The Cover-up: BP's Crude Politics and the Looming Environmental Mega-Disaster

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posted on May, 6 2010 @ 11:20 PM
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I know that everything I have heard I will not be stopping by any BP stations anytime soon. This whole thing is not right. Everyone seems to always point the finger at someone else. Why doesnt someone take accountability?




posted on May, 6 2010 @ 11:55 PM
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After the oil rig exploded and sank, the government stated that 42,000 gallons per day was gushing from the seabed chasm. Five days later, the federal government upped the leakage to 210,000 gallons a day.
Did anyone notice that 42,000 x 5 = 210,000, and they upped the estimation 5 days later?

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posted on May, 7 2010 @ 12:04 AM
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You saw people standing around doing nothing? Just like when you go to a bank...

I do suspect a huge cover up as well as more 'seize the crisis' rahm style...that same one who ran the Clinton Presidency. It's going to suck.



posted on May, 7 2010 @ 12:25 AM
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Originally posted by CHA0S
Did anyone notice that 42,000 x 5 = 210,000, and they upped the estimation 5 days later?


Nice find, eerie coincidence. Wonder what it means...



posted on May, 7 2010 @ 03:26 AM
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If this is true it's time for you guys over there to stand up and be counted.... get yourselves over to Lousiana... if you live nearby... or get yourselves over to the White House.... protest!!

As well as there being mass problems for Wildlife and people in the area... you are saying (the report is saying) that there is no work being done and the leak hasn't been stopped (or part of it).

Would be good if we could get some live coverage from someone with a video camera...



posted on May, 7 2010 @ 03:45 AM
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The cover up could be something very big, rather than to avoid panic, or create calm..

The oil spill could be man made to recover something from deep depths of the sea..

I'm sure BP or any governmental agencies are not stupid enough to not take in to consideration such risks deep sea oil refineries..

It seemed like they had absolutely no pre-planning, in to what they would do if this type of 'supposed' accident happened.. But I suspect that is what they want us to think..

They are retrieving something..

Keep your eyes on that container.. Where it is gonna go, etc etc..



That container should be the main focus in order to expose a huge cover-up where people's lives were ended just to convince the masses..



posted on May, 7 2010 @ 04:03 AM
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Be good people. It might be the only thing you have left pretty soon...




???

What might be the only thing we have left pretty soon?



posted on May, 7 2010 @ 04:03 AM
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Be good people. It might be the only thing you have left pretty soon...




???

What might be the only thing we have left pretty soon?



posted on May, 7 2010 @ 05:32 AM
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Mathematically, the oil leaking from the oil volcano will have little effect on the Gulf and virtually no effect on the oceans of the world.

The worst affect will be on life in the immediate area around the leak.



posted on May, 7 2010 @ 06:04 AM
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Here's some sobering facts that we're done by a US Corps of Engineering guy that's a specialist in oil.

The video in full goes a littlle of the edge with the horn thing but the facts stated in the first 3 -5 mins is amazing.

www.youtube.com...



posted on May, 7 2010 @ 06:06 AM
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They should nuke that oil well before is too late...

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[edit on 7-5-2010 by 6205LH]



posted on May, 7 2010 @ 06:07 AM
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Originally posted by Zosynspiracy
I still have not hear one good god damn reason why they don't try to set off explosives down there to collapse this damn thing. I mean come one! One huge explosion pales in comparison as far as destruction of what will happen if this leak keeps spewing out oil. The greatest minds in the USA aka experts and they can't stop an oil leak in the ocean floor? Wow! Yet there is no cure for male pattern baldness yet either.


What exactly would that achieve? I can't fathom how trying to rupture the seafloor further would achieve anything (particularly as the oil formation is probably thousands of feet beneath the earths' crust)



posted on May, 7 2010 @ 06:14 AM
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Originally posted by noomy

Originally posted by drwolf
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They do have shaped charges that can cut the pipe and crimp it closed


Just a question, but couldn't they do this manually without explosives? I mean I've seen those little unmanned submarines and they have those "hands" that look basically like clamps. Hydraulics can push out a decent amount of crushing power.

Maybe the pipes are just so thick the only thing you can squish it with is explosives?

I just picture me pinching a straw, guess it's not that easy.


The pipes are extremely thick. The 'Blow-out-preventer' (ironic name in this case) which failed at the seabed would have had hydraulic shears in it which crush the pipe with an absolutely magnificent force (as some of that casing is up to inches thick). This is made even more difficult by the pressure inside the pipe.



posted on May, 7 2010 @ 06:17 AM
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Originally posted by noomy
Just a question, but couldn't they do this manually without explosives? I mean I've seen those little unmanned submarines and they have those "hands" that look basically like clamps. Hydraulics can push out a decent amount of crushing power.


