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The Unconscious Mind

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posted on May, 10 2010 @ 09:10 PM
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As we begin our observations of our surrounding we apply the projection of the realities of a certain object upon our mind. We as humans are stimulated by what our sense perceptions contact in the visual world or world of animation. This world stimulates the unconscious mind and the interchangeability of our own physchological process to the thing we observe. The matter that we engage in is reflective of our own perception of self. It is the knowledge we gain through our observation of the material which is applied to our application of self. Self is the constant observation of the certain or that which we know to exist because it is upon our own existence to know consciously we our real. This reality of self which is a self projection of material reality of the object which stimulates our consciousness to engage in our ego. It is the ego upon which the pre conceived assements of our own perceptions are received and then broken down into the potentiality of action. It is the material presence of object which enforces the action or the pre conceived notion of conscious action through a perception of the realistic thingness of object. It is through the ego that the potentiality for action and capabilities are perceived and conceived and the knowledge or conscious effort to put these actions into place is stimulated by our own individualism. Knowing this then our own conscious effort or action of something is merely just a barrier we as humans use to hide our own problems when essentially all of are problems are essentially conceived in our ego through our false perceptions that is to say that it is our conscious efforts which create the reality which allow our egos to thus create the potential to act. This itself is a false trick our conscious plays on our mind thinking we are in control of matter essentially when the only thing we have control over is our individuality. Our own egos and the perceptions which we have upon the material being of a thing is interchangeable and essentially what interlocks our minds into the false illusions that our consciousness controls the material it observes when instead it is essentially the ego and the perception of self upon the object which projects idea and the potentiality for action to exist as what allows us to define ourselves as conscious of our actions.




posted on May, 10 2010 @ 10:38 PM
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Yes, very interesting. Indeed, our mind is a locked chest that can be unlocked using a key. Once you have the key, your mind is free...The only thing left is the choice, will you open your mind to listen and learn or will you use your mind to take advantage on others. Many would choose to take advantage. Hopefully, the fact that your mind is unlocked could mean that you understand that you cannot overestimate your interlocutor and thus will not try to take advantage. It is true, the physical world hides everything.
My terms may not be the right ones but I guess you understand what I mean.



posted on May, 10 2010 @ 10:59 PM
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Originally posted by sheikhylian
Yes, very interesting. Indeed, our mind is a locked chest that can be unlocked using a key. Once you have the key, your mind is free...The only thing left is the choice, will you open your mind to listen and learn or will you use your mind to take advantage on others. Many would choose to take advantage. Hopefully, the fact that your mind is unlocked could mean that you understand that you cannot overestimate your interlocutor and thus will not try to take advantage. It is true, the physical world hides everything.
My terms may not be the right ones but I guess you understand what I mean.

very true we unlock the chest and we know everything about self and risk our own knowledge of things or we can remain in the comfort of our own human distinctions. Merely we are trying to find a higher sense of self a self truer to us. It seems I have in my meditation been able to unlock my mind and it seems that since the consciousness has specific distinctions it makes and wished to know these unlocked ideas and my consciousness fights these ideas essentially these ideas are necessary for me to continue to pursue higher truths beyond self. Essentially I relieve myself in being able to know these things I know consciously I must accept the realities that coincide with them.

[edit on 10-5-2010 by EarthquakeNewMadrid2010]



posted on May, 10 2010 @ 11:38 PM
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posted on May, 11 2010 @ 09:18 AM
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thank you for that thread, i was wondering about something to say where it would fit best, i cannot open thread myself when noone share the intersts i mean thre

first there are few principles sources i want to say as facts introduction

life is the source of particular fact, so each breath each word each fact each thing has its own life, life when it is not acting as a source is simply the base of whatever

this introduce the concept of void how i see and mean its life as its source or base present

but that introduce also another concept i have in mind about the switch point where the base become a source, for what it means positive result as living being the sense of that move to realize fully

so here where i see truth is from, it is really the base of void that moved because it was positive about something on

it is an important principle of facts sources clarifying how you cannot speak about truth and gods as the same thing or one

