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Originally posted by IntastellaBurst
reply to post by novastrike81
Do you have to be christian to be born again ???
thats where you get lost, in trying to decipher all of the intricancie's of the bible and the rules they carry.
I agree that the bible WAS the truth, .... however that was 2000 years ago, spirituality does not stand still, it evolves and changes with mans ability to understand it.
bible this, bible that, ..... Im telling you that you do not need it, .... you never have. We have a built in gps system that brings us home if we allow it to. First you must stop accepting things blindly and begin to ask your own questions, create for yourself, instead of blindly following what your translation of the bible grants, which if flawed from the beginning.
I have been to the " other side" as people put it, I have seen things most people would not understand, and have returned to share this with all of those who are eager to learn.
yet everyone pretends they have it all figured out, and they argue not against me, .... but for themselves, trying to reaffirm their own belief's .
2. Jesus said,
“Let him who seeks. continue seeking, until he finds.
When he finds, he will become troubled.
When he becomes troubled, he will be astonished,
and he will rule over The All.”
77. Jesus said,
“It is I who Am The LIGHT which is above them all.
It is I who Am The All.
From Me did The All come forth,
and unto Me did The All extend.
Split a piece of wood, and I am there.
Lift up the stone, and you Will Find Me there.”
39. Jesus said,
“The Pharisees and the Scribes
have taken The Keys of Knowledge and Hidden Them.
They themselves have NOT entered,
nor have they allowed to enter those who wish to.
49. Jesus said,
“Blessed are the Solitary and Elect, for you will find The Kingdom.
For you are from it, and to it you will return.”
50. Jesus said,
“If they say to you, “Where did you come from?”
say to them, “We came from The LIGHT,
the place where The Light came into being
on Its own accord and established Itself
and became manifest through their Image.”
If they say to you, “Is it you?”
say, “We are its children, and we are the elect of The Living Father.”
If they ask you, “What is the sign of your Father in you?”
say to them, “It is Movement and Repose.”
11. Jesus said,
“This heaven will pass away,
and the one above it, will pass away.
The dead are Not alive,
and the living will Not die.
When you come to dwell in The Light,
what will you do?
On the day when you were one
you became two.
But when you become two,
what will you do?”
19. Jesus said,
“Blessed is he who came into being
before he came into being.
If you become My disciples
and listen to My words,
these stones will minister to you.
For there are five trees for you in Paradise
which remain undisturbed summer and winter
and whose leaves do not fall.
Whoever becomes acquainted with them
will Not experience Death.”
51. His disciple said to Him,
“When will the repose of the dead come about,
and when will the New World come?”
He said to them,
“What you look forward to has already come,
but you do Not recognise it.”
52. His disciples said to Him,
“Twenty-four prophets spoke in Israel,
and all of them spoke in You.”
He said to them,
“You have omitted The Living One in your presence
and have spoken only of the Dead.”
56. Jesus said,
“Whoever has come to understand the World
has found only a corpse,
and whoever has found a corpse
is superior to the World.”
84. Jesus said,
“When you See your likeness, you rejoice.
But when you See Your Images,
which came into being Before You,
and which Neither Die Nor Become Manifest,
How Much You Will Have to Bear!”
85. Jesus said,
“Adam came into being from a great power and a great wealth,
but he did not become worthy of you.
For had he been worthy,
he would not have experienced death.”
106. Jesus said,
“When you make the Two One,
you will become The Sons of Man and when you say,
“Mountain, Move Away, it will move away.”
108. Jesus said,
“He who will drink from My Mouth will Become Like Me.
I Myself Shall Become He,
and The Things That Are Hidden
Will Be Revealed to Him.”
22. Jesus said to them,
“When you make the two one,
and when you make the inside like the outside
and the outside like the inside,
and the above like the below,
and when you make the male and the female one and the same,
so that the male not be male nor the female;
and when you fashion eyes in place of an eye,
and a hand in place of a hand,
and a foot in place of a foot,
and a likeness in place of a likeness;
then will you enter The Kingdom.”
78. Jesus said,
“Why have you come out into the desert?
To see a reed shaken by the wind?
And to see a man clothed in fine garments
like your kings and your great men?
Upon them are the fine garments,
and they are unable to discern The Truth.”
39. Jesus said,
“The Pharisees and the Scribes
have taken The Keys of Knowledge
and Hidden Them.
They themselves have NOT entered,
nor have they allowed to enter
those who wish to.”
4. God forbid;
yea let God be true,
but every man (should be written "Person" or flesh) a liar;
as it is written,
That thou mightest be justified
in thy sayings,
and mightest overcome
when thou art Judged.
97. After The Lord had so danced with us, my beloved, He went out.
And we were like men amazed or fast asleep, and we fled this way and that.
And so I saw Him Suffer, and did not wait by His Suffering,
but fled to the Mount of Olives and wept at what had come to pass.
