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I Have Become a Racist

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posted on May, 8 2010 @ 07:59 PM
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I got over the stigma of being called a racist or Nazi long ago, they no longer have meaning to me.
These are very good observations; a little late in the game, thought. I think that this can't be reversed and a good piece of advice is to start getting your kids, if any, to learn Spanish.
They will face less discrimination.




posted on May, 8 2010 @ 07:59 PM
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Originally posted by ker2010
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I have to correct you and a few others about how hard mexicans work. Do they work hard compared to the new generation of americans? Hell yeah!!
Do they work hard compared to most americans who are age 55+ ?

HELL NO

The old school americans busted ass. My dad is 61 and im 35 and he can work as hard if not harder than me and im no slouch.

My dad would work 50 hours at the factory then go tear off shingles and put them up in the hot sun on the weekend to make ends meet.

His generation HAD TO WORK they had no choice. My dad was putting in tobacco at 10 y/o

My dad in his mids 30's i bet you anything no mexican could out work him.

So tell everyone mexicans are hard workers compared to these younger americans.



[edit on 8-5-2010 by ker2010]


That is a good point, I certainly did not mean to generalize.

But I think the OP is generalizing when he hold everything against an entire group of people.



posted on May, 8 2010 @ 08:00 PM
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I've read many times the claim that "people are people" and we are all part of "one".

Through my vast experiences in life...I have seen this is simply not true. It isn't enough to say "can we all just get along?". Or to claim "we're all human beings in the end" and expect us all to sing around campfires and hold hands.

It just isn't so. Reality is nowhere near that. Different groups have different agendas. Collective Egos SEPARATE themselves from other humans. I say that the true racist is the person who lives and moves based on their 'identity', and forgives everything their collective (identity) does, and lashes out at all others if they question the collective.

Being "Hispanic" has become a culture of it's own in America. It doesn't seem like it is just a genetic trait anymore, like the rest of us feel about our traits.

"Hyphenated" Americans it is. It seems that many Hispanics along with the "Pro Illegal" crowd, are honoring their COLLECTIVE more than the good of the nation or their immediate neighborhoods.


America needs to work to become a unified culture or "Uni-culture". People joining collectives out of some false sense of identity is not the answer. Hispanics more and more seem to be splitting off into this realm as the Zionists did.

Many American Hispanics are identifying with their BLOOD LINE more than their Country and people are getting upset...people all ALL RACES AND CULTURES.



posted on May, 8 2010 @ 08:04 PM
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We have to fight for the common good, and the common good should include all our neighbors, not just our backyard. Unless we reach this point, there will always be someone walking into our house trying to take what's ours.

Peace.



posted on May, 8 2010 @ 08:07 PM
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I wasn't racist either, until I starting working with those in the Affirmative Action program.

You know, those who say, "they won't fire me no matter what, I don't got to do nothing."



posted on May, 8 2010 @ 08:11 PM
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you know i almost feel this way about black people(oh im sorry is that too controversial for you?) I mean i always thought before, there must be decent black people out there, until i met a few that seem decent on the outside and not arrogant and ebony like others, but see, once you get a black person mad enough, the n word always comes out in them. they start talkin black and being ignorant and super offencive. i still have to meet a black person whos not a n word. however i dont feel that way about hispanics. i guess im a racist too though.



posted on May, 8 2010 @ 08:13 PM
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lol your post reminds me of that south park episode where the cripples joined the crips and then united crips and bloods togetha at the pool party LOL



posted on May, 8 2010 @ 08:16 PM
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Ok, fair enough. Thank you for your reply. I do respect your view, but IMHO you are mistaken and intellectually dishonest.

You wrote:



We didn't come here to be Cuban-American, or Costa Rican American, or just strangers in a strange land. No, indeed, we came to be Americans.


Then I asked you to define "Americans" and you gave me the term "Natural Law".



An American is someone who believes in Natural Law.



That is pure BS since America and consequently the American Empire with all its tentacles is not based on that moral codex. This is why I mentioned the Native American saga. You dismissed it as not relevant ...



posted on May, 8 2010 @ 08:21 PM
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Top of your post you forgot to mention "sarcasm ahead" LOL.



posted on May, 8 2010 @ 08:29 PM
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Originally posted by ponyboyats
you know i almost feel this way about black people(oh im sorry is that too controversial for you?) I mean i always thought before, there must be decent black people out there, until i met a few that seem decent on the outside and not arrogant and ebony like others, but see, once you get a black person mad enough, the n word always comes out in them. they start talkin black and being ignorant and super offencive. i still have to meet a black person whos not a n word. however i dont feel that way about hispanics. i guess im a racist too though.


Yes, I would guess that you are a racist.

