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Originally posted by MRuss
I don't see how you can believe in the supernatural and not believe in God.
I guess it depends on what you define as "God." I see God as being "ALL" and not some guy with a beard in heaven deciding who gets chocoale ice cream for dessert. God is everything. There is nothing that God isn't.
If you admit that supernatural events are part of our reality, then you are admitting that our reality is more than what it is generally accepted by science----and is "beyond natural."
If you admit that something "beyond-natural" can exist, then you are saying that there is a possibility that something exists beyond our collective knowing. If God is everything (and I hate using the term "God" because it carries with it too many icons and symbolism), then God is part of what you deem "beyond natural."
God or "All" may exist whether or not you believe in it. Your belief does not change it or negate it, it just changes you. If I am hiding a marble in my pocket, just because you don't know it's there---doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
If you wanted irrefutable proof of an "All's" existence, how would you demand that it show up? There are no irrefutable ways because there is no such thing as objectivity; that is, complete objectivity. Once again, everything that's experienced is experienced by you, and you may experience it any way you wish because it is experienced through the filter that is you. You may experience it differently from the way I'm experiencing it, therefore, everything I say is refutable by someone else.
What if God chose a human icon to present himself as, landed on the White House lawn in a chariot and said, "I am God!" The Muslims would say, "That is not God! He doesn't look Muslim!" The Catholics would say, "That is not God! He doesn't look like Jesus!" The Government would lock him up and through away the key. Everyone would argue over whether or not that was God. How could God best present himself? In a way that EVERYBODY would believe? Obviously, there is no perfect way.
God is not a person. He is just "All." The energy and the force behind life. Look at your life as a snow globe. We are living here within a snow globe and reality (the "All") is everything outside of that, never ending, and always.
I saw a ghost once when I was 19 years old. Scared the he** out of me. Just because YOU didn't see it doesn't mean it didn't happen, and doesn't mean that ghosts don't exist.
Originally posted by SentientBeyondDesign
No offense, but atheism isn't scientifically credible. Science has done nothing to disprove the existence of God
I think letting go of our belief systems will be necessary in the future if we want to avoid self-destruction as a race.