Lucifer = Planet Venus, not Satan - PROOF, page 12

reply to post by BeastMaster2012

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The devil's in the details.

Sounds plausible to me. Great thread!

reply to post by BeastMaster2012

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The templar knights were a religious military order formed in the 12th century,they built "churches" in denmark,italy,england,france and romania.If you connect them together by drawing a line,they actually form a perfectly shaped "Pentagram"...

And now realize that the man made structures and landmarks in washington.dc also form a "Pentagram'...

Just as the orbits of venus and earth do,as you so brilliantly revealed...

Then realize that venus was a comet that entered into our solar system,was slowed down by the earth and then was captured and held into its present orbit by the sun...

But was it by accident,or was it by design?

Now all we have to do is put those pieces together to realize whats really going on in this world...

www.cuttingedge.org...

www.templarhistory.com...

reply to post by blocula

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I don't know much about comets or meteroids, but let's say around 5000 years ago this happened, Venus is supposedly huge, almost exactly the same size as the Earth and is in a perfectly round shape. After a collision, could this huge object form such a shape in a short period of time?

I believe that earth and Venus are locked into some weird relationship and if they collided at some point that would make sense, it's just hard to see Venus forming in such a small period of time. You would think that a huge portion of it would be gone. Also it seems like Venus once had life on it, or atleast water and mountains. It just seems like Venus has been around for a very long time.

I would love to believe that, and it would fit into why the mayans called the beginning of this last cycle to be the "birth of Venus".

reply to post by BeastMaster2012

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Thats just it,there was no collision between the earth and venus,just a close pass by from venus,whos gravitational attraction was near enough to tilt the earths axis a little,but more than enough to send massive tsunamis across large sections of the continents,also causing earthquakes,volcanic eruptions and bizarre lightning interactions between earth and the rogue comet venus...

Thats the origin of our myths and legends of the flood,the ancient deluge that just about every country has told about for thousands of years and its also the origin of our myths and legends of titanic battles and cosmic struggles in the earth,on the earth and in the sky between the gods and godesses...

People the world over who witnessed this all happening back then,who lived to tell about it and who passed the memories of it down to their children,would have thought their gods and godesses were at war and very angry...

reply to post by blocula

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...Plato,born in 428 bc,pre-dates the New Testament and some of the re-writes of the Old Testament and he wrote in his work called Timaeus...

"First,there was the Moon in the orbit nearest the Earth and next the Sun,in the second orbit above the Earth. Then came the "morning star" and the star sacred to Hermes,moving in orbits which have an equal swiftness with the Sun,but in an opposite direction ...

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was Plato correct. that 'Hermes' and 'Morning Star' moved in opposite directions...

on the face of it, it seems Plato is in error in his observation, because both 'Hermes'=mercury
and 'Morning Star'=venus orbit the Sun in the same direction, as with all of the inner rocky planets


but here's the weird thing... was Plato referring to the orbit direction of Morning Star (venus)
or was he being occultist, cryptic in stating that the Morning Star (venus) rotated in an opposite direction?



RE: cseligman.com...


you see... Venus under a dense cloud cover was not known to be rotating on it's axis opposite what the Earth rotates in the 24 hour period we know as a day.

Venus in fact spins to the West at the fantastically slow rate of 1 venusian 'Day' equalling 243 Earth days
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now, since the ancients, did not have modern astronomy devices or space probes to know the planet spins backwards from every other planet in the solar system...
just how did our ancestors from ~10,000 years ago, at the start of religions...
know to give that 'Morning Star' its designation of 'Lucifer'...a Lucifer that goes counter to God...just as the planet Venus is rotating counter to the solar systems cosmic harmony...

did the ancients have special knowledge passed to them... which became Myth as a way for the human collective memory to embrace these 'facts' which were beyond any historical technology available


your guess is as good as mine...



the opposite 'Day' rotation of Morning Star/Lucifer could not have been seen before telescopes were invented,
even if the dense cloud cover of Morning Star/Lucifer (Venus) was not yet obscuring the surface before 10,000 years ago
So early men, in developing their religions, were purely lucky in selecting Venus to be the Luciferian body in the Solar System... the only celestial body in our inner system to rotate opposite the others

Lucky or inspired?
or just a fluke ?

