Why are International Students(non-citizens) Allowed to Vote In UK election? (turns out they were co, page
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reply posted on 7-5-2010 @ 12:51 PM by asd10
reply to post by tigpoppa



haha why does this not surprise me. The UK has so much to learn about democracy and how it works. America is the country that fought and died to invent democracy for the world. Its no wonder that the carbon copies are a lesser form of true freedom then we experience here on a daily basis.


No.

Ancient Greece invented democracy in the form we know it today, and the USA was based on the principles of English democracy. Although it turned out very different.

However I do agree the democracy here is an illusion


reply posted on 7-3-2012 @ 05:19 AM by TheEconomist
First and foremost, i read blogs, articles and educative literatures online, but I never contribute to these chats, blogs etc. Because I believe majority of these sites are filled with uneducated, misinformed egoistic people. I was actual researching something when I stumbled across this website (Especially this thread- Why are International Students(non-citizens) Allowed to Vote In UK election? (turns out they were co]) . So I decided to join specifically to enlighten the instigator of this topic and some other people that also contributed ignorantly to the topic.
Ok, my first point- My perception of this website or forum is that it is GOOD, RESPECTABLE & ASIPIRING TO BE GREAT. (I LOVE the slogan “DENY IGONORANCE”). I think it is about time the author of this topic to paid attention to this SLOGAN.

My second point- Highlighting your quote “Why should people who are not citizens, are only in the country for 3 or so years, have the same democratic rights as British citizens? ”. You sounded so ignorant and naïve because if you knew the rules, regulations and law that governs the United Kingdom. You would have gone to the right source to get the right information. For example you would have gone to the officially UK government website to see who was eligible to vote. Just to help you out here:
www.aboutmyvote.co.uk... , you would have learnt that some international students are ELIGIBLE to vote especially if they are resident in the UK and are from the COMMONWEALTH countries. They might not be a citizen of United Kingdom they are effectively a citizen of the COMMONWEALTH COUNTY. A resident is someone that presumed to live in a county and pay taxes. If they leave in this county they would pay various taxes from road tax to capital gains tax (For those doing business while studying in the UK). So they have the right to choose whoever would favour their political persuasions.

My Third point if you were aware of the influence of the CROWN and the BRITISH EMPIRE as a whole. You will not come up with such statements. Just to further enrich your political knowledge on Commonwealth- The Commonwealth of Nations, normally referred to as the Commonwealth and formerly known as the British Commonwealth, is an intergovernmental organisation of fifty-four independent member states. All but two of these countries (Mozambique and Rwanda) were formerly part of theBritish Empire, out of which it developed. The member states cooperate within a framework of common values and goals as outlined in the Singapore Declaration. These include the promotion of democracy, human rights, good governance, the rule of law, individual liberty, egalitarianism, free trade, multilateralism, and world peace. The Commonwealth is not a political union, but an intergovernmental organisation through which countries with diverse social, political, and economic backgrounds are regarded as equal in status. (en.wikipedia.org...).

My final point- Also addressing your quote “Especially when they will not have to live with the decisions they make and they will be much less likely to care. “ If you fully understand the definition of “Commonwealth” then you will know that some decisions they make in the UK will definitely affect them in their home country. In terms of, free trade, world peace and other important issues. As you are aware both LABOUR PARTY and CONSERVATIVE PARTY have different views on these issues. Voting for a particular party does not have to revolve round tuition fees.

I would also highlight your naïve quote “Another major problem with this, and the probable reason why they are allowed to vote, is that they vote for the party with the best tuition fees policy, namely Labour. ” Just for the record, the tuition fee policies does not affect international student because they pay a fixed and steep tuition fee. Averaging between £8000 to £15000 a year, contributing to the BRITISH economy. The tuition fee debate and policy only relates to home students. So get your FACTS right. Rather than getting angry. Get to work do your homework and learn about United Kingdom.


reply posted on 11-3-2012 @ 06:45 AM by UngoodWatermelon
reply to post by Laurauk



That isn't true, Commonwealth and Irish Republic citizens (although the latter must reside in the UK) may also vote in UK elections.
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