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posted on May, 12 2010 @ 11:23 AM
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If I were looking for someone more government than anyone, I'd look for an Avatar that was anything but that.




posted on May, 12 2010 @ 11:35 AM
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Ahhh,the ultimate in luxury...
My computer,my mug of coffee,my little debbies,ATS
and getting paid as well.A dream come true...
Where can I apply?I will work cheap!
One can of coffee per month and 8 boxes of little debbies.
You CAN'T get help any cheaper than this!



posted on May, 12 2010 @ 11:43 AM
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If anyone is offering payment for posts here, I would just like to say right now I will totally sell out my principles and post for nearly any agenda here (short of racist ones) that any PTB or otherwise wealthy special interests might have. My asking rate is $60,000/year or a reasonable pay/post rate that can support my lifestyle, current need to find a new apartment and allow me enough free time to work on my independent movie (willing to negotiate my rates/compensation).



posted on May, 12 2010 @ 11:52 AM
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If anyone is offering payment for posts here, I would just like to say right now I will totally sell out my principles and post for nearly any agenda here (short of racist ones) that any PTB or otherwise wealthy special interests might have.


Contact Hulu.



Your overlords are waiting.






[edit on 12-5-2010 by Mr Mask]

[edit on 12-5-2010 by Mr Mask]



posted on May, 12 2010 @ 12:05 PM
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Two words come to mind, "Bad apples". I doubt these people you speak of are paid, quite simply they are part of a force called evil who want to prop up the current system because quite simply it is their survival mechanism.

I have noticed a lot of flocking towards threads that skirt the truth but often fall into the grey area of proof. The general attempt seems to be to tear down a thread before it becomes established. Often they do this AS EARLY IN THE THREAD AS POSSIBLE.

Another thing I have noticed is that such folk has few to any flags against their name!!!!



posted on May, 12 2010 @ 12:08 PM
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Forget this member,I work cheaper...
My coffee would be around $6.00 per month
My creamer would be around $2.00 per month
My little debbies(banana moon pies) would be $15.00 per month
Chips, to counter balance sugar rush from little debbies,$12.00
per month.
A grand total of $35.00 per month at 30 hours per week,I would
be paid 29 cents an hour.



posted on May, 12 2010 @ 12:08 PM
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off-topic post removed to prevent thread-drift


 



posted on May, 12 2010 @ 12:17 PM
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Yes, I believe "TPTB" not limited to the CIA, various branch inteligence services like Army's ASA, and elements of the DIA, are augmented by paid posters whose 'job description' is "Public Relations".

A clue... is the use of heavily emotive sentences in the beginning to place the readers into trance. see this interesting posting LINK on another board about mob manipulation techniques...

and I'll cite words of warning from 1955 by Dr Robert Oppenheimer, comparing the techniques of covert psychological manipulation to be of the same DEGREE of potential destruction as The Atomic Bomb. < anyone care to debate Oppenheimer?


"In the last ten years physicists have been extraordinarily noisy about the immense powers, that largely through their efforts, but through other efforts as well have come into the possession of man, powers notably and strikingly for very large scale and dreadful destruction. We have spoken of our responsibilities and our obligations to society in terms that sound very provincial, because the psychologist can hardly do anything without realizing that for him the acquisition of knowledge opens up the most terrifying prospects of controlling what people do and how they feel. This is true for all of you who are engaged in practice, and as the corpus of psychology gains in certitude and subtlety and skill. I can see that the physicists pleas that what he discovers be used with humanity and be used wisely will seem trivial compared to those pleas which you will have to make and for which you will be responsible."


page 214 in The Journal of Atomic Scientists.. physicist Robert Oppenheimer..implying that the nuclear bomb is "trivial" compared to threat of the techniques of covert hypnotic mind control while a guest speaker to the American Psychological Association in 1955

[edit on 12-5-2010 by seataka]



posted on May, 12 2010 @ 12:18 PM
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I know that paid shills for the intel bad guys exist and operate here and on other sites. It only stands to reason:


After all, there are only two categories of ' debunkers'; those that are either uneducated about the facts, or those who are arguing just for arguments sake and do not care about common sense and accuracy.

