If you want to live in Britain, don't wear burqah

Funny that everybody makes assumptions. These women chose to wear it, and many of them are NATURAL BORN BRITISH CITIZENS..

It is expressing their FREEDOM to wear it, nobody forces them to.




Deny Ignorance.

reply to post by i944002


Ah, ok...

So in the west by "forcing" women to cover up their breasts we're opressing them?
Is it possible that muslim women wear the burqa/hijab/niqab because they would feel naked without it, you know like some kind of cultural thing?
Thats what my friend who is from Iraq and Turkey says (yes, they are girls, not evil opressing muslim men), but I guess you know better.....
Just because you think it is opressing doesn't mean it is.

I will agree that the burqa is a bit over the top, but who am I to pass judgement?

And how about crucifixes, you think Jesus would like to see a cross if he comes back? I for one find it highly inapropriate to wear an old instrument of torture around your neck.


And about westerners having to live by muslim standards in UAE... Guess you haven't been to many embassy parties in the Emirates.

Originally posted by i944002


The reasons behind why the burqa is worn are very un-British. In Britain, women have the same rights as men. The burqa, among other facets in Muslim culture, is one of the results of inequality. Removal of the burqa is not a violation of their religious freedom, it is a granting of actual freedom.

Yes, let's grant them freedom by LIMITING which clothing they can wear.

Bravo for logic. LOL.

Do you not see how this makes no sense?

Originally posted by RizeorDie
reply to post by catwhoknows

 

first lets ask ourselves why do they wear the burkas?

while some women are happily wearing them because they feel that it is the right thing to do and i have nothing against that.

but the majority in islamic countries are forced to wear them. why?

WRONG. Not a single Muslim country forces women to wear a Burqa. NOT A SINGLE ONE. Afghanistan used to. That was it. Women who wear burqas in ANY Islamic country chooses to. Many are encouraged not to wear it by their own government. I can't believe people are this ignorant about how it really is.

The only countries that force u to wear a HIJAB (completely different, only a head scarf) are Iran and Saudi Arabia.. And they are lax on it in Iran, the women show their hair.


Deny ignorance.

Personally, being British, I think anyone who doesn't believe in freedom of expression, freedom of religion and freedom to allow people the right to do what they want to within the law - and who seeks to put restrictions on such things - is the one not being very British at all.

Edited for clarity, and to add this - what someone wears never hurt anyone. Its usually other peoples reaction to what someone is wearing where the problems start. Frankly, how people choose to dress is no one elses business.

[edit on 9/5/10 by neformore]

the presedent of france is trying to pass a law that in france muslims must not wear barqa's or however you spell it

reply to post by thoughtsfull


Dude. Ooops sorry I used a non-British term.

Interesting facts. They are wasted on some of the racist hacks on this thread. There is no problem with the Burka. It is just being used by all of the xenophobes. I cannot believe that some of these people give a flying f**K about female rights. We do not seem to be flooded with the horror of the sexual harassment that our anglo -saxon schoolboy in the city get up to (see recent newspapers for details).

We do not seem to have many threads about the the plight of women in the west but dear god the Burka generates discussion. The Burka is an article worn buy what 0.0001 of society!!!




[edit on 9-5-2010 by Tiger5]

Originally posted by SkurkNilsen
reply to post by flymetothemoon

 

Just a note, Søren Krarup is a member of a danish nationalist party compareable to the BNP, so no surprise he uses any excuse to attack muslims.

Yes. He's member of the third biggest party in Denmark. DF. Well known for his very controversial statements and expression of opinions. The comparison of the headscarf with the Nazi's swastika was highly criticised and had no place at all. Way over the top. Again "freedom of speech". Muslims are also entitled to freedom of speech...So, where to draw the line and do we only allow "free speech", as long as it's something we agree with ? We can't have it both ways.