who mean creations ways cannot be the base of nothing it is total different story one

so that base of void is intelligence base fully, it is the concept of base absolutely so it cant be but intelligence assets of whatever fact is standing upon
but that base according to my conclusions, moved for what it was positive in realizing something else there, the result of that move turn to be not else realisation but the positive fact of itself move being

which is the source of all moves being that truth conclusion saying, the freedom of positive drive wills is life infinity as positive one certainly, without the need to proove it or intelligence weights to hold within

it set the truth of positive living then free out of positive drive, the positive living dont have to be real since it is who knows being positive alone, and since it is in positive mode truth it becomes inherently the intelligence of that positive life that would always be there more of that positive true source fact of positive means

that is why we are all of intelligence as the base of all, when you detach as positive mean you invest the intelligence you are to that point particularity in order to see it existing for your will to be a living free point as positive sense always being you there

now the issue rised from where we dont know what the base was positive about since it means being all itself moves realisations sense, and stating the right for to everyone since it is definite free positive life rights

and that what necessary the image of bigbang say, everyone there aware from base while the base head was moving alone suddenly went out becasue the head said i stop there doing you positive to finish my positive means and giving the sense of moving for your positive free right life if that what you miss there or even want

so what is important to understand, is what truth being absolutely the base void would necessary move for intelligence creations justifications, like maths verifications when it means of course what we said something positive there it is positive to realize and get to know why by getting its freedom from as its life sense always

while even god awareness would not move for intelligence justifications because it is to truth life not his positive life, and that is why god go to lies more using intelligence to justify creations opportunity and not objective facts

so this is the sense of right and wrong base, from where even gods dont justify rights of facts and act wrong in using any justifications for something else
there is a reference for right that we all knwo from what any awareness point is intelligence base sense before being a positive will
what you use maths only to justify what you mean to get from is your business and your freedom right at a certain extend of course, but you cannot deny logics of others facts being existing just to suit yourself means

and also for positive life free sense, you cannot invent another form of it being right when you get that justificaiton from truth freedom realisations as living right to every positive will

you cannot enslave what is living when living is freedom, and you cannot mean to do the livings, when living truth is about doing whatever or not doing alone

it is about the right of positive absolutely, what is positive cannot be faced to criticize or say anything to, it is more so there is nothing to say there about it, what is to say is always what is related to all base, and not to what is more especially when what is more went out clearly of it

but we are not only of that truth we are also of ourselves base that is not truth, and positively it means like faking loving truth moves or being true about it appreciating simply something about truth moves

so all this mascarad repetitions about loving god or loving love or loving concepts should stop, and make anyone speak clearly at himself at least what he is on about exactly



posted on May, 11 2010 @ 10:05 AM
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love is intelligent freedom and not freedom from intelligence

it is a free living so it is necessarly intelligence existing but positive of its own wills so free square which is life, free willing free it is then a definitive positive always free, he is free and recognize other free, so free for sure living

that is why handicapped when they stop being intelligent they are intelligence free lovers, and they look enjoying any sentence or word

but also of course we have existing awareness out of intelligence and its positive considerations, some handicapped are nothing positive but then it is the effect of evil at god soruce life creations, where also criminals became a gene code, that get all the rewards of stars from god hidden ways and life through them



posted on May, 11 2010 @ 10:30 AM
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Originally posted by imans
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love is intelligent freedom and not freedom from intelligence

it is a free living so it is necessarly intelligence existing but positive of its own wills so free square which is life, free willing free it is then a definitive positive always free, he is free and recognize other free, so free for sure living

that is why handicapped when they stop being intelligent they are intelligence free lovers, and they look enjoying any sentence or word

but also of course we have existing awareness out of intelligence and its positive considerations, some handicapped are nothing positive but then it is the effect of evil at god soruce life creations, where also criminals became a gene code, that get all the rewards of stars from god hidden ways and life through them