The other category are those with a definite interest in keeping as many people unaware of the facts or sway them enough by obfuscation and nonsense to keep them on the ropes. How many people could be in category one? Sure, we all have read the vacuous and head shaking posts that try and prop up the oficial lie...and we wonder how in the world otherwise seemingly rational people cannot or will not acknowledge absolute facts and insist on denying logic at every turn.

Those people are not great in number, and they do not debate well. The others, the paid shills, debate VERY well, and seem to concentrate on issues that have some degree of wiggle room, even if only a tad..and ignore totally all the smoking guns. When you corner them and force them to admit a fact that kills their story, they simply resort to name calling or outright denial that facts are indeed facts.

Odd say that there are for SURE paid shills, they are the ones dedicated to keeping the water muddy instead of clear.



posted on May, 12 2010 @ 12:38 PM
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Originally posted by richierich
I know that paid shills for the intel bad guys exist and operate here and on other sites. It only stands to reason:


After all, there are only two categories of ' debunkers'


What happens when your "reason" is based on an incorrect premise that there are only two categories of "debunkers"? I guess that dumps your whole claim down the toilet.

For those that claim unequivocally that people are paid to post certain things on this site.... let's see the indisputable evidence that backs your claim....



posted on May, 12 2010 @ 01:13 PM
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seems like you guys are split on this subject.

I do think some are paid to post here, or are paid to record members comments to keep tabs on them.

either or they are here IMO. Maybe i am wrong, maybe i am right. Who knows?

I do think its possible and likely. No one has been caught yet, and i don't think they would let their secret slip either.

all we can do regarding this subject is to talk about it.

cointelpro is not a secret either. ATS has been getting a lot more popular, and i would not be surprised if there are a few agent members enforcing their paid agenda... but as i said, i could be wrong. I do hope i am wrong.

[edit on 5/12/2010 by ugie1028]



posted on May, 12 2010 @ 01:42 PM
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Originally posted by traditionaldrummer

Originally posted by richierich
I know that paid shills for the intel bad guys exist and operate here and on other sites. It only stands to reason:


After all, there are only two categories of ' debunkers'


What happens when your "reason" is based on an incorrect premise that there are only two categories of "debunkers"? I guess that dumps your whole claim down the toilet.

For those that claim unequivocally that people are paid to post certain things on this site.... let's see the indisputable evidence that backs your claim....






My beliefs are backed by common sense and the odds. OF COURSE it is a matter of opinion, you asking for ' indisputable evidence' is silly. If you can come up with a batter classification system than I have, go for it...but until then I will use mine as it makes sense.

What OTHER kinds of people would continuously try and ' debunk ' obvious and known facts and conclusions ? I have already said that people who refuse to recognize the incredible amounts of evidence that the official story is a sham must have one of two motivations.

What other things would motivate someone to deny reality? Either they have a financial interest in doing so, and these include paid intel shills who represent the upper ranks of the black system and want to stifle as much as possible, or at least confuse,the hard and cold facts that the open eyed people know prove their guilt...

OR they are the kind of people who for God only knows what psychological reasons thrive on being stubborn and contrary, despite the facts. They want adversaries no matter what. Some of them no doubt suffer from ' oppositional defiance disorder' in which a person is compelled to take contrary positions to others no matter the facts.

If YOU can come up with other categories, bring them on!! I would welcome other takes on this and if you can imagine other ways that would account for unreasoned refusal to accept the truth then lets hear it.

If someone is not being paid to defend the indefensible then they must get some type of gratification from it...one has to wonder how deep the well goes with these types and what tickles their toes enough to stubbornly deny hard and cold facts...hmmm.



posted on May, 12 2010 @ 01:48 PM
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If it is possible or feasible then for sure it is happening. Why wouldn't it? You think that the alphabet agencies, government or big business are too overcome with conscience? Surely no one here is that naive.



