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May 7, 2010 -- Renowned astronomer and astrophysicist Dr. Carl Sagan revealed to Dr. J. Allen Hynek that he believed UFOs were real but avoided any public statements to prevent the loss of academic research funding. In an interview with research journalist and author Paola Leopizzi-Harris (www.paolaharris.com...) she told ZlandCommunications: “My recollection is that Hynek said it was backstage of one of the many Johnny Carson Tonight shows Sagan did. He basically said (to Hynek) in 1984, ‘I know UFOs are real, but I would not risk my research (College) funding, as you do, to talk openly about them in public.
This startling revelation about Carl Sagan, one of this century’s most esteemed scientists and writers, has now been made public by Paola Leopizzi-Harris, a former associate of Dr. Allen J. Hynek who worked with him from 1980 to 1985. Dr. J. Allen Hynek served as a civilian scientific consultant to the U.S. Air Force Project Blue Book from 1952 to 1969, initially taking a very critical and skeptical position on anything related to the reality of UFOs. In one of his own reports he stated: "I had started out as an outright 'debunker,' taking great joy in cracking what seemed at first to be puzzling cases. I was the arch-enemy of those 'flying saucer groups and enthusiasts' who very dearly wanted UFOs to be interplanetary.” (Hynek, J. Allen. "The Hynek UFO Report". Dell Publishing Co. 1977)
After leaving Project Blue Book - the U.S. Air Force’s pseudo-investigatory public relations scheme on UFOs, Hynek later wrote: "Now, however, documentation which puts the UFO-U.S. government controversy in quite a new light has become available. The (UFO) authors have made revealing use of documents released through the mechanism of the Freedom of Information Act and other data which have been made available to them… which show that the CIA and NSA protestations of innocence and lack of interest in UFOs are nothing short of prevarication." Hynek went on to say: "For the government to continue to maintain that UFOs are nonexistent in the face of the documents already released and of other cogent evidence presented in this book is puerile and in a sense an insult to the American people." ("The UFO Cover-Up." Fireside books, Simon & Schuster 1984). Hynek’s credentials are indeed impressive, having consulted on the Stephen Spielberg movie 'Close Encounters'. As well he presented a paper on UFOs at the UN in 1978.
In a statement at the 1968 Congressional Hearings before the House Committee on Science and Astronautics - U.S. House of Representatives Carl Sagan stated: “As I understand what the committee would like from me, is a discussion of the likelihood of intelligent extraterrestrial life… clearly it is the hypothesis that unidentified objects are of extraterrestrial origin which the committee must have in mind. I'm delighted to tell about contemporary scientific thinking along these lines, but let me begin by saying that I do not think the evidence is at all persuasive, that UFO's are of intelligent extraterrestrial origin...” (files.ncas.org...)
IMO, the final proof that we're not alone in this universe will be a paradigm-shift very much like the realization, that our earth isn't flat and the sun isn't circling around us. Today, we look pitiful back to those who could really believe, that earth was flat and the center of the universe (and of course, of creation...)
But we have to understand, that back in those days, the question if earth was flat, wasn't just a scientific one. It also was a political question. Because those who postulated that the earth was flat and the center of the universe, also claimed to be the surrogates of god. Doubting in earth's flatness also meant doubting the legitimacy of those who claimed to know and to do god's will.
You know what happened to those miserable ones who were found to be all too heretic - if they weren't burned like Giordano Bruno, they were put to silence like Galileo Gallilei.
Today, it seems like as if those days are long gone. But still today a scientist is in danger to lose all his credibility if he seriously postulates the possibility of extraterrestrial life (and not just microbes - and to think about, that maybe they've been already here - unthinkable!!!).
And there's a reason for it.
Because as in those long gone days of the so called "dark age", it isn't really about religion or science. It's about politics, it's about power.
To postulate, that there's an extraterrestrial life, probably a high developped alien civilization means thinking about the possibility, that there could be something that's migthier than TPTB. And that's heretic.
Ok, the times have changed a bit, today, nobody would get burned for claiming that there maybe are powers mightier than TPTB. It just can happen, that someone has an accident or stuff like that, nothing serious.
Seriously - I highly doubt, that there will be an official disclosure in the way we would like it to happen: Obama in the prime-time-news welcoming a delegation of aliens on the lawn of the whitehouse, shaking hands with their leader, looking in the cameras and saying: "It's been a small step for them [out of their spacecrafts] but it will be a giant leap for mankind."
It won't happen like that. It will happen in smaller amounts, piece by piece, small enough that mankind can swallow it.
It will very much be like when earth lost it's flatness: It happened gently and impalpably.
And one day, people laughed when they heard someone talking about those days when people believed, earth was flat.
"Of course we're not alone!"
just keep your eyes open and listen, how the times change...
Originally posted by DrHammondStoat
How is Paola Harris regarded at ATS, is she thought to be a reliable source? I don't really know that much about her.