Originally posted by casenately
awesome.....That animation is great. I tried to do the same thing once in class with a program that had a map of the solar system in it to see if any planets aligned to form a pentagram. I failed and got in trouble for not doing the assignment....lol

As far as the translation being off......Agreed.

I have become such a nitpicker with biblical translations lately. The official versions are sooooo off sometimes.

Thank you for this entire thread....you have rocked real hard....and I salute you.

Did you see that Mercury creates the six pointed star? That is pretty cool too..

This is a stunning fact, but there is more. Mercury, like Venus has a shorter orbit than Earth; in the case of Mercury, very much shorter. Mercury completes three orbits in just under 50 weeks, so that there are six conjunctions ­ three ³inferior² and three ³superior² in each year. If all six are marked on the circle of the zodiac and the three inferior joined by lines drawn 1-2-3-1 and the three superior joined 1-2-3-1. The result is a hexagram ­ the Star of David or Seal of Solomon. What makes this an even more striking image is that, as you will all recognise, the order of drawing the triangles is the same as that used in the dedication of the temple prior to a Martinist meeting.

www.mikecrowson.co.uk...

reply to post by BeastMaster2012

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Excellent thread!
I never knew that about Venus and its cyclical movement.

I have been aware for some time about the elite's obsession with Venus.
You may find this article from The Vigilant Citizen interesting:
vigilantcitizen.com...

In the following scene, we see the result of this simulated gang bang: A pregnant Anna posing in a way similar to the classic painting “Birth of Venus”. We then see a countdown from the year 2012 to the year zero, which is associated with the birth year of Jesus Christ.

Originally posted by St Udio
reply to post by blocula

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...Plato,born in 428 bc,pre-dates the New Testament and some of the re-writes of the Old Testament and he wrote in his work called Timaeus...

"First,there was the Moon in the orbit nearest the Earth and next the Sun,in the second orbit above the Earth. Then came the "morning star" and the star sacred to Hermes,moving in orbits which have an equal swiftness with the Sun,but in an opposite direction ...

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was Plato correct. that 'Hermes' and 'Morning Star' moved in opposite directions...

on the face of it, it seems Plato is in error in his observation, because both 'Hermes'=mercury
and 'Morning Star'=venus orbit the Sun in the same direction, as with all of the inner rocky planets


but here's the weird thing... was Plato referring to the orbit direction of Morning Star (venus)
or was he being occultist, cryptic in stating that the Morning Star (venus) rotated in an opposite direction?



RE: cseligman.com...

Venus in fact spins to the West at the fantastically slow rate of 1 venusian 'Day' equalling 243 Earth days

I think that the rogue comet venus has such a slow rotation because its original rotation speed was slowed down a little by the earths gravity as it closely and relatively slowly swept passed and was then captured by the suns gravity,which slowed the rotation of venus even further to aquire its present day rotational rate of 243 earth days...

reply to post by BeastMaster2012

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Its quite possible that most or even all asteroids were once actually comets that have burned off their outer layers and this burning off we see in the night sky as their tails...

Ancient accounts and records from all over the world of massive "fiery dragons with burning tails in the sky" are quite numerous...

According to the information in this and other links,pluto,with a diameter of 1,423 miles,might have once been a comet and theres even a comet thats larger than jupiter > wiki.answers.com...

So could venus,with a diameter of 7,520 miles,have once been a "rogue comet?...Yes...

Earths diameter is 7,926 miles...

Jupiters diameter is 88,846 miles...

Ceres,the largest known asteroid has a diameter of 590 miles...

The distinction between "asteroids" and "comets" has now started to blur seriously...When Do Asteroids And Comets Become One And The Same? > www.spacedaily.com...

I just don't understand how a rogue comet or asteroid can be the size of a planet, come into our area and become a planet. I guess it could have come from jupiter, but i am wondering where it could have come from.

I like what you are saying, because it is really the only explanation for the mayans start of the calendar naming it the "Birth of Venus". Like i have said, there is a lot of weird things that happened around 5000 years ago regarding Venus:

3100bc - Kali Yuga starts - end of the Hindu epoch begins
3114bc - Birth of Venus - end of the Mayan epoch begins
3200 bc - Newgrange built - Built to record Venus path

I really think there is something to the mayans naming of this epoch the "Birth of Venus". It's just so strange. Anyways i have a thread from awhile ago talking about when Venus was first seen, there are some interesting replies at the end of the thread.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

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