And when He was hung upon The Cross on Friday,
at the sixth hour of the day there came a darkness over the whole Earth.
And my Lord stood in the middle of the cave and gave Light to it and said,
“John, for the people below in Jerusalem I am being crucified
and pierced with lances and reeds, and given vinegar and gall to drink.
But to you I am speaking, and listen to what I speak.
I put into your mind to come up to this mountain
so that you may hear what a disciple should learn from his Teacher
and a man from God.”
98. And when He had said this
He showed me a Cross of Light firmly fixed,
and around The Cross a great crowd, which had no single form;
and in It (The Cross) was One Form and the Same Likeness.
And I saw The Lord Himself Above The Cross, having No Shape
but only a kind of Voice; yet not that voice which we knew,
but one that was sweet and gentle and truly The Voice of God,
which said to me,
“John, there must be one man to hear these things from Me;
for I need one who is ready to hear.
This Cross of Light is sometimes Called LOGOS by Me for your sakes,
sometimes MIND, sometimes JESUS, sometimes CHRIST,
sometimes A DOOR, sometimes A WAY, sometimes BREAD,
sometimes SEED, sometimes RESURRECTION,
sometimes SON, sometimes FATHER, sometimes SPIRIT,
sometimes LIFE, sometimes TRUTH,
sometimes FAITH, sometimes GRACE; and so it is called for men’s sake.
But what It Truly is, as Known in Itself and spoken to us, is this:
It is The Distinction of All Things, and The Harmony of Wisdom,
being Wisdom In Harmony.
But there are Places on the right and on the left,
Powers, Authorities, Principalities and Demonds,
Activities, Threatenings, Passions, Devils, Satan
and The Inferior Root from which the Nature of Transient things Proceeded.
99. This Cross then is that which has united ALL things by The WORD
and which has separated off what is Transitory and Inferior,
which has also Compacted ALL things into ONE.
But this is NOT that WOODEN CROSS
which you shall see when you go down from here;
nor am I the man who is on the Cross,
I whom now you do not see but only hear My Voice.
I was taken to be what I am NOT,
I who am NOT what for many others I was;
but what they will say of Me is mean and unworthy of Me.
Since then The Place of My Rest is neither to be seen nor told,
much more shall I, The Lord of this Place, be neither seen nor Told.
100. The Multitude around The CROSS that is Not of One Form is the Inferior Nature.
And those whom you saw in The CROSS, even if they have not yet One Form
Not every member of Him who has come down has yet been gathered together.
But when human nature is taken up, and The Race that comes to Me
and Obeys My Voice, then he who now hears Me Shall be United
with this Race and Shall no longer be what he now is,
but shall be above them as I am now.
For so long as you do not call yourself mine,
I am Not what I am;
but if you hear Me you also as a hearer Shall be as I am,
and I Shall be what I was, when you are as I am with Myself;
for from Me you are what I am.
Therefore ignore the many and despise those who are outside the mystery;
for you must know that I am wholly with The Father,
and The Father with Me.
101. So then I Suffer none of those things which they will say of Me;
even that Suffering which I showed to you
and to the rest in My Dance,
I will that it be called a mystery.
For what you are, that I have shown you, as you see;
but what I am is known to Me alone, and no one else.
Let Me have what is Mine; what is yours you must see through Me;
but Me you must See Truly not that which I am,
as I said, but that which you, as my kinsman, are able to know.
You hear that I Suffered, yet I Suffered not;
and that I Suffered not, yet I did Suffer;
and that I was pierced, yet I was not wounded;
that I was hanged, yet I was not hanged;
that blood flowed from Me, yet it did not flow;
and, in a word, that what they say of Me,
I did not endure, but what they do not say,
those things I did Suffer.
Now what these are, I secretly show you;
for I know that you will understand.
You must know Me, then, as the Torment of The LOGOS
the Wounding of The LOGOS, the Fasting of The LOGOS,
the Death of The LOGOS.
And so I speak, Discarding the manhood.
The First then that you MUST KNOW is THE LOGOS;
then you Shall Know The LORD, and Thirdly The MAN,
and what he has Suffered.:
102. When He had said these things to me, and others
which I know not how to say as He wills,
He was taken up, without any of the multitude seeing Him.
And going down I laughed at them all,
since He had told me what they had said about Him;
and I held this one thing fast in my Mind,
that The Lord had PERFORMED everything
as a SYMBOL and a DISPENSATION
for the CONVERSION and SALVATION of man. (MAN being the Soul and Not Flesh.)
103. Now, my brothers, since we have seen the grace of The Lord
and His affection towards us,
let us worship Him, since we have obtained mercy from Him;
NOT with our fingers, nor with our mouths nor with our tongue
nor with any member of our body at all,
but with The DISPOSITION of our SOUL;
74. He said, "O Lord,
there are many around the drinking trough,
but there is nothing in the cistern."
75. Jesus said,
"Many are standing at the door,
but it is the SOLITARY who will enter
the bridal chamber."