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posted on May, 12 2010 @ 03:03 AM
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Originally posted by dfhan
Solemnly, freely, and without mental reservation, I hereby renounce under oath all allegiance to any foreign state. My fidelity and allegiance from this day forward is to the United States of America. I pledge to support, honor, and be loyal to the United States, its Constitution, and its laws. Where and if lawfully required, I further commit myself to defend the Constitution and laws of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic, either by military, noncombatant, or civilian service. This I do solemnly swear, so help me God.


So, wouldn't flying a Mexican flag be showing allegiance to a foreign state?


Stop being so ignorant. Yes, ignorant.
When did YOU take that oath? That's for immigrants, not national born citizens.

I was born here. I'm white. Do you know what oaths I took?

NONE. ZERO. NOT A ONE.

And people wonder why...[fill in the bank]




posted on May, 12 2010 @ 04:12 AM
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Originally posted by ker2010
reply to post by damwel
 


Maybe when we are allowed to go to mexico and wave the american flag and step on the mexican flag.


The bit about going to other countries and waving your flag whilst pissing on the local population...

Isn't that what Americans do in several other countries right now?

Meanwhile you support Israel for going to other countries and wave their flags while pissing on the local population.



posted on May, 12 2010 @ 04:26 AM
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Originally posted by ker2010
Name one empire that hasnt conquered other people or country to acquire land.

Ill be waiting


Morocco! Is your wait over now?

2nd line (actually, this would be the 3rd line)

[edit on 12-5-2010 by Fangula]



posted on May, 12 2010 @ 04:40 AM
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you people are all making a big deal out of nothing! here youre blaming all your problems in your 'country' on a single race just like hitler did. here youre taking out all your frustration on a race that does jobs that no other race on the planet will do! california solely depends on irrigation and farming, if we didnt have farming then what the hell would we do? if these farmers werent here to do all this 'illegal' work, then who the hell will? black people? nope, white people? hell no! we dont want those poor blacks to think slavery is legal again do we?

when it comes down to it, youre doing exactly what TPTB want you to do. thats incite racial wars so they can induce martial law or whatever agenda they have. maybe lose all sovereignty of america and mexico by opening the border completely? maybe introducing the amero and creating the north american union? you guys have a million other problems that threaten all your races as a whole from a tyrranical government yet youd rather take out all your frustration out on each other.. wow

you guys whine and moan about a stupid flag, that represents bloodshed thats been spilled over the decades of innocent people from wars that never had the right to be started in the first place. good for you.. are you proud of vietnam? are you proud of whats happened in iraq? all your dumbed down americans who voted for bush and cheneys evil agenda which turned up absolutely no wmd's or osama bin laden...

what makes you think the best way of spreading peace and unity is by hanging a speciffic symbol at the the top of a pole? especially one that represents yourself? how arrogantly selfish is that? instead of looking and pointing fingers at people who have nothing to do with whats going on in this psychotic blood thirsty government, look into yourself and ask yourself how youve contributed to it all.


[edit on 12-5-2010 by Cobra.EXE]



posted on May, 12 2010 @ 04:57 AM
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reply to post by Fangula
 


Bad example.Western sahara anyone? How about Iceland? They don't have even own defence forces, if I remeber correctly.

Next time please verify your facts or note that you might be mistaken.

Unless that was really poor joke...


[edit on 12-5-2010 by SpeDeZo]



posted on May, 12 2010 @ 05:12 AM
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reply to post by Cobra.EXE
 


Well spoken. Applause.

Second line



posted on May, 12 2010 @ 05:15 AM
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reply to post by SpeDeZo
 

Yes, they do. Like Costa Rica, the Vatican, etc they just pretend that they don't have a military.

Iceland has a "Coast Guard" (really a navy) and a "Crisis Response Unit" (really an army).

