reply to post by blocula
...Plato,born in 428 bc,pre-dates the New Testament and some of the re-writes of the Old Testament and he wrote in his work called
"First,there was the Moon in the orbit nearest the Earth and next the Sun,in the second orbit above the Earth. Then came the "morning star" and the
star sacred to Hermes,moving in orbits which have an equal swiftness with the Sun,but in an opposite direction ...
was Plato correct. that 'Hermes' and 'Morning Star' moved in opposite directions...
on the face of it, it seems Plato is in error in his observation, because both 'Hermes'=mercury
and 'Morning Star'=venus orbit the Sun in the same direction, as with all of the inner rocky planets
but here's the weird thing... was Plato referring to the orbit direction of Morning Star (venus)
or was he being occultist, cryptic in stating that the Morning Star (venus) rotated in an opposite direction?
you see... Venus under a dense cloud cover was not known to be rotating on it's axis opposite what the Earth rotates in the 24 hour period we know as
Venus in fact spins to the West at the fantastically slow rate of 1 venusian 'Day' equalling 243 Earth days
now, since the ancients, did not have modern astronomy devices or space probes to know the planet spins backwards from every other planet in the solar
just how did our ancestors from ~10,000 years ago, at the start of religions...
know to give that 'Morning Star' its designation of 'Lucifer'...a Lucifer that goes counter to God...just as the planet Venus is rotating counter
to the solar systems cosmic harmony...
did the ancients have special knowledge passed to them... which became Myth as a way for the human collective memory to embrace these 'facts' which
were beyond any historical technology available
your guess is as good as mine...
the opposite 'Day' rotation of Morning Star/Lucifer could not have been seen before telescopes were invented,
even if the dense cloud cover of Morning Star/Lucifer (Venus) was not yet obscuring the surface before 10,000 years ago
So early men, in developing their religions, were purely lucky in selecting Venus to be the Luciferian body in the Solar System... the only celestial
body in our inner system to rotate opposite the others
Lucky or inspired?
or just a fluke ?
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