Same as peoples choice of how to dress. I won't let fashion dictate, what i'm going to wear. Or if i wan't to wear anything at all. What is freedom for some people, does not nessesarily mean freedom for other...
More i would worry about people who can't afford to buy any clothes, shoes ect.

reply to post by flymetothemoon


Well put, there are just too many people caring about the wrong things in society today.

Originally posted by FalselyFlagged
Funny that everybody makes assumptions. These women chose to wear it, and many of them are NATURAL BORN BRITISH CITIZENS..

It is expressing their FREEDOM to wear it, nobody forces them to.

Deny Ignorance.

Yes lets 'Deny Ignorance.' as you say

Female muslims are appressed from birth and run a high risk of being killed if they don't tow the line and do as they are told.

Are you sugesting they don't want to go out without freinds unless a male family member goes with them ?

I think not and if you read what femail muslims say who have broken away then they don't seem to be quite agreeing with your understanding of 'FREEDOM' and all wear scares to prove it and are being offered reconstruction surgery.

Some people like being whipped and i'm all for freedom if thats what they like but it's another story to sugest female muslims like it if they don't pray ten times a day and the husband get the whip out.

Sorry but for reasons listed i can not agree with you statement and welcome your reply.

reply to post by DISRAELI


You say don't insist other people wear the burqah - that would be the men who force women to wear the burquah.

reply to post by LieBuster


I disagree.

I think it is men who force them.

And rule over them.

Everyone has rights.

Do these women choose to wear the Burkqua?

NO, THEY DO NOT!

It is something that men have done to them.

So do not brush it away and ignore it.

reply to post by dalek


Hi Dalek,

What I am saying is that people who move into Britain can do what they want except...

If you went to an Islamic country, they would dictate to you what you wore or what you did not wear. Why is that?

All I am saying is that if you have people moving into Britain, you can tell them what or what not to wear - which goes against their religion.

What I am saying is that what they say is the law, and what you say is crap. Hello, is this your country or not?

In other words, they are dictating to you - even though they do not belong to your country.

Originally posted by catwhoknows
reply to post by LieBuster

 

I disagree.

I think it is men who force them.

And rule over them.

Right on sister! And does the sister have any proof of this bold assertion. A peer revirewed paper would be nice!

reply to post by Tiger5


OK, the men forced them.

Men always force women - correct me if I am wrong.

I don't have access to proof right now but we all know that it is always the truth.

reply to post by catwhoknows


Your arguments are so weak it's ridicolous, if you feel the need to voice your opinion at least try to make an effort.

Originally posted by catwhoknows
Everyone has rights.

Do these women choose to wear the Burkqua?

NO, THEY DO NOT!

It is something that men have done to them.

So do not brush it away and ignore it.

Who died and made you the specialist on what Muslim women do and do not choose in a free society

Racist bastard close this thread please
You are a joke, let's say barbados ban's clothing and you want to wear clothes, you a twat, i hate you, i hate people like you and im british as you like and not muslim, it has NOTHING to do with somebody wearing something around your head, you THINK that will fix anything?!!?

Your a moron!

Regards

Originally posted by catwhoknows
reply to post by Tiger5

 

OK, the men forced them.

Men always force women - correct me if I am wrong.

I don't have access to proof right now but we all know that it is always the truth.

My wife forced me to go to an art exibition last friday, I wanted to go to the pub with my mates, I feel awfully opressed and all...

Women allways force men, and I've got the proof sitting right next to me

Just right now she's forcing me to not drink my third beer, just because I have work tomorrow, at least she is giving me strong suggestions that this will be for my own good, matriarchaic madness i tells ya!

Men of the west it is time to cast the feminine chains that for so long has held us down, FIGHT THE GIRL POWER, meeting will be held at most local pubs most days

Just following up on your request to proving you wrong, at least my post got more substance and proof than yours, I think I can even get a written statement from aforementioned opressor to verify the truth of aforementioned opression.......

Anywhooo, I think that the fashion pressure on teen girls in the western society is more insane than wearing even those full burqas.

I wouldn't wear a burqa, but I will defend your right to wear one