I agree with you completely. Love does not discriminate against or identify differences and measurements in intellect because it gives all intellect. We can only recognize ourselves as free in space time by being able to conscious break down the perceptions we have of reality. I am though tired of people using the term special for the handicapped because metaphysically each person is special to say they are special is put a distinctive barrier on love and make it something that is expressed through the intellect aka an invasion upon our conscious willingness to love. This is false and it is up to each individual to make his own choice to love that is he must be consciously aware to love the free willing nature of his love. Handicap people can't do this and essentially do not belong in either perception or rationalism given they do not know then they can not love. But they can be loved



posted on May, 11 2010 @ 10:45 AM
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i like the sound of your positive consideration here, i dont know if i got it right but i react to as what i mean whn i hear people giving value to animals they dont have at all or qualities but it doesnt mean that animals are not abused or surely suffering or of course having all the rights of free truth



posted on May, 11 2010 @ 11:30 AM
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i dont mean to be out of topic but those thoughts i have are to everyone meaning truth too

when it is not about our positive life it is about truth life and truth life at least cannot kill you so it is a best reality base dimension to deal with when you cant be free alone in control, than anything else

that is why it is all about free wills for humans life means, there is no free will if your base reality reference is not truth
it can be god creations of course or illusions or evil forces picking you as having no worth objectively but bad luck, that what break my heart in a sense how if you are ugly you become attacked by monsters, instead of expecting any compensation there, it is horrifying truth out of truth
which say how there cant be truth but truth living source

and that is why any certainty fact belong to truth and no god,
the proof is how they act using all kind of means to gain their free sense, it is really revolting and noone seem to care about that

so free will exist in truth dimension means, that god used to say that he wants to be true too, jaleous of that maybe or petrified of monsters he did, you dont know what is in their heads exactly but one thing for sure is that they dont have heads at all and act in throwing dirt everywhere by meaning it as ecstasy, their sense of making anything as superior to what truth say is all their life sources
willing to take advantage from the fact that truth is never one but objectively as truth of all, but truth set how objectively it is freedom of all and anyone, so in a way it showed what kind of one it is

i dont love truth at all for what it never cared for me, but im being honest and objective that anything else is much worse

truth is the best deal out because inn is you alone what you do and realize

so the point of free will in truth, is that you cannot accept to be positive in truth of void it cannot be
but what you must then is realize the positive you are about aware and realize it absolutely so you would be the happiness freedom sense as the living while objectively you can make any reality to with objective void life too
the point is to dissolve what is positive, to contribute for that on yourself side but of course in right ways as meaning truth respect in all terms

void must be there, but it is not the only rule, positive must be respected too since it is above void, but also objective freedom since it is void must be respected so you cannot mean anything to anything else

and you must be there positively otherwise no move or mean is there from you objectively since you are too what objective is in truth

so that is why void would agree if it is about positive truth, but it must be really true then, if it is really positive for you then you can be that positive and objectively you realize absolute equality sense of that positive you are
and when you are conscious about your obligations towards truth first void and towards all the relatives differences positive sense lives objective realsiations, then you can be the free positive life real to yourself as a fact one, and there where the equation of free will make sense of living true

but of course it is all blabla justifications of gods and anything about it is the opposite total reality



posted on May, 11 2010 @ 02:41 PM
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Originally posted by imans
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i like the sound of your positive consideration here, i dont know if i got it right but i react to as what i mean whn i hear people giving value to animals they dont have at all or qualities but it doesnt mean that animals are not abused or surely suffering or of course having all the rights of free truth

