Originally posted by Jenna

• Women are incapable of understanding an issue so complex as the one being discussed;
  
• They should stick to neutral topics where they will be better capable of contributing;
  
• Men in a group will each speak their own mind, women in a group will just develop mind-think and agree with the majority because they have no individual opinions;
  
• Women cannot have an independent/rational/correct thought without first having it explained to them by a man;
  
• Claims of sexism are unfounded because women irrationally believe that everything is a conspiracy against them.
  

1) My wife can understand every issue on ATS fully, I believe.
2) She contributes to topics like Physics, Astronomy, Secret Societies, NWO, Politics, etc etc.
3)My wife typically criticizes the opinions of other females as juvenile, drama-queen oriented, waste of space, meaningless garbage. Again, she does recognize and debate with intelligent females, but we do have some at ATS that fit the negative stereotype very well.
4)Hmm I think my wife has taught me a few intelligent tricks in the past few years, even about conspiracies etc.
5) I have never seen my wife claim sexism actually...I guess her brain is too complex to even waste time on crap like that

I want the OP to admit we have a few drama-queens around here who are simple minded and lack any intellectual abilities.

They base their entire ATS experience on flirting, collecting "friends", and taking part in small-talk exclusively.

I can think of only 2 people in particular actually. I won't mention their names to be a nice person about it.

The 95%+ rest of the females here come off as intelligent, well spoken, well read, and very interesting people to discuss any issue with.

But those 2 chicks that base their entire ATS experience on being a typical 16yr old drama-queen; those people fit the stereotypes perfectly. And they are super popular around here too.

Perhaps the desire for them to be "popular" is what gives women in general a bad name. The idiots are so visible and out in the open begging for attention. And I mean begging.

I am open to the possibility that these 2 "people" are actually males disguised as females, just to be weird and get attention from guys. I am totally open to that possibility. lol

I have met many women smarter than myself and am man enough to admit it...
That being said, did you catch the new episode of Real Housewives of New Jersey?

I sure hope there ARE differences in how males and females think. We dont compete in the Olympics against each other because of physical differences, we have different body parts and different chemicals coursing through our veins. The experience of being a women is different from the experience of being a man......and in some situations/subjects that will make some people more capable of discussing them on a certain level. It is always going to depend on the wiring in your brain. If you are wired to have sex with as many women as possible (even if you do have layers of 'learnt' behaviour masking it) then you are going to process information differently than someone who is programmed to search out the most intelligent/most macho alpha male.

Then there are ugly women who have to make do with whatever male they can get whilst coveting better looking/more intelligent ones- Thats gonna effect how and what they think about (and in turn the originality of their thread subjects)

Or good looking, well proportioned males who just go out and get as much as they can get away with- they think differently. (And yes, of course there are some who 'control' their inbuilt programming to do this)

When it comes to experiencing the world as either one gender or the other then some people are going to have more 'original' thoughts than others.

BTW, although this is an interesting subject, it is a very old subject therefore making the originality of this thread errrr. unoriginal. I'd say it was quite a feminine thread as it goes over old ground in a very womanly way (eg it tries to empower females a little but highlights the impression that females need empowering....from the OP's point of view)

Originally posted by muzzleflash
I want the OP to admit we have a few drama-queens around here who are simple minded and lack any intellectual abilities.

They base their entire ATS experience on flirting, collecting "friends", and taking part in small-talk exclusively.

I can think of only 2 people in particular actually. I won't mention their names to be a nice person about it.

The 95%+ rest of the females here come off as intelligent, well spoken, well read, and very interesting people to discuss any issue with.

But those 2 chicks that base their entire ATS experience on being a typical 16yr old drama-queen; those people fit the stereotypes perfectly. And they are super popular around here too.

Perhaps the desire for them to be "popular" is what gives women in general a bad name. The idiots are so visible and out in the open begging for attention. And I mean begging.

I am open to the possibility that these 2 "people" are actually males disguised as females, just to be weird and get attention from guys. I am totally open to that possibility. lol

OK FINE!!!

I confess Muzzelblast those two girls your taking about are both me.

I....

I just get a little lonely some times.

Mods just delete the two Drama queen troll accounts and get it over with, it was inevitable I supose.

Originally posted by Jenna

Originally posted by expatwhite

I agree for the most part it's almost completely gender neutral. That's one of the things I love about this site. That's part of what makes the whole thing so disconcerting when those comments are made.