The Costa Rican Public Force is an army in all but name.



posted on May, 12 2010 @ 07:42 AM
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Originally posted by Cobra.EXE
you people are all making a big deal out of nothing! here youre blaming all your problems in your 'country' on a single race just like hitler did. here youre taking out all your frustration on a race that does jobs that no other race on the planet will do! california solely depends on irrigation and farming, if we didnt have farming then what the hell would we do? if these farmers werent here to do all this 'illegal' work, then who the hell will? black people? nope, white people? hell no! we dont want those poor blacks to think slavery is legal again do we?

when it comes down to it, youre doing exactly what TPTB want you to do. thats incite racial wars so they can induce martial law or whatever agenda they have. maybe lose all sovereignty of america and mexico by opening the border completely? maybe introducing the amero and creating the north american union? you guys have a million other problems that threaten all your races as a whole from a tyrranical government yet youd rather take out all your frustration out on each other.. wow

you guys whine and moan about a stupid flag, that represents bloodshed thats been spilled over the decades of innocent people from wars that never had the right to be started in the first place. good for you.. are you proud of vietnam? are you proud of whats happened in iraq? all your dumbed down americans who voted for bush and cheneys evil agenda which turned up absolutely no wmd's or osama bin laden...

what makes you think the best way of spreading peace and unity is by hanging a speciffic symbol at the the top of a pole? especially one that represents yourself? how arrogantly selfish is that? instead of looking and pointing fingers at people who have nothing to do with whats going on in this psychotic blood thirsty government, look into yourself and ask yourself how youve contributed to it all.


[edit on 12-5-2010 by Cobra.EXE]


Incite racial wars? whens the last time you seen white people hit the streets picketing and bringing up race? Whens the last time you seen a video of white people in mexico waving american flags over mexican flags and disrespecting mexico?

You know its funny mexicans are the ONLY immigrants protesting. Why is that? Why do we not see any other race protesting the Arizona law? Maybe its because mexicans have the MOST illegals in the country!!!

TPTB love people like you who do not want the border to be controlled. They love the pussified sleeping american who does not care how many people come over illegally and gets free benefits. They love you people who put your head in the sand. They love the money hungry corporations who dont have to pay americans a fair wage because of the illegals. It puts more money in their pockets. Do you know how many people will be in America by 2050 if this problem isnt fixed? If you think traffic is bad now wait then. If you think unemployment is bad now wait then. If you think gang violence is bad now wait then.

Their are a lot of black and whites too that would do these jobs if the pay was fair!! Look at the unemployment numbers.

Look at California its the worst off state, its basically bankrupt. Wonder why?

Wait till the day Al qaeda or some radical muslim group sneaks a suitcase nuke across the mexican border and uses it.

Then people like you will scream to the top of your lungs. WHY did you not secure the borders!!!!???

Nobody blames one race for all of a countrys problems. But illegal immigrants are part of it.

They are a factor!!!!! Is the government a problem? hell yeah!! But in order to fix the country we must focus on ALL problems.

Look at the polls 70% of Arizonians support the law, Like 60% of Americans do.










[edit on 12-5-2010 by ker2010]



posted on May, 12 2010 @ 08:48 AM
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Originally posted by ker2010
Incite racial wars? whens the last time you seen white people hit the streets picketing and bringing up race?


Hi lets clear a few things up again. This is absolutely NOTHING like the equivalent of a "white" American going to Mexico and knocking down a flag.

These were both AMERICANS. One American used the flag as a scapegoat to infer that because of the others skin color, they were not American.

So Jesus Christ. Get off of it man, you aren't helping your arguments or position at all by reiterating the same crap over and over, after people keep correcting you in regards to this.

Now to your actual opening question.

Just a few weeks ago. Because I live in Arizona. The NSM hold protests all the time spouting racial hatred and "white power" like every other neo-nazi retard wannabe Aryan.



posted on May, 12 2010 @ 09:13 AM
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Originally posted by mryanbrown
Now to your actual opening question.

Just a few weeks ago. Because I live in Arizona. The NSM hold protests all the time spouting racial hatred and "white power" like every other neo-nazi retard wannabe Aryan.


