Originally posted by TarzanBeta
reply to post by CHA0S
Incorrect. The electron is existing in a wave-state before we pin it down under observation.
Originally posted by kiv-93
" The scientists had collapsed the wave function of the electrons, simply by observing them. "
To me this make sense as the human eye sends out electromagnetic energy which would interfere with the wave function of a particle doesn't seem too complicated and im sure someone with a decent physics background would able to word this much better than i can its just something to get others thinking.
Originally posted by careface
An interesting thought about the role of the "observer" in Quantum Mechanics:
Observation is relative. Are you observing a process and affecting it or is the
process observing and affecting you? Is your observation of the process just an effect of the process?
Originally posted by CHA0S
...I wanted to emphasize the mysterious aspects of quantum physics...and connect those aspects with consciousness and the observer and really emphasize that magical aspect of quantum mechanics where we can each create our own reality....
Yes, thank you for little explanation, I meant to discuss the quanta when I was talking about the photon, but it slipped my mind. I think they discuss it in that video series I linked on the first page anyway.
I think he already did in the OP. The existence of quanta or quantized amounts of energy is the basis for quantum mechanics. We know that the electron only increases or decreases it's state of quantized energy by absorbing or releasing these energy packets and this behavior can be explained with the electron existing in a wave-state.
Yes there is, Quantum Mechanics explains with better clarity the structure of reality and deep connection we each have with each other and the universe as a whole. That is something magical to me, and I don't use the word magical in a way which implies it defies logic and understanding. I don't believe anything defies logic and understanding, we just haven't figured out exactly how it works yet.
THERE is NO magical ASPECT of QUANTUM mechanics. NONE.
You may not reply to this, since it's been a few days since I checked this thread. But how can you deny that there must be a direct connection between the observer and the observed. One explanation I heard, involved photons or something coming from the observer. I really just didn't get it at all. Your eyes don't shoot photons, and even if they did photons are whizzing around everywhere all the time...your eyes/camera's detect photons which have bounced off other objects...and when the scientists put the camera next to the slit, they weren't even directly observing the particles.
There is no proof that these particle-waves do not collapse by some other method other than observation.
But as I said, photons are bouncing around everywhere all the time...and putting a camera or any other type of detector next to the slit doesn't somehow turn the particle being observed into a photon magnet does it? You can collapse the wave-function without exposing a particle to any more photons than it would normally be exposed to. That explanation is absolute crap.
to "see" the electrons you have to shine light on them, or, fire photons at them. it´s not the very act of observing that change the result so much as the impact of the photons on the electrons
Yes. Instant communication. The scientific implications are great. A lot of technology which utilizes this phenomenon is already being developed and some is in use.
Take two entangled pairs, have one on earth the other on mars and use morse code. Voila, instant communication ... ???
The Einstein-Podolsky-Rosen paradox shows in any case that there exist experiments by which one can measure the state of one particle and instantaneously change the state of its entangled partner, although the two particles can be an arbitrary distance apart; however, this effect does not violate causality, since no transfer of information happens.
Yes, the speed of light.
What would that be? Are you referring to "c"?
Where did you hear that? Einsteins theory of special relativity basically made it crystal clear.
BTW: Einstein never said that there is a universal speed limit. FTL travel is absolutely possible if the object always stays above FTL speed. --->Tachyons.
Special relativity reveals that c is not just the velocity of a certain phenomenon—namely the propagation of electromagnetic radiation (light)—but rather a fundamental feature of the way space and time are unified as spacetime. One of the consequences of the theory is that it is impossible for any particle that has rest mass to be accelerated to the speed of light.
Yes, a lot of scientists believe quantum entanglement can't be used for information transfer, but it can be used in things like cryptography.
I've just learned that we can only observe spin, but we're not able to change it. That would explain why the "entanglement morse code" wouldn't work ... I think ... LOL.