoldiervet
reply to post by Miracle Man
Look clown, I wasnt refering to you, I was refering to the no Machine Guns in general.... Do I want to own one, no I think A machine gun is a waste of bullets... One Shot one Kill thats what the army taught us. Not spray and pray.
Originally posted by ventian
If you don't want automatic weapons then surely you must be against all guns in general.