Can you please explain why any time a group of predominantly white people form a protest it is considered racist, but any time a group of predominantly non-white people form a protest it is just showing pride for "their" people?

Notice the Double Standards?

[edit on 12/5/2010 by Dark Ghost]



posted on May, 12 2010 @ 09:16 AM
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Man all you americans can never have any moral right to make a law against any immigrant, your all immigrants.

Do you americans really care that much about that flag anyway, your blood is mostly from europe, and its only a few percent of you are really americans.



posted on May, 12 2010 @ 09:19 AM
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No truer words on here. I guess the double standard is still alive and well here in the U.S. as it always will be. However, you do realize by pointing out this obvious fact, you have opened yourself up to being labeled things you are not, just using the facts of your statement?



posted on May, 12 2010 @ 09:28 AM
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You are correct I would not go to an extreme about it. Although it would be upsetting to me. The only thing I may do is have a conversation about the flying of the flags.



posted on May, 12 2010 @ 09:31 AM
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Originally posted by Dark Ghost

Originally posted by mryanbrown
Now to your actual opening question.

Just a few weeks ago. Because I live in Arizona. The NSM hold protests all the time spouting racial hatred and "white power" like every other neo-nazi retard wannabe Aryan.


Can you please explain why any time a group of predominantly white people form a protest it is considered racist, but any time a group of predominantly non-white people form a protest it is just showing pride for "their" people?

Notice the Double Standards?

[edit on 12/5/2010 by Dark Ghost]


Because the group gets their faces int he faces of non white people and yell "WHITE POWER" while holding up a swazi flag or NSM flag. And then follow up with, "go back to your country we don't want your kind here" to legal, national born citizens.

Silly little reasons like that.

And then there's the inescapable fact that the NSM and neo-nazis are celebrating their white heritage through representations of a society that committed wide-scale genocide?

So I really don't see how it's a double standard. They aren't celebrating their white American heritage. They aren't celebrating their white foreign ancestry. They are celebrating a mentality that white blood is pure, and all other races are inferior.

I can't believe you even asked the question. Any 5th grader could point this out in spades to you and tear down you counter-argument in support of wannabe Aryan nazism.



posted on May, 12 2010 @ 09:36 AM
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Wow, thank you for that......epic fail, dude. You honestly think that? I guess the illegal rights protests are are love light and happiness then huh? Another apologist with an agenda, no surprise there, lots of them on the boards now days.



posted on May, 12 2010 @ 09:56 AM
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Apologist?

He asked why people have an issue with racist neo-nazis "celebrating their 'whiteness'". And how it's a double standard.

These people advocate socialism. Not American in any way. According the majority logic of the thread. They should leave America.

This is exactly what it's like in Arizona right now. And all of you racist bigots outside of Arizona, California, and Texas can't even really begin to grasp the situation. The mentality of this board, and the overall ignorance if the issue, and denying it's racially motivated is ridiculous.

Just watch... You tell me whose in the right. Which of these people are TRUE Americans?

Yes even whites can hold protest that are un-American. And do, regularly.

THIS FIRST VIDEO IS A MUST WATCH.






@ 0:40 An actually interesting conversation takes place between two opposing protesters. Both Americans, with differing viewpoints. TALKING.

I also don't see any protesters against the Aryans knocking down their flags. IN FACT I see them holding up their own AMERICAN FLAGS. And for some reason someone has a sign saying "Go home".. This is their home.

This is the reality of it. The so called "whites" aren't holding celebrations. They're holding white supremacy marches. Don't try to pretend it's anything but.

Disgusting mentality.

To be fair... this video os uploaded BY the NSM...



Socialists insulting Communists... ignorant...

Calling rock music "patriotic", ignorant.

The NSM also identify all vulgarity as being perpetrated by those protesting them... Even though you can clearly identify them in the FULL march videos starting the insults, and they were the ones swearing and saying "bring it on" and things like that.

