Calling all witnesses of reptilian shape shifting

reply to post by RAPBRAZIL

One particular incident was when my wife saw a wooded brown smooth skinned being manifest in our bedroom and somewhat wanted her to know his presence. It seems that he showed himself to her on purpose...like to show her who is in control.

Many a woman has seen a wooded smooth skinned being manifest itself in my bedroom too. Not brown though. I know this 'entity' is showing itself on purpose, usually it's not in control however.

I don't think this is a crazy thread at all. When I was doing some UFO investigations years ago I came across a man and a woman (who didn't know each other) who both told me they'd seen people turn into alien greys then back again. The woman had recently been abducted from her car in a UFO incident and in the few weeks afterwards would see lots of random folk in the street shapeshift. The man saw it one time while exiting a store with a friend. The friend changed into a grey then back to normal again and knew nothing about it.

Originally posted by wigit
I don't think this is a crazy thread at all. When I was doing some UFO investigations years ago I came across a man and a woman (who didn't know each other) who both told me they'd seen people turn into alien greys then back again. The woman had recently been abducted from her car in a UFO incident and in the few weeks afterwards would see lots of random folk in the street shapeshift. The man saw it one time while exiting a store with a friend. The friend changed into a grey then back to normal again and knew nothing about it.

This really begs the question "who are we".

I have always laughed at David Icke notion of shape-shifting lizards and all the illuminatis and so on. My main concern is what do we know of ourselves ?

How long can we continue to trust our perceptions, especially when we know that matter around us is an illusion. The conciousness is constantly interpreting the environment of atoms and waves and generating pictures.
What do we really look like ?

The brain gets busy processing the vibrations and uses 'filters' to keep out what we do not expect. Under the influence of Halucinatory drugs, people report seeing humans change into reptiles an so on. Who is to say the the altered consciousness is not as real.

Perhaps all this reptile talk has an effect on the subconscious and interferes with all the filters that the brains uses. Then we start seen something which is more real. All humans could be reptiles for all I know behind the censored imagery of consciousness.

My first experience was about 5 years ago. Someone within 10 feet changed into a reptile shape and back again all within 2 seconds. Now it could have been an hallucination due to may be an empty stomach and if I had been on drugs that would have been the explanation. However it happened a few times again. Strangely all within the same year.

Psychics as well as occultists know that urges have shapes. More often than not they are larvae and reptiles . Therefore it is not inconceivable that one could perceive that side of a person if the brain did not filter out the unwanted shapes.

Perhaps we are becomming more psychic. As for UFOs I believe so-called aliens are demons of a certain kind. I make the distinction between the ET/demonic figure and the inherent reptile within us all.











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crowdedskies, you sound pretty robotic, lacking emotion, in not only your attention to every responder, but the way you word things? You are kind of freaking me out man.

Originally posted by jeffiriff
crowdedskies, you sound pretty robotic, lacking emotion, in not only your attention to every responder, but the way you word things? You are kind of freaking me out man.

Thanks for your comment. Replying to as many comments is just politeness. The robotic way I do it is to get through as much as possible. The topic has not progressed as fast I as expected, but I had built an expectation of urgency. That is why the wording is odd.

I will try and change the mood. Thanks for pointing it out.

I have a question.

I am not asking this as a joke or as an insult.

How would you know that what you have seen is real? how does anyone who claims to have seen human beings shapeshifting into reptilian aliens know that they are not infact schizophrenic?

I know that to a schizophrenic what they see 'to them' is totally real, they can even smell things that are not infact there.

What not get a mental health evaluation?

Originally posted by crowdedskies
My first experience was about 5 years ago. Someone within 10 feet changed into a reptile shape and back again all within 2 seconds. Now it could have been an hallucination due to may be an empty stomach and if I had been on drugs that would have been the explanation. However it happened a few times again. Strangely all within the same year.

Have you ever wondered if someone/thing deliberately showed you that and that maybe it wasn't just a random thing?

Originally posted by Lady_Tuatha
I have a question.

I am not asking this as a joke or as an insult.

How would you know that what you have seen is real? how does anyone who claims to have seen human beings shapeshifting into reptilian aliens know that they are not infact schizophrenic?

I know that to a schizophrenic what they see 'to them' is totally real, they can even smell things that are not infact there.

What not get a mental health evaluation?

I cannot take offence as this is a fair comment.

Life is full of mysteries and people have different perceptions. I would not consider psychics or spiritualists to be mentally sick although I would not hang around them for too long.

This brings us to other things people see, such as ghosts. Then we have children who have imaginary friends, etc. What about nightmares and so on. That does not warrant a mental health check. If we are feverish we can have a halucination. That does not mean you have to be taken to a doctor.