The only value that animals have are by nature. They do not have any metaphysical signifigance merely they are domesticated purely through our own conscious ability to love them. It is symbolic of man's central role of nature as a sign of its geist. The geist of nature struggles between care and survival. Care is the essence of knowing a creature exist and being able to extend oneself to support the needs of the thing or person usually as an individual manifestation in humanity and a universal chateristic in plant or animal. Survival is the charateristic of nature itself and it is the antithesis of all care. Though it is fostered by the idea of care to exist. It essentially is the ego taking hold of the individual and driving him due to his own sense perceptions and the neccessities to live or express his being to be in the object of survival aka food. As the object becomes scarce person then merely becomes an objective means of care which means it become a means of survival of the individual will and reason to make sure that the ideals of care are protected within the reasonable individual. This is to say that nature responds to itself through care but it expressed itself through survival of the fittest. Though in humanity this ideal does not take complete hold given that we can recognize care in survival we try to ensure the good of each individual. This can be demonic and morbid if think that care should merely become the only reason for our survival and thus it should destroy every means of survival just so that its own being as care should be protected. This is a false perception and is manifested in those individuals who seek to use their needs as an excuse and justification for society to babysit them. We need not put up with this but rather maintain our individual survival not as the essence of care but as a sign of care predicated our own survival through reason and the will. That is to say we must care for ourselves in so far as it does not negate the care of the other individual and vise versa. This could then be translated into why humans actually have been able to rationalize the ethical nature of mankind. Care is the essence of nature but it is our reason and will to surive which projects us to actually be able to emphasize the potential that care wishes to give to our beings.



posted on May, 11 2010 @ 02:41 PM
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Originally posted by imans
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i like the sound of your positive consideration here, i dont know if i got it right but i react to as what i mean whn i hear people giving value to animals they dont have at all or qualities but it doesnt mean that animals are not abused or surely suffering or of course having all the rights of free truth

The only value that animals have are by nature. They do not have any metaphysical signifigance merely they are domesticated purely through our own conscious ability to love them. It is symbolic of man's central role of nature as a sign of its geist. The geist of nature struggles between care and survival. Care is the essence of knowing a creature exist and being able to extend oneself to support the needs of the thing or person usually as an individual manifestation in humanity and a universal chateristic in plant or animal. Survival is the charateristic of nature itself and it is the antithesis of all care. Though it is fostered by the idea of care to exist. It essentially is the ego taking hold of the individual and driving him due to his own sense perceptions and the neccessities to live or express his being to be in the object of survival aka food. As the object becomes scarce person then merely becomes an objective means of care which means it become a means of survival of the individual will and reason to make sure that the ideals of care are protected within the reasonable individual. This is to say that nature responds to itself through care but it expressed itself through survival of the fittest. Though in humanity this ideal does not take complete hold given that we can recognize care in survival we try to ensure the good of each individual. This can be demonic and morbid if think that care should merely become the only reason for our survival and thus it should destroy every means of survival just so that its own being as care should be protected. This is a false perception and is manifested in those individuals who seek to use their needs as an excuse and justification for society to babysit them. We need not put up with this but rather maintain our individual survival not as the essence of care but as a sign of care predicated our own survival through reason and the will. That is to say we must care for ourselves in so far as it does not negate the care of the other individual and vise versa. This could then be translated into why humans actually have been able to rationalize the ethical nature of mankind. Care is the essence of nature but it is our reason and will to surive which projects us to actually be able to emphasize the potential that care wishes to give to our beings.



posted on May, 11 2010 @ 03:11 PM
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i see your perspective but there is a point that is essential of my perspective one to natural life

cares are false also needs, and here it means all the powers to force those realities, so the abuses on whatever awareness is there

but also it says how true means when they are not objectively true existing as meaning creations life of nothing out there, are means to replace truth, that oness fanciful sense life, as being source of all in certain area reality of what exist, knowing the value of truth so getting it indirectly killed by meaning positive superiority on absolute value objective source

i can guess the sense of excitement about something possible to accomplish, it is done very rushing ways there is no cares there the only target is the end, so anything can be object of faking care for its realisation



posted on May, 11 2010 @ 04:25 PM
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Originally posted by imans
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i see your perspective but there is a point that is essential of my perspective one to natural life

cares are false also needs, and here it means all the powers to force those realities, so the abuses on whatever awareness is there

but also it says how true means when they are not objectively true existing as meaning creations life of nothing out there, are means to replace truth, that oness fanciful sense life, as being source of all in certain area reality of what exist, knowing the value of truth so getting it indirectly killed by meaning positive superiority on absolute value objective source

i can guess the sense of excitement about something possible to accomplish, it is done very rushing ways there is no cares there the only target is the end, so anything can be object of faking care for its realisation