I believe the reason why they cannot use the unmanned robotic hydraulic submarines is because of the pressure if you think of how much oil they say is gushing out of the well, (remember first of all it was 5 barrels a day then 20,100,1000 e.t.c) basically take the number they give you and multiply it by a hundred or in this case 1000 that will give you a good estimate of what they are trying to hide. If there is indeed that much oil coming out of the well then think how much pressure that is. The unmanned subs wouldnt be able to get in close enough to start any kind of operation.

The concrete construction is their last attempt before the inevitable.
Greed and corruption come at a price.



posted on May, 7 2010 @ 06:21 AM
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Originally posted by oozyism
The cover up could be something very big, rather than to avoid panic, or create calm..

The oil spill could be man made to recover something from deep depths of the sea..

I'm sure BP or any governmental agencies are not stupid enough to not take in to consideration such risks deep sea oil refineries..

It seemed like they had absolutely no pre-planning, in to what they would do if this type of 'supposed' accident happened.. But I suspect that is what they want us to think..

They are retrieving something..

Keep your eyes on that container.. Where it is gonna go, etc etc..



That container should be the main focus in order to expose a huge cover-up where people's lives were ended just to convince the masses..


I am fairly sure that this is one of those times where a bit of hesitance and skepticism is to be welcomed on ATS. The accident is fairly straightforward (and is by no means the first time this sort of thing has happened). Probably just some inexperienced toolpusher or driller who could not read the warning signs, coupled with some freak failure of the BOP.



posted on May, 7 2010 @ 07:05 AM
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"Other than the death of countless wildlife, how with this affect us in the states? We all know that, unless it affects the average American directly, none of us are going to get off our lazy butts and do anything and pretend everything is completely fine. "

Until Big Oil, Big Pham, and all the other Big Companies take the environmental impacts of THIER ACTIONS over the bottom line profits
nothing will change. Money, greed and power is thier god.

I think alot of people now more than ever do realize whats going on with the PTB at least when it comes to the Economy, Health Care and Oil Drilling but they feel (like I do) at a lost to how stand up for the corruption.
Its so pervasive now that I believe its all down hill from here.



posted on May, 7 2010 @ 07:07 AM
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This is what happens when you have a criminally insane shadow government of offshore bankers running the country. You can't vote them out of office. Could this have possibly been a false flag op gone bad? Haliburton has done little to establish themselves as reliable or responsible. Quoting article from original poster:

The Corps and Engineers and FEMA are quietly critical of the lack of support for quick action after the oil disaster by the Obama White House and the US Coast Guard. Only recently, has the Coast Guard understood the magnitude of the disaster, dispatching nearly 70 vessels to the affected area. WMR has also learned that inspections of off-shore rigs' shut-off valves by the Minerals Management Service during the Bush administration were merely rubber-stamp operations, resulting from criminal collusion between Halliburton and the Interior Department's service, and that the potential for similar disasters exists with the other 30,000 off-shore rigs that use the same shut-off valves.


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posted on May, 7 2010 @ 07:13 AM
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I am fairly sure that this is one of those times where a bit of hesitance and skepticism is to be welcomed on ATS. The accident is fairly straightforward (and is by no means the first time this sort of thing has happened). Probably just some inexperienced toolpusher or driller who could not read the warning signs, coupled with some freak failure of the BOP.

If you read my comment, it is not the accident I'm suspicious about but the after math.. They had absolutely no plan on how they would approach if such problem arises..

And as you stated it has already ha-penned before therefore you would expect them to have plans if it happens again..

I'm thinking a cover up, the container looks like a cover up lol.. But that is just thinking about it tooo much, if you know what I mean..

I want to know exactly how that 100 ton box is going to stop the oil.. i want to see the engineering behind it..



posted on May, 7 2010 @ 07:21 AM
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Exactly my sentiments. A 100 Ton box IMO will be like trying to put a bandaid on a Buffalo's ass.

Firstly with this kind of pressure coming up from the well. I wonder ifit will actually even be able to be placed at all. It all seems to me like they are screwed, glued and tacked to the wall.

The depth, the pressure and not having the ability to physically get down there makes it all seem just a display of "Look what we are doing to fix it" when deep down the know it will be a long time before that happens.



posted on May, 7 2010 @ 08:40 AM
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The pressure in the pipe is the biggest problem.

In pipes like Mid America Pipeline, if you get a pinhole in the pipeline the pressure is enough that the escaping gas can cut straight through human limbs. The pressure seen in this pipe is on the magnitude of 10X's what we pressurize massive above ground pipelines to.

The reason the oil isn't getting to shore is because of the abatement that is being done. They have burned off lots of it, already, and are directing it away from shore pretty well, apparently.

Using a nuke would be stupid. People who suggest such an act are the reason why we don't want Iran to have such power.

The Earth seeps upwards of 12,000 barrels of oil into the oceans every day. The system can deal with it, eventually. I don't think this will be the disaster everyone feared. The Earth has much, much bigger problems right now, for sure.

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