Everyone allows a little bit of the unexplained into their lives. If the event I mentioned was recurring I would be the first one to consider my health.

While we are at it why don't we label every person who is praying a schizophrenic. I imagine that every magician or witch from coven would also be labelled a schizophrenic.













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Have you ever wondered if someone/thing deliberately showed you that and that maybe it wasn't just a random thing?

No , actually I never thought of it this way. It seemed to make sense at the time. The person in question did not have a nice character and I thought I was having a rare psychic glimpse.

This has fuelled my interest in the way things are perceived by our consciousness. Hence I am launching myself into the philosophical question of "are we what we appear to be". In other words when the brain and consciousness are translating vibrations and waves is there some kind of censorship being carried out in order for the image to conform to our expectation.

In Quantum Mechanics everything is possible and it all depends on the observer.

You obviously have a different view and I would be happy to hear.

BTW do you think my Avatar needs changing. I am having difficulty reading my own post as it is too hypnotic and is trigerring some adverse reaction from some people.






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Schizophrenia:
'It most commonly manifests as auditory hallucinations, paranoid or bizarre delusions, or disorganized speech and thinking with significant social or occupational dysfunction.'

Does seeing a reptilian shape shifter every now and then count as schizophrenia? I'm not up on my mental health studies.

Could be I guess.. however, it's a tad strange if there's many people with the story of shape-shifting in humans. The symptom being the strange part. I think it may be a good idea to see if the people with tales to tell, say if they have any other 'symptoms' that are weird.

I'm on the fence on this one so i hope no one takes offense to my post.

Originally posted by Sloppy
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Schizophrenia:
'It most commonly manifests as auditory hallucinations, paranoid or bizarre delusions, or disorganized speech and thinking with significant social or occupational dysfunction.'

Does seeing a reptilian shape shifter every now and then count as schizophrenia? I'm not up on my mental health studies.

Could be I guess.. however, it's a tad strange if there's many people with the story of shape-shifting in humans. The symptom being the strange part. I think it may be a good idea to see if the people with tales to tell, say if they have any other 'symptoms' that are weird.

I'm on the fence on this one so i hope no one takes offense to my post.

No one will take offence for your comment. However we are going off the rail here.

Had this been a fervent discussion about illuminatis and reptilians which I am not interested in), no mention of schizophrenia would have been made. Neither would it have been mentioned if this was a discussion about magical techniques , such as drawing a pentagram to summon a spirit .

Perhaps ATS is not a place to be philosophical. One of the main questions of philosophy is 'What is reality'. We translate reality from the processing of the waves and atoms around us (Yes, I know all philosophers are mad)

My point is that we are innundated with the illuminati/reptilian idea and my aim to dispel the myth of the reptilian takeover by first asking people to take on board the concept that our perception may trick us. Is the normal human feature a true one or is it just a cover for a snake-like feature ? It is a valid speculation.

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No I would not label all those people as schizophrenics. I would however advise anyone that is seeing people shapeshift into reptilian aliens in broad daylight, and if its a recurring event to get themselves checked out medically, regardless of their faith, beliefs, religion etc. If I myself seen something so utterly strange happen then I would go and get myself checked out.

I always though it had more to do with the "reptilian" part of our brain, the brain stem and the cerebellum.

I have heard this governs the instinctive "survival" behavior and thinking, therefore if some people access this vibration in a predatory way, it has a way of taking you over.

Hence people looking like reptilian is just my brain processing that info that this person channels a lot of energy through their cerebellum and brainstem, considered the lower energetic fields. Percieving a reptilian form is just my unconscious speaking to my consciousness in a way my conscious mind will understand.

Originally posted by wylee
I always though it had more to do with the "reptilian" part of our brain, the brain stem and the cerebellum.

I have heard this governs the instinctive "survival" behavior and thinking, therefore if some people access this vibration in a predatory way, it has a way of taking you over.

Hence people looking like reptilian is just my brain processing that info that this person channels a lot of energy through their cerebellum and brainstem, considered the lower energetic fields. Percieving a reptilian form is just my unconscious speaking to my consciousness in a way my conscious mind will understand.

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I am not too familiar with the brain stem and cerebellum. I however agree with the notion of the unconscious speaking with the conscious.

There is so much attached to perception. It seems each one of us picks up objects from the immediate environment in a very partial and deliberate way. There are things right in front of us that we are totally blind to while there are other objects which we pick up and decipher in accordance to our preconception , which itself may be influenced by the unconscious.

The brain is a marvellous tool. It gives us a constant feed of information which may not necessarily be a full representation of reality but which suits our expectation. If you then throw in the unconscious then a different picture may emerge.

Scientist have shown, using Quantum mechanics, that matter behaves according to the observer. Change the observer and matter will change. Everything is possible and the observer determines what is seen.
Thus everything unexplained, be it ghosts, UFOs or whatever has its roots in the way we perceive what is around us.