I have met many white people that I would not like to associate myself with. I also have been proud to call myself friends with people of different races.



posted on May, 8 2010 @ 08:31 PM
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Originally posted by beyondsense
reply to post by LaMadameDuval
 


Exactly. What some of the people posting here don't understand is that people are people no matter where they come from. Same genome, forget Mexican, Irish, African, people are people.

Peace


Yes people are people. Can't argue with that. It doesn't matter what color a person is or where they are from, but we are a country of laws that must be followed to allow for the safety and well-being of its' citizens. By allowing illegal's, you are allowing anyone to just waltz in.

We have mixed cultures here and appreciate that. We do not however appreciate the bad apples that manipulate the system to get their own way and shove aside the people trying to come here legally and place themselves ahead of the line.

I know what it's like to barely make a living, to sacrifice and suffer. The way things are going now I may be facing that again when my life savings are depleted because of job loss and I'm off unemployment and have no decent medical coverage for myself or my disabled husband. He has to wait another year to get medicare or medicaid. Do you see us running to another country demanding rights? Do you see our poor people moving to another country not bothering to respect them enough to learn their language? Do you see our poor people sucking off their system in the millions and placing themselves before thosewho are immigrating legally? No. You do not.

All cultures have their good and bad people. All countries have laws to protect their people. America is broke, millions are jobless, we are seeing our country change with violence like never before, where our children and citizens are no longer safe. We have our poor and hungry who could have the jobs that some illegal has taken with their stolen identity. Shame on our government and all the people who have shoved their way ahead of those who actually respect our laws and come here the right way.

Many of the supposed 'poor' people have paid a lot of money to have false documents, stolen identities etc. Many of them have no intention of staying here or becoming legal even after years of being here. Once they make enough it's goodbye and thanks for the freebies and opportunities. What a slap in the face.



posted on May, 8 2010 @ 08:34 PM
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No, It is irrelevant to the current discussion. My answer was exactly what you asked me for, MY definition. If the answer is not to you liking, I'm sorry.



posted on May, 8 2010 @ 08:55 PM
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i was expecting a more hostile response but that'll do. thanks. maybe its because i work in the south, but i CANNOT hire black ppl. i've hired a few. i got crap stolen from my store, i got them burning up electronics while trying to hook em up. i have lots o problems with black employees. i did find one who is decent and is currently working with me. he's a friend of mine, but id still say he's not as good at what he does as my other employees who happen to be white/mexican/etc



posted on May, 8 2010 @ 08:58 PM
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It's always nice to see someone who isn't bashful about expressing even the "politically incorrect". Certainly "racism" qualifies. But, perhaps it would be good to take a step away from that term, since it's normally considered insulting or pejorative. You certainly shouldn't call yourself "racist", if you truly care about judging individuals as you say, in spite of being generally repulsed by the majority of those you come in contact with.

Another term that seems more accurate would be "racialist". A racialist is someone who simply acknowledges the reality that there are real "racial" differences (even if they do turn out to be more "cultural" when the microscope is put upon them). It is a term that combats the ludicrous notion that all are "the same", etc. Our collective experience, regardless of our heritage, disproves that silly notion. Of course there are racial differences, and cultural differences, and some really do matter in our lives.

One is reminded of that famous Chris Rock routine where he says he "hates 'n-word's." Of course, he's black, but it's not merely funny, he has a good point. He says he loves "black people", but he hates "'n-word's." And "'n-word's" are exactly what you think he's talking about! In other words, the black "sub-culture" that even many prominent blacks denounce as retrogressive, and unhealthy for their people.

So, I personally think it is healthy to acknowledge these real, and meaningful differences, but we should all be careful not to go overboard, and allow ourselves to succumb to some kind of blind "hatred".

Many years ago, my brother and his high-school best buddy decided to drive down into Mexico, and I mean WAY down, as in all the way to Central America, and back. They were 18 years old, and Mama was pretty scared, she thought just about anything might happen to them! Here's what happened, in fact. They drove their little Datsun to town after town, and had no problems. The people were nice, although in some cases, quite curious. When they drove into a small town with people of seemingly Indian decent, all were courteous, but seemed to wonder what the heck two white boys were doing in their town.

Long story short, one day, their transmission dropped out, and it was late on Saturday. They were near a remote small village, and honestly, were a bit afraid, now that it looked like they would be spending the night! My brother told me that they came to a ramshackle house, and knocked at the door. A very humble man, and his wife welcomed them into their "home" (such as it was). They were total "gringo" outsiders, and yet they were given warm blankets, a meal, and the next day (a Sunday), this Mexican found the local mechanic, and got him to work on their car.

Before they left, they asked these Mexicans what they could do for them? They answered that it had been a long time since they had toothpaste (!) Needless to say, my brother and his friend sent them quite a "care" package when they got back to the States. Bottom line, they went thousands of miles, and after meeting the "real" people, came away changed.