very true especially the last part struck me as being very peculiar that is to say we fake it does essentially exist as a part of our nature. We fake care when we apparently replace desire with need. Appetite can only be satisfied through our own sense perceptions and that there is essentially no purpose to reason because sense perception deconstructs all meaning behind reason because it finds the certain being of happiness in the object of our sense perception. This is to say that care is no longer needed because we have found the source of the necessity for care to exist as a part of the need of the individual. When this occurs we break down the individual reason and the governance of the human mind no longer takes its root in truth the actuality of being with the object of sense perception but rather in our appetite or need which dictates the necessity to care for something. So carrying for body and mind and soul becomes no longer an obligation to merely become but to just sustain to a certain limit the actual sense of being portrayed through their physical limits. This is to say without essentially care reason is not about to exist because it is the idea of care which allows us to essentially come to love it for what it is, the potential possessed by it and the needs of the individual which will help it to express its potential or form it. A person who is disabled cannot express this form of care or potential because essentially the person is only about need. This deconstruction of all intellect is indeed against the very value of the human being itself which can maintain itself through its own faculties and functions which it has been given to care for. That is to even in a metaphysical sense it can be argued that disabled individuals are metaphysical errors which deconstructs the meaning of individual and knowledge when indeed this can't be true because the essential being of this is not based on the the knowledge of the measurements of reason but rather through a unification of knowledge in the object of human which is the body and the unification of the reason with the idea of care or the soul of a being. This is to say we all have free wills but some have free will or are able to exercise there being of humanity and the self knowledge of it as is by being able to reason with the object that we perceive not as merely an object of our necessity but rather as a means for our reason to care for an give necessity a reason for existing or an actual objective for being. If any individual is not releasing the metaphysical potential of being he cannot be free to be human and thus cannot experience humanity nor reason which is indeed an a function which is necessitated to keep the happiness and pleasure of our sense perceptions as being certain in the object but that we must possessing the ability to reason as part of our being be able to freely engage in these object of self perception which will allow us to fully engage in the care, happiness, and pleasure which necessity of food and other material gives to us. Reason is the essential identification of the actuality of being being an authentic reality which means we can know it actually gives us pleasure and happiness. But it is not upon reason that this certainty can be made it can only be recognized fully through the individual through free will which essentially is only possible if the individual exercises his reason which releases the potential to truly know happiness and then make the choice to either be fake or authentic.



posted on May, 11 2010 @ 05:04 PM
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true i like your living mind, but only one point i disagree there with you, you mix freedom with care in nature condition, and i see it differently

since in nature it is all of lies life and in truth it is all about being free source to yourself positive means alone
so the way is the free living not being living

free living that mean two axes of one absolute real way

freedom sense being alive
and living sense being free

freedom sense being alive, is all what people should exercise to appear to themselvs as sources always as free identity moves, by detecting the living sense objective ground meaning its true positive free reality and freely consider it of any expression you can do of yourself there
it is up to you to consider what is living true objectively but it has to be existing the least supported to live, so you stay free it is not up to you nor you are its soruce just free consideration on what is positively living that you judge as being true

living sense being free, is what you are positive about to realize absolutely or loving to be real through, project it objectively, use the livings to say how they are related to you as a living and proove then objectively the arguments of yourself being positive in truth, how it is logical to be positive in that condition to that thing, be the free will that clarify positive means being true moves, try there to invent what to do for an objective issue of your positive sense and try to raelize it that freedom there in responding to yourself as its source of life

so here the free true is the source of living self
but also from freedom live, we have the self condition life taking the free move to justify being a reality living of truth life



posted on May, 11 2010 @ 05:13 PM
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so for truth freedom is life and life is freedom, absolute perfect true equation

you are relatively true in truth when you realize that base to yourself existence, and there where the serious business start, you invent of that result any form of living free you want to be \
the idea is just respect truth first as yourself base



posted on May, 12 2010 @ 10:33 AM
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Originally posted by imans
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so for truth freedom is life and life is freedom, absolute perfect true equation

you are relatively true in truth when you realize that base to yourself existence, and there where the serious business start, you invent of that result any form of living free you want to be \
the idea is just respect truth first as yourself base