Just in case you wondered, I have had to change my avatar. I am looking for a suitable image. It seems to trigger something in people while others have reported that it was causing nausea and a fit.

Going back to the subject, I would like to focus on the less drastic shape-shifting of the pupil of the eye. An earlier response mentioned the pupil of a colleague shifting to vertical rather than circular. Please note that this was verified by another colleague who agreed that this was happening.

Here my question is whether the pupil of the eye has a restriction. In other words , should it only dilate in a circular way.

I am not too sure that an individual with funny changing eyes (cat eye or snake eye) should necessarily be considered inhuman. I would find it very sexy if my girlfriend did that trick.

My view is that we are probably picking something (may be through our unconscious - thanks Wylee) and our brain translate it as a snake eye. With all the primordial connections that are established within our psyche the brain somehow thinks snakeeye is appropriate. How about this notion ?

Originally posted by crowdedskies
Just in case you wondered, I have had to change my avatar. I am looking for a suitable image. It seems to trigger something in people while others have reported that it was causing nausea and a fit.

Haha, you are kidding right? Are you saying you've had a pile of U2Us complaining about it? Name and shame them. Your avatar was cool, if it's the one I remember. Half a face wearing shades?
It's your name that's unnerving me to tell truth. You joined a couple of months ago it says, but I'm thinking Crowdedskies has been a member of ATS for years. Can you explain that?

BTW I wouldn't go to a doctor if I saw some shape-shifting going on either. You wouldn't get a brain scan or in depth diagnosis anyway, you'd get a prescription for pills you don't need and be sent on you way.

Originally posted by wigit

Originally posted by crowdedskies
Just in case you wondered, I have had to change my avatar. I am looking for a suitable image. It seems to trigger something in people while others have reported that it was causing nausea and a fit.

Haha, you are kidding right? Are you saying you've had a pile of U2Us complaining about it? Name and shame them. Your avatar was cool, if it's the one I remember. Half a face wearing shades?
It's your name that's unnerving me to tell truth. You joined a couple of months ago it says, but I'm thinking Crowdedskies has been a member of ATS for years. Can you explain that?

BTW I wouldn't go to a doctor if I saw some shape-shifting going on either. You wouldn't get a brain scan or in depth diagnosis anyway, you'd get a prescription for pills you don't need and be sent on you way.

The reason I used crowdedskies was because I wanted to focus only on UFOs. After joining I realised that there is a crowdedskies.com website which has nothing to do with me. I did not know about any previous crowdedskies member. I would really like to change this name, since I am into a lot of things ; current affairs as well as the unexplained.

As far as the doctor thing is concerned, it is all ludicrous. I am perfectly normal. However I did notice that I seemed to have opened channels regarding UFOs. I can easily capture UFOs on film which I show to friends and relatives. But I am very much aware that it is not a healthy connection. I have already worked out what they are as you already know from other forums.

I always had a passion for Esoteric studies and I even threw in Astrology when a was a teenager. Analytical psychology ( C G Jung) and Quantum mechanics are also my favorite topics.

Not sure about what to do with the avatar. No UTUs complaining but friends advising. I was going to substitute for a crow but that is too morbid and negative.

Anyway I am curently working on integrating quantum mechanics into my esoteric studies. It fits like a glove. Pity that science took so long to catch up. I fear however that the quantum physicists who specialise in QM may be evicted from the Scientific garden of Eden. What they have discovered goes against all th notions of science (Everything is possible - if you look for waves you will see waves ; if you look for atoms you will see atoms) Matter behaves according to the observer and they have proven it.





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Originally posted by Scorched_Ohio

... When I was a young kid (early 1980s), my Mom and I walked into a restaurant. The place was busy so there was a line of people forming near the door. There were seats near the door so that some of the waiting customers could sit down while waiting for a table. One seated person caught my eye immediately. Take your average grey alien and give it caucasian skin with women's clothing....
The point is that I know non-humans and hybrids walk around our planet pretending to be "regular-Earth-humans" for whatever reasons.

Wow! That's a really interesting story. There ought to be a thread about all extraterrestrial beings spotted trying to blend in with humans. Why in the world would a grey alien want to go to a crowded restaurant? Did it read a good review in Zagat? You'd think they'd realize when they're not exactly laying low enough!

Reptilian Shape Shifting?
Two words: bull crap.

I have a theory about why there are soooo many people who seem to be able to spot reptilian shapeshifters in videoclips but so very few who claim to have seen this phenomenon in person.

Obviously, there is something about video-recording technology that can temporarily alter or lift the perception filter that these reptilians use to disguise themselves as humans.

That would explain it all!