Modern Woman

Originally posted by The Quiet Storm

Originally posted by riley

In a sense it really is the responsibility of the society to keep the peace as a whole for the individuals. Isn't this what government and socioeconomic system is supposed to do? Keep the balance? Make justice?

But what women do literally kill innocent men off.

Back that up or don't say it. I haven't killed any men and just becase I am attractive doesn't mean I should feel responsible for their own self distruction.

Well, you're never going to see my point regardless of what I say.

You've been saying the same things for months now and I've been giving the same responses. Why would I change it?

It is like genocide. It's called sexual selection. There's intrasexual selection and intersexual selection. Even social darwinism.

What women say or do goes, no matter what they say.

"They" are not all the same so please stop making generalisations about us.

Women were worshipped in the ancient days you know? And feared.

And god got changed into a man, got woshipped and feared and anyone who worshipped those ancient goddesses were burnt alive. Whats your point?

Originally posted by riley

Originally posted by The Quiet Storm
reply to post by riley

 

haha. I'm not saying you go and putout for men you don't like.

Actually reading your posts thats exactly what you have been suggesting women do.

besides... men usually put out for women regardless of who she is way more than a woman puts out for a decent man.

As I said before men can have an unlimited amount of offspring biologically so they can afford to be less discriminatory when it comes to sex. Some men would be very choosy.

It's not a matter of going to the gym, seeing a prostitute, or any of that. That's doesn't solve anything.

For some men it does.. then again most men are not at the mercy of their erections.

Women's nature should be held accountable for making a man horny, as well as a man's nature.

You condone sexual coersion.

If a man tried to make me accountable for his being horny and I am unwilling he would get a very violent response. "Oh no how unfair" but that is my "nature".

Again it's not about even gratification. It's about biological necessity, and even sanity, and health.

Why should women be held responsible for that? Women have periods to prepare for possible fertilization by a man but I do not expect all mankind to pay for my tampons while saying "but my biology is unfair!".

Manup and own your own life.

Pornography condones sexual coercion, but a lot of people watch it, and are influenced by it.

I don't really, but a lot of people actually do some form of coercion even though they don't realize.

Me, I wold pretty much kill myself, if I don't get what I need biologically. It doesn't even have to done consciously, it already happens biologically, sexually, socially, economically and naturally. That's enough to make me go a little cuckoo. I don't mean it. But such things shouldn't and wouldn't be happening it people really knew what was going on and what would occur, and took the steps to stop it.

Hey I'm being honest.

And to State of Mind.. what if even those other girls wouldn't like you?

I guess I'm just not as aggressive as I should be?

I don't go to clubs, or bars looking for potential mates. I dont know how strangers can just dry hump each other or have foreplay like that. I hardly even take action to do that for any girl I don't know. That's being too forward for me and putting them on the spot, but hey many "tough guys" do it, even dress it up with pretty words and stuff, and touch a girl to make her feel closer, and a lot of women like that and prefer it too. I just couldn't I was taught differently. I can't take the direct approach like that.. and in fact when I was growing up that was considered perverted or immoral, bad or wrong (except if you were a tough guy/badboy it's ok).

Geez...

Maybe it's just because I'm different, cuz it's hard for me to make friends at all anyways. But some think men and women don't usually become friends for just being friends.

Again maybe I'm just different.

*sigh*

My loneliness will continue on the rest of my perhaps short lived life, and I'll probably take my own life too. And I won't do like other guys have done and hurt women in the process because I'm not like that.

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[edit on 9-6-2010 by The Quiet Storm]

Originally posted by The Quiet Storm
Pornography condones sexual coercion, but a lot of people watch it, and are influenced by it.

I don't really, but a lot of people actually do some form of coercion even though they don't realize.

The average woman is NOT a porn star and whatever happens in a porn vid is acting so that has no bearing on reality either.

Me, I wold pretty much kill myself, if I don't get what I need biologically. It doesn't even have to done consciously, it already happens biologically, sexually, socially, economically and naturally. That's enough to make me go a little cuckoo. I don't mean it. But such things shouldn't and wouldn't be happening it people really knew what was going on and what would occur, and took the steps to stop it.

Hey I'm being honest.

If that is the case seek professional help. Blaming an entire gender for your emotional problems wil not solve those emotional problems.

And to State of Mind.. what if even those other girls wouldn't like you?

I guess I'm just not as aggressive as I should be?

What do you mean aggressive? Seducing women has to do with confidence and assertiveness not aggression. Abusing women requires aggression.

I don't go to clubs, or bars looking for potential mates. I dont know how strangers can just dry hump each other or have foreplay like that. I hardly even take action to do that for any girl I don't know.

It sounds like you have a social phobia/disorder.. or possibly ASD that you need to deal with. Blaming women for this will not fix the problem and will only prevent you addressing the issue.