I agree without freedom we could not make a conscious decision that is authentic with the truth. It is a necessary part of our being to be able to know in order to actually authentically be who we are and thus reach the true freedom of truth which is as you said to make it an absolute perfect true equation of self.



posted on May, 12 2010 @ 11:11 AM
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you are amazing waoo you tell me what i mean in a way i dont see it that much, it means you are more then me somewhere, why it is only who must suffer lol



posted on May, 12 2010 @ 01:17 PM
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Originally posted by imans
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you are amazing waoo you tell me what i mean in a way i dont see it that much, it means you are more then me somewhere, why it is only who must suffer lol

yes you can only see it in so far as it can be rationalized for it to authentically be you as an individual place it is then irrational based on this conclusion for truth to exist because it is fixated on the individual who is able to not just make his authentic engagement with being more than a rational or individual way of being but as a more of a distinctive way to come to a free engagement in not the rationalization of self but to engage the self projected by individual. We can only rationalize as humans to a certain point of the truth which frees us it is then necessary to say that it is something that cannot be contained as a part of us but merely as a concept which allows us to be who we are. We cannot fit these principle ideas within our head or it will become a natural fallacy as Heidegger notes if we try to rationalize the source of truth and reason and the freedom that reason gives us to be true and the truth potentiality of being to for reason to be true to itself the equation of equality cannot be anything more than something that is an idea that the individual itself cannot wrap its reason around or be free to choose to rationalize the source of the the being that negates freedom and truth as merely nothing other than relating to itself this is to say freedom and truth are seperate yet they are connected in the fact that they each hold their own identities as a reality or part of that truth. It is only something that we experience in space and time through spacial and bodily forms. Essentially though we cannot apply the being essentially of the complex construct of the developments which seperate truth and reason unite them upon their own as mutual to each other and then subsequently remove themselves from each other to give way to the concept of both as the everything of our reason which cannot exist in our reason only in so far as the truth exist and the truth cannot be authentic without the reason to be free to care for it which takes the necessity of being to have its potential as the linear truths become a matter of choice it can only be perceived by us to exist as a movement that constantly in relation to our own individual being when instead this semiotic movement exist as a being that can neither be applied to reason yet being true which is in itself irrational so this being does not exist within our reason. If this is the case then this being cannot exist in the reality of truth because we must have the reason to be true to the truth and our reason in choosing it. This being said this being is only responsible for it in representing itself as the being of reason and truth itself though seperate from identifying itself as a anything more than a being upon which all the human ideals of reason and truth exist or cease to exist. The end all of everything.



posted on May, 12 2010 @ 02:04 PM
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exactly, that is what i meant, i am out of what i say and you are free too that is why you can say the truth, which proove a perspective i held about truth being the way because always behind us so we can be ahead to ourselves,

but also regarding what you said, the result as objective positive absolute reality truth is not due to any will or intelligence ways,
when void is free one life, it means that any true move or mean is nothing to another living one, so that is why we get nothing ordered in perfect ways alone to become also positive only one objectively free and living unknown

but then forces are all making illusions of beings and realities existence, and that evil possibility is of certain love to hate truth living, from what there is no concern about truth other then it, until there would be love to love truth that logically would win over those realities of truth knowledge as pretense of being one infinitly living



posted on May, 12 2010 @ 02:08 PM
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Originally posted by imans
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exactly, that is what i meant, i am out of what i say and you are free too that is why you can say the truth, which proove a perspective i held about truth being the way because always behind us so we can be ahead to ourselves,

but also regarding what you said, the result as objective positive absolute reality truth is not due to any will or intelligence ways,
when void is free one life, it means that any true move or mean is nothing to another living one, so that is why we get nothing ordered in perfect ways alone to become also positive only one objectively free and living unknown

but then forces are all making illusions of beings and realities existence, and that evil possibility is of certain love to hate truth living, from what there is no concern about truth other then it, until there would be love to love truth that logically would win over those realities of truth knowledge as pretense of being one infinitly living



Very interesting where have you gotten all your ideas I look up to people like you because I am only 19 and I need a lot of guidance.




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