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Originally posted by network dude
reply to post by Goethe
hey. unless you have an open mind, why don't you leave this thread.
see, it sounds rude when I say it too.
how about you answer this :
Originally posted by network dude
HERE IS THE PROOF!!!
since chemmies believe that chemtrails are new (early 70s) and they are evil and going to kill us all, please click on the link provided and put in your country. then explain to me again, what the problem is.
Originally posted by Chadwickus
reply to post by AllSeeingI
Thanks goes to your fellow chemtrailer Northwarden for giving us a very interesting website.
www.asp.bnl.gov...
He believes these guys are chemtrailers...
What they are in fact, are a group who fly up in the air and collect air samples.
Sounds just like what you're describing!
Gulfstream-1 Research Aircraft
The G-1 is a large twin turboprop with performance characteristics of contemporary production aircraft. It is capable of measurements to altitudes approaching 30,000 feet over ranges of 1500 nautical miles, and can be operated at speeds that enable both relatively slow sampling and rapid deployment to field sites throughout the world. The aircraft is configured for versatile research applications. It accommodates a variety of external probes for aerosol, radiation, and turbulence measurements and internal sampling systems for a wide range of measurements. The G-1 has sufficient cabin volume, electrical power and payload capabilities, and flight characteristics to accommodate a variety of instrument systems and experimental equipment configurations. Internal instrumentation is mounted in removable racks to enable rapid reconfiguration as necessary. Data from most systems are acquired on a central computer that is tailored to airborne research data acquisition. In addition to acquiring the various analog and digital input signals, it can be configured to communicate with and/or control other systems onboard, and to provide time synchronization to other computers.
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This site proves two points too...
The first is that most chemtrailers are idiots who can't read their own sources and second, that there is equipment and resources out there capable of testing, thus debunking chemtrails.
Originally posted by Goethe
See, I go by this, If I can see it with my own eyes, Ill give something some credit. But when someone only has insults lt shows they have nothing to add.
Most people alive today could live to see this extinction take place. This means that an announcement of the situation we face boils down to telling every man, woman and child on earth that they have no future, they are going to be killed. People would panic.
"The common enemy of humanity is man. In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill. All these dangers are caused by human intervention, and it is only through changed attitudes and behavior that they can be overcome. The real enemy then, is humanity itself."
Alexander King Co-Founder of the Club of Rome, (premier environmental think-tank and consultants to the United Nations) from his 1991 book The First Global Revolution
"We need to get some broad based support, to capture the public's imagination... So we have to offer up scary scenarios, make simplified, dramatic statements and make little mention of any doubts... Each of us has to decide what the right balance is between being effective and being honest."
Prof. Stephen Schneider, Stanford Professor of Biology and Global Change. Professor Schneider was among the earliest and most vocal proponents of man-made global warming and a lead author of many IPCC reports. He is a member of the Club of Rome.
"We've got to ride this global warming issue. Even if the theory of global warming is wrong, we will be doing the right thing in terms of economic and environmental policy."
Timothy Wirth, President of the UN Foundation and member of the Club of Rome.
Originally posted by Chadwickus
Originally posted by Goethe
See, I go by this, If I can see it with my own eyes, Ill give something some credit. But when someone only has insults lt shows they have nothing to add.
That's because you only see what you want to see.
I have a lot to add but you choose to concentrate on the negatives and ignore the rest.
Thus proving my point.
Originally posted by Essan
Northwarden & Goethe:
A simple question to resolve this:
What do you think chemtrails are and how can they be identified?
Until we have a falsifiable hypothesis there is no point for this thread.
Set out your stall and then we may have a case for discussion.
Prove to us you have more to offer than white mice
Originally posted by DreamerOracle
I'd suggest a study by us all.....visual atleast......Do we all have cameras?
Collect film from the start of Chem activity to its blanket completion. We could atleast mark temperatures for the days of chem activity to days when there is none also other anomalies you may witness like extra aircraft activity as I mention in previous posts. Sounds like a good idea, the last time we had Chems was in Febuary but I do keep my eyes open and my camera handy just incase.
So a thread Field Project..........what do you think? 1 weeks worth of data or 1 month:
1.chem footage.
2.temperatures say every 4 hours through the day.
3.Weather conditions.
Just an idea?
[edit on 9-5-2010 by DreamerOracle]
Originally posted by Chadwickus
reply to post by Northwarden
What are you suggesting?
That there are several pages documenting all of the specifications of these spraying aircraft, including tank capacities and the like, yet they decided to deflect the truth by saying they spray at 100 feet instead of 25,000 feet?
Why even release ANY information at all?
Originally posted by Goethe
Some of the articles and patents I linked describe these particles as being used to absorb radiation from the earth. I guess to trap or release heat of the earth.
Originally posted by Essan
Originally posted by Goethe
Some of the articles and patents I linked describe these particles as being used to absorb radiation from the earth. I guess to trap or release heat of the earth.
Fine. But do any of those patents describe something which appears and acts exactly like normal aircraft contrails, as observed and studied for over 60 year years?
Chemtrails may exist.
But you have absolutely no evidence that what you claim to be chemtrails (photos etc) are anything but normal contrails.
That's the issue
The implementation of nanotechnology in using aluminum nanoparticles, which have a diameter of about 80 nanometers, or billionths of a meter, is key to the propellant's performance. These nanoparticles combust more aggressively than larger particles and enable better control over the reaction and the rocket's thrust; better yet, it is considered a green propellant, since its exhaust is mainly hydrogen gas and aluminum oxide, which are not harmful to the environment.
Biofuels can lower life cycle carbon dioxide emissions relative to conventional petroleum-derived jet fuels, lowering the carbon footprint of aviation and therefore improve local air quality around airports