Tesla, is his ether bunk

reply to post by stealthyaroura


I think a small coil of thin wire might make a wireless power
transmitter for your blackberry instead of plugging in to a
wire recharger. I'm at home going on the net and the battery
runs down every day. That would be a nice niche product with
overwhelming growth.
Not good if the transmitter starts sparking though.
I'm not into tinkering with coils but the proposal of the idea
can't be that unknown so the government wants magnetic
coupling and no electric coupling.

Radio is a one way flow and the flow was determined at lower
frequency from a special coil setup by Tesla in 1892 and told
everyone about it.

The new form might be cosmic and involve his half sphere bulb.

Over unity devices might be in that Los Alamos Library basement.
Reading O'Neill about Tesla said he always had a working model.
For the complete Polyphase network and radio demo of remote
control in Madison Square Gardens. That might be relaxed now
for patent applications.

Zero point, ether, might have something to do with gases and
their activity which might help in overunity. The Papp engine
ran on noble gases. Atmospheric hydrogen can be separated and
allowed to recombine giving off more heat. But my desk light
gas bulb had a hot transformer in the base and wonder if the
40 watt bulb is any savings at all. Tesla lit his gas tube with his
electrostatic pulsed ( its one way but the DC label of Tesla and
Lyne would be a new definition perhaps) and that is not done
today. The Tesla method does seem to only end up in his flier
as the only use so far. But gives us enjoyment at the many
videos taken of unknown fliers.

I saw a back emf motor video demo but I still think pulse drive
might have more promise to achieve overunity performance.

Originally posted by crimson tears shini
these theories on ether are interesting.

my thought on the Tesla hammer vibration device is that the building materials and methods in 1890 when he was testing his device (not sure if he actually tested it in the year 1890 but i'm sure i will be corrected as to the accurate date.). i think this is a very big factor in the effects of the device not to say that correctly tuned and enhanced it could possibly do damage to todays structures that is.

That mechanical vibrator incident is interesting.
There is a theory that the ether is electrostaticly sensitive and is
moved and moves as a sound wave developing its own pressure.
This was given examples by Tesla.

By developing the electrostatic waves given off by the coil into
the ether, the lift of the Foo was accomplished but what about
developing the pressure wave aspect into a vibration wave.

Was Tesla developing a force ray or just seeing what might happen
with a mechanical device. Or what ran this device, batteries or
wind up or gas pressure in an overunity configuration.

reply to post by TeslaandLyne


I always enjoy your perspective on threads especially
when it comes to Tesla.

What is your take on the Tunguska event?
I will always side with the possibilities that this was
Tesla's doing albeit maybe a miscalculation.

theory has shown that a massive transfer of scalar
wave propagation can result in an explosion
similar to a nuclear blast.

have you read any of Tom Bearden's work on scalar waves?
these weapons exist and Tesla was the man who had the vision
and potential to develop this kind of weapon.

reply to post by stealthyaroura


William R. Lyne did more research on Tesla that I would consider
non dis info and do not recall his take on Tunguska.

Yeah there are stories but nothing from Tesla except he could
beam power to the planets.

I wonder if any top secret work was done in that regard.
Yet who is gong to the moon or mars to even use the power sent
by Tesla. If you get my drift.

What have you heard, any body?
Nada.
With all the great scientific discoveries announced every day
you would think a road map to how to accomplish anything would
be announced but Tesla had better planning than 1000 Illuminati.

If Tesla had a Ray to Illuminati the skies AS HE SAID HE WOULD
DO, perhaps the LYNE HYDROGEN effect might have been the
non Relativistic reaction in the atmosphere that surprised even Tesla.
Tesla made rarefied gases illuminate even air and thought that
would be the atmospheric response to his TESLA ETHER SOUND
WAVES. The heating of the Lyne hydrogen furnace depends on
1000x the input heat as he discovered the Langmuir process.
Thus the Tunguska explosion might be another confusing natural
event related to the science of Tesla and of suppressed processes
of the Relativists as Lyne might add.