I might suggest that the Mexicans who come here and find themselves in gangs, or behave in typical "ghetto" fashion, might not be representative of their people. The Hispanic culture is diverse, and may have much good to offer, but there are bad elements too, and they can be exaggerated when many of them find themselves in a foreign land.

No, I don't want to make "excuses" for Latinos behaving badly. And anyone who wants to sugar-coat the harsh Mexican gang situation isn't helping either. But I do wonder sometimes if our common "masters", the elite, laugh at what they have engineered for us. Of course we hate each other! Stupid immigration policies have made sure that we experience exactly what we are seeing.

As usual, when we begin fighting amongst ourselves, we should ask: Who gains?

JR MacBeth
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posted on May, 8 2010 @ 09:00 PM
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posted on May, 8 2010 @ 09:16 PM
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Excellent post. When I was 18, I could see myself doing exactly what your brother did. I'd like to think that the people that were such courteous hosts were the same type coming into the country. However, I can't see someone that hospitable not trying to adapt.

Despite my inner feelings for those hispanics I see here in the US, the through of the family in Mexico you mentioned does invoke some degree of compassion. I pity the poor, the hungry, the downtrodden in other countries, even those Americans here. I just wish that instead of contributing to the dowsing down of the light of freedom, that should be inspiring other in the world to emulate or legally immigrate, they would partake in that system here or abroad.



posted on May, 8 2010 @ 09:18 PM
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Originally posted by Wolf321
In the USA, no second language is or should be ‘useful.’ English is the language that all business should be conducted in. If a job sends a worker out of the US, the they should train their employees in the necessary language.



So every song performed in this country must be done in English? All the opera must be done in English? Really, you ever heard an English Wagner? Sounds like crap. All the doctors/scientists should stop using their Latin terms right now!

Renee! No more German for you!

Which would be a crying shame considering how wonderful she has become at singing Strauss.



This influx of illegals is directly related to the loss of local heritage. Your right that French is not very practical on a daily basis in the US. However, a secondary language is not taught in primary and secondary schools for its practicality, but for the mental/educational value of understanding a second language. I think maintaining a cultural connection to the origins of an area are best served in this manner. In some places, that may be Spanish. Here, its French. Or at least it was.


No, I think there should be a choice. No culture should be forced on another. Your examples of going into Wal-mart are not examples of culture being forced onto you. You don't have to buy that food or music. You don't have to speak their language. Did you hate the people I linked? Cause they are of "Mexican" background too. They did great things. Why don't you keep being a racist though? Spit in the eye of all those Hispanics who fought for this country and helped make it into something great. I'm sure it will help expand your worldview. You'll meet great friends and learn a lot about humanity.




posted on May, 8 2010 @ 09:22 PM
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Originally posted by ponyboyats
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i was expecting a more hostile response but that'll do. thanks. maybe its because i work in the south, but i CANNOT hire black ppl. i've hired a few. i got crap stolen from my store, i got them burning up electronics while trying to hook em up. i have lots o problems with black employees. i did find one who is decent and is currently working with me. he's a friend of mine, but id still say he's not as good at what he does as my other employees who happen to be white/mexican/etc


I have spent most my life in the southeast and I know what you are talking about, but I think it is important to understand that everyone has there own demons and issues to deal with. I think we can all agree that a good percentage of blacks are in the South are born in near poverty level conditions that is hard to overcome no matter what your race is.



posted on May, 8 2010 @ 09:30 PM
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Your attempt to transpose my belief that if only one language is taught in a school it should be to preserve that areas local heritage, into people should not learn other languages and music and opera should only be in English is amusing. Do you really believe/see it that way or are you just trying to be funny?

Culture should not be forced, but if it (as in a second language) is required, it should support local heritage, not import another in its place.

Do I hate the people you gave as examples, certainly not. The astronaut, I wouldn't conceive him to be an immigrant of any sort by seeing him on the street. As for the MoH guy, out of uniform, I likely would have the feelings I mentioned in my opening, but it would not cause me to treat him any different.

I think all those hispanics who come here and abuse the system, do more to spit in the eye of the (hispanic) Americans who have fought and died for this country than anything I have ever done. In fact, if they were alive today, I would bet they would be more than happy to volunteer to guard the border to keep such people out.

edit: btw, I love a good opera.

[edit on 8-5-2010 by Wolf321]



posted on May, 8 2010 @ 09:30 PM
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You're right, there are good people from Mexico and it is a shame that they are seen in a bad light because of the bad apples that have come here. Same with illegals from other countries that have come here. It saddens me that governments are corrupt and don't look after their people. Instead we are pitted against each other. I don't know what the solution is or how this will ever be resolved. If only things could be simplified and there was actually peace in the world. Sadly, though we are all the same in some ways, yet so very different in others, even amongst our own races. Maybe some day we will be evolved enough to see beyond differences though I don't see that happening any time soon.



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