Are you an American? EFF SOCIALISM...

Minutemen TERRORIST kill a 9 year old girl and her father
(The same kind of "white" people at these protests)


You think that's what we need? Tell that to that little girls mother.

You think I'm un-American? not patriotic? I'm a decent human being, which is more than can be said for most in support of this mentality.

Find me a video where whites come together in celebration of their heritage, and their pride in America WHERE THEY DO NOT INSULT NON WHITES. And I'll proudly say that's awesome, and that I would probably attend.



posted on May, 12 2010 @ 10:04 AM
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Originally posted by mryanbrown
Apologist?

He asked why people have an issue with racist neo-nazis "celebrating their 'whiteness'". And how it's a double standard.


Actually, wasn't it you that equated "White people that demonstrate" with "racist neo-nazis" to begin with? Why have you decided to purposely misrepresent my position? Unless you have your PC glasses glued to your face, take them off and explain to me why when white people protest, it is fine to assume and label them as racists and xenophobes, but when non-whites do the same it is about pride and honour?

[edit on 12/5/2010 by Dark Ghost]



posted on May, 12 2010 @ 10:05 AM
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Hmmmmmm, so all white protestors are racists and anyone else is just displaying their pride....same tired arguement. Your videos really prove nothing, as there are just as many of the same sort featuring people other than whites. There are extremists on both sides, yet somehow, only white people in general get lumped in with the extremists....yes a double standard exists. I stand by what I said, pretending illegal support rallies are all love, light, and happiness is just delusional thinking.



posted on May, 12 2010 @ 10:13 AM
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Originally posted by Dark Ghost

Originally posted by mryanbrown
Apologist?

He asked why people have an issue with racist neo-nazis "celebrating their 'whiteness'". And how it's a double standard.


Actually, wasn't it you that equated "White people that demonstrate" with "racist neo-nazis" to begin with? Why don't you read over my reply, again. Why the need to misrepresent my arguments?


Actually... it started with this...


Originally posted by ker2010
Incite racial wars? whens the last time you seen white people hit the streets picketing and bringing up race?



Originally posted by mryanbrown
Just a few weeks ago. Because I live in Arizona. The NSM hold protests all the time spouting racial hatred and "white power" like every other neo-nazi retard wannabe Aryan.


So someone asked when was the last time I seen white people hit the streets and pick, bring up race. I said not too long ago thanks to living in Arizona and people like the NSM.

And then you asked >ME< how the NSM having protests where they are CLEARLY RACIST... is racist...

So no I didn't. You attempted to bait-n-switch the discussion to make it appear that way. But people with solid ethics don't change their position, no matter how you try to re-word it.


Originally posted by adifferentbreed
reply to post by mryanbrown
 


Hmmmmmm, so all white protestors are racists and anyone else is just displaying their pride....same tired arguement. Your videos really prove nothing, as there are just as many of the same sort featuring people other than whites. There are extremists on both sides, yet somehow, only white people in general get lumped in with the extremists....yes a double standard exists. I stand by what I said, pretending illegal support rallies are all love, light, and happiness is just delusional thinking.


Apparently you're missing the entire point of this thread. And the continued racism that has followed. People are claiming time and time again these people who knocked the flag down aren't Americans, that they're illegals.

The attitude you are pushing is nearly identical to that of the NSM. If you do not assimilate to our white culture, go home. That is GENOCIDE. (Keep in mind genocide is not always MURDER).

Our AMERICAN, not WHITE culture IS diversity.

So you can try your little word-play, bait-n-switch tactics on me all day. You can equate ME with being a sympathizer, or not a real American or not patriotic. In the end, you are still wrong.



posted on May, 12 2010 @ 10:27 AM
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Venting, deflection and distraction......I expected more from you. Simply answr the question, does a double standard exist? It's simple, yes or no, there is no need for attacks, self martyrdom or any other such nonsense......is there a double standard?



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