ED: At Colorado Springs a great lightning bolt flashed and Tesla
said that in under 60sec a huge blast of air would test the building.
My neighbor was outside drying a rug and a great thunder was
far away as I saw dark skies elsewhere. I went over to talk and
and he said did you hear the thunder. All of a sudden a great wind
hit and the trees were waving back and forth. Was this an electricity
to ether to pressure reaction. No rain, so without dark rain clouds
over head I suppose the rug dried but I went back inside.


[edit on 7/5/2010 by TeslaandLyne]

Langmuir and the atomic hydrogen process for over unity

I put Lyne in the search to avoid the latest outcropping of dis info
by overload of info we don't need.
Langmuir also was honed by the illuminati into the science of something
he knows nothing about then says the Tesla flying machine did not exist.
He might even have denounced his own discovery.
Surely there are many others that must do so now.

Well the hot tungsten filament became the initial vexing study that
Langmuir continued to find why the filament out gassed so much.
Tesla did quite a lot of vacuum work years before.
Langmuir found it was the glass that was out gassing as the vacuum
was increased and not the tungsten.
Duh.

Tesla worked on the ether pressure vacuum method, all electrical,
that must be top secret or just not allowed to be constructed.
Tesla reasoned that something was bouncing up against the walls
of his evacuated tubes and illuminating which was water vapor as
Langmuir found out. The same water vapor bouncing up against
the Tesla aircraft no doubt.

There are a lot of Tesla publications here:
www.tesla.hu...
at bottom of the page.

There is a statement about radiation levels outside of Earth's atmosphere.
Tesla said one needs to make two measurements and by math such as for
air pressure I suppose deduce the level outside the Earth.

He said making continued measurements is useless time consuming endeavors and
that the concentration should be on the many energy devices from the atmosphere.

Colorado Springs if a mile high might be good enough for one measurement.
And sea level by a shore good enough for another cosmic radiation measurement.
I spotted the 36" of lead protection provided by the Earth's atmosphere statement
by Tesla reiterated on the net recently and now I find the topic swarmed by nothing
but concerned pages without data.

I doubt NASA would confirm any data as mostly likely they are still measuring outer
space radiation as the Tesla statement is one of the contentions against the Moon
Landing. Would you fly into space after hearing the necessary data if 36" of lead
were required for your protection.

Tesla found a lot more than ether and thats the problem with Tesla and others who
shall not be named by anti Tesla agents like Bill Lyne who find Tesla's work a rewarding
knowledge base from the nothingness toled out by the cartel run technology and
science of today.

It's pretty much bunk but people trreat him like a demi-god who could do no wrong.

The Physics forums think there is continued ether theory going on and I'd have
to say there is a great effort being made in weaponry with the ether.

Under the names of laser and quantum there lurks the discoveries of Tesla and there
is no escape. I too am fed up with stereotypical labels tacked on Tesla like being
around before his time. Is that some sort of Einstein trick he played in his lab.
These people just never give an example or reason.
What is happening are Tesla discoveries discussed perhaps with a name drop
but not actually telling the entire story.

This is an actual generator:
www.rexresearch.com...
The K-Capture Generator used a UV lamp.

The ultra-violet burst is produced with a nitrogen laser.

Later on explained as just a spark in a tube of nitrogen.

No need to say Tesla made Radium for the same purpose as one might
say say Whaa. We are picking up the crumbs of science left by Tesla.

I'd say his science just about wraps it up till the end of time.

From the latest information in Occult Physics by Lyne there is gap to free energy
that will never be crossed. The 50X speed of light particles generated by our universe
of stars via violent explosions are the source of free energy. Thus no free energy for
you Einstein.

The particles perhaps neutrinos from billions upon billions of K Capture events are
thus transformed into heat or electrical generators with the right transformers.