Being of an essentially sensitive, shy and gentle nature, I have a super big radar built up to detect someone trying to take advantage of said nature and trying to bull# or persuade me to do or believe something I wish not to be involved with. From time to time that radar goes off at full blast here on ATS. There are some who post venomous attacks here with such a galvanized weapon here that there is no doubt that their mission is far bond espousing a mere personal opinion.

I am not talking about the loudmouth who loves to hear him/herself talk or who has a particularly strong opinion. Those are different from what we are talking about here -- the "professionals".



posted on May, 12 2010 @ 02:00 PM
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Originally posted by richierich
What OTHER kinds of people would continuously try and ' debunk ' obvious and known facts and conclusions ? I have already said that people who refuse to recognize the incredible amounts of evidence that the official story is a sham must have one of two motivations.


I can't say as I see people debunking "known facts". Conclusions, definitely. But proven facts cannot be debunked. I will assume that when you say "incredible amounts of evidence that the official story is a sham", you are speaking of 9/11? I don't know, but what I do know is that claiming the "official story is a scam" is much, much different than claiming a conspiracy is true. Since "official stories" usualy come from governments, and governments lie, it's quite an easy assumption to believe an "official story" from the government would certainly be a sham. It does not provide evidence of conspiracy though.


one has to wonder how deep the well goes with these types and what tickles their toes enough to stubbornly deny hard and cold facts...hmmm.


Again, cold and hard facts cannot be debunked and nobody tries. However, a lot of what passes for evidence to conspiracy theorists does not hold up to standards of evidence by those who are NOT conspiracy theorists. A true skeptic enjoys pointing these things out, and in certain topics that rely heavily on poor evidence the action is the hottest, therefore the debunkers are attracted to them. You needn't pay anyone who enjoys debunking to participate in such threads.



posted on May, 12 2010 @ 03:07 PM
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I have been under the impression that this is a fun thread.
Am I wrong,is this topic to be taken seriously?
I do know one thing...I am not being paid to post here,I just
dream about it.

Seriously now,if someone is being paid to post on this board.
I don't think anyone would ever know for sure.They would just
keep bellyaching,writing threads and getting themselves worked
up for nothing.If you have to ask,the answer is NO!

Besides,the only ones who deserve to be paid are the mods.
They all spend endless hours policing this board.They also have
to deal with our kindergarden mentality on a daily basis.That
alone would drive some people to drink.

[edit on 12-5-2010 by mamabeth]



posted on May, 12 2010 @ 03:31 PM
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Yes. 2 of which I know operate in the 911 forum itself. Pretty common in other websites too that deal in specific topic(s).



posted on May, 12 2010 @ 03:46 PM
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2 of which I know operate in the 911 forum itself.


Quite the bold claim, mikelee.

Do ATS T&C rules require you to back up such spectacular claims about active members in good standing?

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Adding, unless it was in jest, as mamabeth mentions:


Originally posted by mamabeth
I have been under the impression that this is a fun thread.
Am I wrong,is this topic to be taken seriously?


No, mamabeth, I believe you are correct. Some see it as a license to take themselves way too seriously, though.

But, have to ask the OP, I suppose....



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posted on May, 13 2010 @ 04:40 PM
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Since its only my opinion, no. And since its the topic of the thread I would think that if ATS had any issues with it or potential answers that may be forthcoming they would have acted by now.
I was betting with another member you'd be the one who rebuts...I'm $10 richer!!


[edit on 5/13/2010 by mikelee]



posted on May, 13 2010 @ 05:39 PM
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that really reminds me i must get rid of the pipe bombs i stocked up on to attack the goverment with. oh and the ricin i cooked up to post out to various agencies.

thanks for the thread i may have ended up in jail otherwise.

suppose the kiddie porn should go too.but i shall keep the grenade's.



posted on May, 13 2010 @ 06:30 PM
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If in the very rare case anybody of any real note actualy looks at these boards, which i doubt very much. But just in case you are reading i will be happy to whore myself for pushing any and all agendas you may have. I will happily accept payment in the following currency dinars, lats or rials failing that, pound sterling will do, OR if you happen to be off oriental persuasion the Yen would be quite nice as a hard currency. But no dollars, absolutley NO dollars i really cant stress that enough.



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