That's being too forward for me and putting them on the spot, but hey many "tough guys" do it, even dress it up with pretty words and stuff, and touch a girl to make her feel closer, and a lot of women like that and prefer it too. I just couldn't I was taught differently. I can't take the direct approach like that.. and in fact when I was growing up that was considered perverted or immoral, bad or wrong (except if you were a tough guy/badboy it's ok).

Geez...

It might be okay to touch a woman if she is receptive to it and only after it has been made clear that it's a mutual expression of affection. It is considered perverted when she does not want it.

Maybe it's just because I'm different, cuz it's hard for me to make friends at all anyways. But some think men and women don't usually become friends for just being friends.

Again maybe I'm just different.

*sigh*

My loneliness will continue on the rest of my perhaps short lived life, and I'll probably take my own life too. And I won't do like other guys have done and hurt women in the process because I'm not like that.

Please do not threaten suicide it comes across as manipulative.

heh. I tried to get some girls number the other day. It was the most embarrassing thing I experienced. I see her all the time at the store she works at because I go there all the time. I never really asked for her number nor could I overtly express interest. I could never get how men could just overtly express sexual interest... even if it is hidden. It is assumed that women also want you to be a little manly and express it but at the same time they don't want us to. It's weird. Usually if you do it means you're not too serious, and you're perfect, because they don't want to be serious either.

Well..let's just say it felt like everyone was watching me... and could tell that I wanted her (in that way). That's just crazy. I dont know how other men can do it with such indifference and no remorse, and make it even seem "normal".

Anyways.. she turned me down, because supposedly (supposedly) she has a boyfriend and she would (yea right) but her boyfriend gets crazy jealous. I really wonder if it was just the way I approached, or just that it was me. She may even give it out to other men but just not to me right? Anyways... it made me feel like I just did something immoral. But guys do this all the time. They are even tons more forward and sexually deviant than I am, and they get it all, and they do it all without remorse or anyone giving them weird looks. Even to be suave or "romantic" or "sexy" or even smooth.. it looks creepy, and too much for me. And women will always make you feel worse about it, depending on how confident you appear or not, as if the only thing they cared about is how confident you appear, regardless of true character.

am I just deranged or do other men share the same thoughts as I do? I know I'm not just crazy.

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Originally posted by FeatheredSerpent

Originally posted by nh_ee


On the other hand, women in ancient times were married off as soon as they began menstruating regardless of age.

I think women today deserve more,im talking about the future not the past my friend.



Regards to all

blame the parents, i do. i don't have my daughter out on streets drinking and getting up to no good.

I see the problem as this:

The people who manipulate this world are uncaring robots.

And mankind is too stupid to see that technology is killing us.

So, every time technology advances we say yes and what we are doing is killing our civilisation.

We dress our little girls as sex on legs.

Our kids use their phones to talk to each other and to bully each other.

These kids don't relate to anyone - they relate to the latest technology.

And parents have lost control.

These children will not be able to relate in human terms.

Originally posted by The Quiet Storm
heh. I tried to get some girls number the other day. It was the most embarrassing thing I experienced. I see her all the time at the store she works at because I go there all the time. I never really asked for her number nor could I overtly express interest. I could never get how men could just overtly express sexual interest... even if it is hidden. It is assumed that women also want you to be a little manly and express it but at the same time they don't want us to. It's weird. Usually if you do it means you're not too serious, and you're perfect, because they don't want to be serious either.

Well..let's just say it felt like everyone was watching me... and could tell that I wanted her (in that way). That's just crazy. I dont know how other men can do it with such indifference and no remorse, and make it even seem "normal".

Anyways.. she turned me down, because supposedly (supposedly) she has a boyfriend and she would (yea right) but her boyfriend gets crazy jealous. I really wonder if it was just the way I approached, or just that it was me. She may even give it out to other men but just not to me right? Anyways... it made me feel like I just did something immoral. But guys do this all the time. They are even tons more forward and sexually deviant than I am, and they get it all, and they do it all without remorse or anyone giving them weird looks. Even to be suave or "romantic" or "sexy" or even smooth.. it looks creepy, and too much for me. And women will always make you feel worse about it, depending on how confident you appear or not, as if the only thing they cared about is how confident you appear, regardless of true character.

am I just deranged or do other men share the same thoughts as I do? I know I'm not just crazy.

[edit on 9-6-2010 by The Quiet Storm]

the thing about them wanting you to but not wanting you to and all that... what they really need for you to do is pay attention to what is going on with them at the moment rather than sticking to any one process.

another thing... maybe she was giving you a line but if you like her, shouldn't you give her some credit and think that she does in fact have a boyfriend... and maybe what she was inferring is that she likes talking to you or whatever but she has to be appropriate about it because of her situation.

now if she lead you on with signals, you need to keep an eye open because you know there are types that like to have back ups but i think more often than not, most woman like to know that a guy can be a friend and not get all flippy and TRULY value that (although it's always considered demeaning by the man it seems who has the want) and I think really, people are really just in their circumstances in life and often just cannot help that.

... and you want things... and although other threads around here may challenge this notion, but I say you cannot help that.