Anyhow, I didn't mention earlier, my bias is actually that the female members are GENERALLY some of the best when it comes to substance. The fellows
probably use this gender tactic because they cannot engage you in a pissing contest
which is the most common way and sure fire to divert the course of a losing argument here.
In fact, now that I think of it, the gender slight is likely a substitute for the age old
male water sport. I think it can be some what empowering to understand this during debate as it might not be apparent, because girls don't see the necessity to whiz on things when they feel threatened

Originally posted by aboveandbeyond

To be honest, I’m surprised I wasn’t called a little girl and told to go back to playing with dolls because I don’t deserve to comment on ‘important matters’.

Actually I belie I have told you something of that nature before....

Oh now I remember I told you to change your avatar to something a bit more appropriate for the Internet.

Seriously it's a bit hard to take you seriously while having to look at a photo of you pointing at your crotch while I can't even tell if your wearing any underwear.

And you have this big smile on your face too lol. It looks like your saying "Look I have no pants on!"

I'm going to change my avatar to a cropped image of my pubic hairs and see how seriously you take me.

Originally posted by expatwhite
You should spend less time on here, the ironing will be really piling up and those dishes wont wash themselves.......

Ok OK already I'm on it! Er wait a minute....


The vast majority of the threads I choose to respond to depend on the quality of the posters be them male or females it does not matter. I've done battle with some females and have had some very articulate and highly educated female team mates. I like the varying points of views. I may not agree with them but I'll read and many times learn.

BTW Jenna and I have waged some fierce battles as team mates.

She is my respected friend.

PEACE

Slay

Originally posted by Exv8densez
Is it just a reflexion of current society or is it the frustrations and insecurities of those who bark the loudest when hidden behind a computer?

Both I think. Almost every advertisement you see reinforces the belief that a woman's place is in the home usually cooking or cleaning, while ads with men are more likely to show them in business suits outside the home.

I'm convinced that there are many people who'll rant and rave all day long when they're safe behind a screen name, but who aren't half so outspoken face to face. You can just leave a thread or close the browser here and no one knows who you are aside from your screen name. In person, it's harder to get away from an intense debate if you decide you don't want to discuss it anymore or if you need a break to collect your thoughts.

Originally posted by muzzleflash
I want the OP to admit we have a few drama-queens around here who are simple minded and lack any intellectual abilities.

They base their entire ATS experience on flirting, collecting "friends", and taking part in small-talk exclusively.

I actually don't know who you're referring to. You'd have to U2U me and fill me in before I could even attempt to make an informed comment on that. I won't deny the possibility of their existence or of that kind of behavior happening here though.

Originally posted by Jenna

Originally posted by Exv8densez
Is it just a reflexion of current society or is it the frustrations and insecurities of those who bark the loudest when hidden behind a computer?

Both I think. Almost every advertisement you see reinforces the belief that a woman's place is in the home usually cooking or cleaning, while ads with men are more likely to show them in business suits outside the home.

I'm convinced that there are many people who'll rant and rave all day long when they're safe behind a screen name, but who aren't half so outspoken face to face. You can just leave a thread or close the browser here and no one knows who you are aside from your screen name. In person, it's harder to get away from an intense debate if you decide you don't want to discuss it anymore or if you need a break to collect your thoughts.

This is why real attitude towards a subject/person often transpires on forums like this where people can operate with virtual impunity rather than facing real-life reactions. It is also staggering how easy it is for people to use their own preconceptions whenever it suits them while conveniently ignoring the problem when it does not.

Originally posted by aboveandbeyond


This is why real attitude towards a subject/person often transpires on forums like this where people can operate with virtual impunity rather than facing real-life reactions. It is also staggering how easy it is for people to use their own preconceptions whenever it suits them while conveniently ignoring the problem when it does not.

Totally agree, it is on forums that people are more able to be more truthful (and to some extents 'themselves') free from recriminations or finger pointing that they may get in real life.

It can be quite saddening at times, but that is the way of the world, we tend to keep our mouths shut when we think it will adversely effect our social status amongst our real life peers. (more so than our virtual life that is)

Originally posted by Wobbly Anomaly
I sure hope there ARE differences in how males and females think.

There are differences yes, but that doesn't mean that one gender is naturally less intelligent than the other or less capable of intelligent thought.

BTW, although this is an interesting subject, it is a very old subject therefore making the originality of this thread errrr. unoriginal. I'd say it was quite a feminine thread as it goes over old ground in a very womanly way (eg it tries to empower females a little but highlights the impression that females need empowering....from the OP's point of view)

Few threads here are completely original. It wasn't my intention to give off a "Yay! Girl Power!" vibe, thus the paragraph where I pointed out I don't buy in to pretty much any of the arguments typically voiced by feminists.