Italy's Disclosure Of Human Looking Aliens
What follows is a groundbreaking commentary and interview by Paola Harris concerning new evidence in Italy of human looking extraterrestrials living among the Italian population. The interview was conducted in November 2006 and the commentary written in May 2007. The commentary and interview have been respectively numbered I. & II. and combined as a special feature article for the Exopolitics Journal
I. “The Timing is the Thing” … that tells us everything
I remember years ago in 1999, that Dr. Michael Wolf Kruvante told me that there was going to be a “slow” process release of information governed by a “special study group”. He may have been the first to print what he said were two alien photos on his book ”Catchers of Heaven”. One is a blonde blue-eyed human looking alien called Sa Ra from Altair 4 [photo below], the other a “baby” grey.
He talks extensively about his role as interface with this human looking alien in a diplomatic capacity.
These are the protocols of which I speak in my new book: Exopolitics: How Does One Speak To A Ball Of Light - Exopolitical challenges and protocols for future contact.
This year in Italy, two important books surfaced talking about aliens among us. The first book was written by Stefano Breccia. Italian engineer and computer graphics expert and telecommunications who is considered a very credible source. The book is called Contattismi di Massa (Nexus Edizioni) which literally means Mass Contacts. It deals with two opposing groups of Aliens situated near the Adriatic coast near Pescara who mingled among the residents and especially who communicated with several important political figures in 1956.
Their liaison contactee was a man called Bruno Sammaciccia, a credible figure who held four University degrees among them psychology and psychiatry and amazingly enough was nominated man of the year by UNESCO in 1982 for his cultural background. He was first contacted telepathically by these very tall (8 foot) humanoid aliens who had a base in the Adriatic sea.
In the Chapter called “Amicizia” at the end of the book he talks about their habits, intentions and their interaction with humans among them, such prestigious figures as a Brazilian Cardinal, a famous painter, a general of the carabinieri( Italian Military Police) but in particular, they contacted the much noted (Italian Consul) Console Perego who had the sighting over St. Peter’s December 1st 1953 and who spoke about UFOS to many Italian Officials in the 50’s much like Adamski.
Contacted telepathically was also, journalist/photographer Bruno Ghibaudi who took the amazing photos of these distinct craft coming out of the water near Pescara on the Adriatic coast. The book includes many photos of this plus the dignitaries mentioned plus one photo of an 8 foot tall Alien who said he was part of a confederation from a “blue” galaxy which means probably a blue nebula. One message given to Planet Earth was “most extraterrestrial life was humanoid in Nature”! They look like us!
The second book that I researched is called Beyond Heaven or Oltre il Cielo by Maurizio Cavallo. This second book details the agony and the ecstasy of Maurizio’s contact with a group from Clarion from the star system of Aquila (the Eagle). The problems with conflicting realities and dimensional travel which almost led him to insanity.
Cavallo’s contact happened in 1981 and in an effort to stabilize himself in this reality, he took many photographs, and many Polaroids of different aliens, of this what he also calls the “confederation”! These Clarions asked him not to release them for 10 years to test his commitment to them. Most every photograph portrait has a name and is very particular. He explained to me that his Clarion Contacts absorb light when photographed so there are many flashes of light as in the picture of Suell.
I have been working on the Maurizio Cavallo story since October 2006 and find him very stable, logical, calm and credible. He simply lives his story. It is very difficult to evaluate this type of case that has films, photographs and artifacts. Although I visited him four times always staying in his town for days, I became very anxious to involve Jaime Maussan from Mexico in this particular case especially since he was doing the “Antonio Urzzi” case only 40 kilometers away.
The Urzi footage of daylight UFOs matches that of Mauizio Cavallo and in one film, it seems like the same UfO. Antonio Urzi is in Milano, Cavallo lives one hour away near Torino and his contacts come about in Val D’Aosta as well as the French Alps. Jaime Maussan flew to Milano the 11th of May 2007 and he filmed interviews for two days.
Both these contactees are summoned to film these craft plus they are sensitive to the presence of their extraterrestrial friends. They are chosen.
It is ironic to me that there is a special timing to all this. It seems about time that we realize that these people walk among us on Earth and they are concerned with our welfare to some extent. My job is simply to report the story and with Jaime Maussan to slowly analyze the case and report what they tell us. You decide! Maybe It is time!
Originally posted by anon72
Sagan said to Hynek, that he knew UFOs were real but could not talk publicly about the matter and possibly risk the loss of academic funding.
Originally posted by Reevster
The debunkers can only debunk so long , they can twist words and ridicule others , but in the end it will be all for not.
Originally posted by DoomsdayRex
This claim and others that Sagan's public opinion on UFOs was restricted by monetary concerns is not based in any sort of reality.
Originally posted by draknoir2
And what a revelation that Carl Sagan actually believed that there are objects in the sky that haven't yet been identified by the observers!