Tesla is assumed to have made a number of transformers of the free energy including
a space motor, using voltage as if the induction motor was a baby step, and direct
electrical generator. Lyne has managed to find a few and fashioned a mini Nitrogen
burner in an offshoot research on the iron pipe the powered the Tesla car in Canada.
Some thing to do with the K Capture voltage in iron. It never goes far from the principles
does it.

reply to post by TeslaandLyne


Tesla was about 10,000 times smarter than anyone else since, exception for boris sidis. Nothing he said should be dismissed as bunk. No one is infallible, but anything he said should be seriously considered.

I am a fan of Teslas work however I cant say I’m a fan of Lyne, basically most of the stuff Lyne attributes to tesla tesla never actually said for example the Idea that high voltage could make ether solid. I don’t think Tesla himself would agree with that idea.

Maybe you should make a thread entitled is Lynes ether theory bunk…to which I and I suspect others would answer yes!

Tesla said whatever Lyne said Tesla said.
Look for the Tesla words that make wiping boys out of the agents who wish to destroy free energy. I shall not point out the location in accordance with Lyne not giving agents a reason to wipe the face of the Earth clean of Tesla.

How does a solid make the Tesla space motor work.
Solid air is probably a good way to think of levitation of two plates in the FBI files.
Instead of a solid book under the plate the space was made solid.
It must be reading comprehension that is lacking.

Something is done to the fine particles of life and its done with high frequency voltage
oscillations that make sound pressure waves resulting in a force. So much force we
can't be told. Also 50 times the speed of light particles is another wipe out for the
agents and the true source of free energy and more Tesla they don't tell us.

I don’t agree I know teslas works and I know that there are many things Lyne said tesla said which he certainly did not say.

The whole basis of Lynes proposed UFO propulsion system is an example…where did tesla say that two pancake coils could be used to produce levitation, where did tesla say that ether can be made solid via high voltage…show me teslas original quotes stating or eluding to these statements.

Lyne is an electrical engineer, do you not think it is strange that he has not produced a scale model to prove the concept, he is an engineer so he has the technical skill to do so.

Personally I think that a propulsion system based on Lynes approach wont get off the ground. Might produce sparks and glowing air like a tesla coil would but that’s about all.

reply to post by LUXUS


Lyne said the Tesla system has been verified in the vertical assent.
Thus any one can prove it for themselves.
Too bad CIA or Cartel agents acting on behalf of the 1% of the 1% need to destroy
existing information cause direct pointing out things by Tesla is locked away.
Understand.
You need the 1/2 solid metal sphere "Tesla bulb" for the horizontal "rope"

Here is what we know from Tesla: his ship is suspended in the vertical by a virtual rope
and pulled forward or to the back by the virtual rope.

Based on Tesla's main project being his ship and the big fuss he made about the flat coil
as his most famous picture that would be the space motor. So Lyne wouldn't have too
difficult a time going from induction motor to space motor.

I have an update on the ether, which is a transmitter or carrier of energy, and the
Kinetic Energy (KE) that awaits our recovery from the Tesla discovery of fifty
times the speed of light particles going through the ether. The KE is available
in the same amount even at night and is not dependent on sun shine.

In discussion with Lyne on the E-Cat over unity generator he says his Atomic Hydrogen
Furnace will generate steam suitable to running turbines to generate electricity as opposed
to any heat developed by the E-Cat system. That as it is I decided to put in the Tesla
Primary Solar Rays Lyne mentions as the Tesla energy source for free energy.

Lyne's Atomic Hydrogen Furnace:
H2 + 103 cal/mole => 2H + KE from Tesla's 50X SOL particles => H2 + 109,000 cal/ mole

So there it is the one discovery of thermal transfer.
We have yet to uncover the Tesla Earth Wave generator using liquid air or seen any
thing levitated with the Tesla wave system or given horizontal force by the solid
metal 1/2 sphere for the free energy Tesla ship. Direct to electricity and direct to
force has escaped us at least for now but can't be far away.

Originally posted by LUXUS
I don’t agree I know teslas works and I know that there are many things Lyne said tesla said which he certainly did not say.

The whole basis of Lynes proposed UFO propulsion system is an example…where did tesla say that two pancake coils could be used to produce levitation, where did tesla say that ether can be made solid via high voltage…show me teslas original quotes stating or eluding to these statements.

Lyne is an electrical engineer, do you not think it is strange that he has not produced a scale model to prove the concept, he is an engineer so he has the technical skill to do so.

Personally I think that a propulsion system based on Lynes approach wont get off the ground. Might produce sparks and glowing air like a tesla coil would but that’s about all.

www.scribd.com...

Find a good ebook or hard copy as brush is mentioned 44 times at last count and medium
perhaps 12 then look for rigid and ether and flame as Lyne points out Tesla puts great
importance in the brush. The brush is also made by capacitor Earth as Aurora when
Sun transfers momentum to the Earth. Thus a coil operation in a metal ship in brush
mode will have instant momentum transfer and give 300 miles per second.
pritchardschool.com...
See there 300 miles per second among Tesla statements 12/8/1915.
The brush is tuned AC which pushes one way like radio escapes from an antenna.

Re: teslaandlyne misinformation regarding Lyne:
Lyne is NOT an electrical engineer. He is a writer, researcher, artist, and inventor. Some of his engineer friends call him an engineer.
In regard to Tesla's statement "the medium filling 'THE' space", Tesla apparently meant ALL SPACE, since we already know that on earth, we already know that the air is the "other" stuff filling the atmosphere, so there is no mystery about that. And besides, you can't get any more "THE" than "ALL". Tesla certainly wasn't talking about the atmosphere or "the air" here, or else he would have said so..
In "Flunking the Debunker" on Scribd.com, Lyne addresses a nut who actually believes that Tesla was talking about the air! That guy claims to be an electrical engineer, and Tesla said the best of electrical engineers would not understand the 'production of D.C. from A.C. without a commutator' by use of one-quarter wavelength of a Tesla coil excited by electrostatic inductance at high frequency. If "bob dee" is an electrical engineer, his ignorance is excused. If he isn't an electrical engineer, then he is being untruthful. At lower frequency you get A.C. (note here that there is a difference between electrostatic inductance and electromagnetic inductance and ask yourself if you know the difference)
You can't answer questions about Tesla's advanced work with traditional physics or electrical engineering principles, and those who attempt to apply those principles only show their ignorance..

Well here is where the medium of space come into play and how space pulls the Teslaship.
I just happened by after posting a bunch of Lyne links.

Tesla considered the medium (ether) full of plus and minus charges.
Air atoms have big positive nucleus and speedy electron minus charge.
Is there more between the atoms I don't know but according to Tesla space reacted
to his electrical pulses or oscillations like charges in an insulating liquid meaning he
needed high voltage to get a response.

Alternating space with high voltage the negative charge was quick to attach to the
positive voltage. At some point or frequency the rotation or movement stops and
points all possible negative charge at his vehicle. This I assume is what Tesla
said would pull his ship upward and to the side. Actually one engine for lift that
is tapped for side movement.

Lyne links:
lyne debunker

scribd lyne

this looks like something new
Lyne comments that it was hacked.
Ed: page is readable now.. he tell the UT story

BEWARE-OF-ANTITESLA-HECKLERS
this will find it
lyne hecklers

lyne scribd page

ED: let me add this link
www.abovetopsecret.com...
and put a text here:

Popular guy among anti Tesla crowd and many profess to be Tesla experts.
Lyne has a great ability to just about quote Tesla on his science and tics off people.

I don't know a lot about electricity, and that's why I wish Mr Tesla's work hadn't been so complicated. From what I've been able to understand of it, I think he did succeed in inventing something which could have solved our energy problem, and I've wished for a couple of years now, that I had the necessary electrical understanding to be able to implement it; even just for myself, if nobody else wants it or thinks it is real.

I don't know enough though, and I don't really know where to begin.