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Video: couple arrested at US border for asking questions

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posted on May, 6 2010 @ 06:04 AM
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Video: couple arrested at US border for asking questions


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In another perfect illustration of why the U.S. tourist industry is in free fall, audio has emerged of a Canadian couple who were interrogated and arrested by immigration officials after they dared to inquire as to why they were being asked such pointless and invasive questions.

Attempting to enter the U.S. at the Niagara Falls border, the couple were asked where they were going, to which they responded the Niagara Falls shopping mall. When the immigration official bizarrely demanded to know
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posted on May, 6 2010 @ 06:04 AM
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This is a total abuse of power. If you accept this as "normal", you might as well make an advanced self-registration for your nearest FEMA camp because you have a SLAVE mentality.

Man.. if this # is true.. Obamaland is in great trouble!!

People should really wake up... stop all this nonsense.. we are loosing our peace, freedom, liberty.. hell, we have already lost it.. its time to wake up and get it back .. peace and love..



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posted on May, 6 2010 @ 06:06 AM
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[wrong thread]

[edit on 6-5-2010 by 12m8keall2c]



posted on May, 6 2010 @ 06:18 AM
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To underscore the ludicrous justifications officials use for harassing people, the officer claims he personally stops three terrorists a day entering the United States from Canada. One wonders whether he characterizes a “terrorist” as someone who doesn’t instantly obey his every inane command.
Despite his pleas, the man and his wife are thrown in jail, at which point the audio ends.



posted on May, 6 2010 @ 06:27 AM
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Totally and completely disgusting. I am ashamed of my country when people are treated like that. I had to quit listening well before the end because it was making me physically ill.



posted on May, 6 2010 @ 06:27 AM
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Yes they were abusing their power, but the guy was being a smart alec (always a bad idea when interacting with police or border patrol) and we don't know what he or his wife was doing during the "What are you gonna do shoot me? What are you gonna do?" part because we have no video to look at. Just his tone of voice while saying it makes it sound like he was challenging them. Again, always a bad idea in that situation. It shouldn't have escalated the way it did, but that's no excuse for him to be a wise ass.



posted on May, 6 2010 @ 06:29 AM
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This used to happen to me every day in the US Mexico border.

Finally I went home and learned all the laws and rules, i could not break and then I found out what they were obligated to do as border patrol officers.

I would ask them to resize several of their obligations to me every day. If they made any wrong moves I would ask to be sent to secondary inspection to speak to a supervisor. I would chew the supervisors ear off for several hours each freakin day and demand that they file a report on the officer.

I would answer an officers questions as exactly he asked them to the best of my knowledge. Most of them don't even speak English so when i would be asked Who I was from I was obligated by law to respond to the best of my knowledge....the answer being my Mother.

This would get me sent to secondary inspection where again I would demand to speak to a supervisor and I'd demand to know why the A USA border patrol officer did not know how to speak English, then I would continue to demand that he be restrained and sent to English school so he could preform his duties correctly.

If you ever have problem like in this video demand to be sent to secondary and to speak with a supervisor and file a complaint, then demand that said officer be sent back to training so he can preform his job correctly. And make sure that you will be checking back and filing another written complaint on the supervisor if what you have asked is not done.

Every complaint even if dismissed still always stays on an officers record, Forever. Once they know you know this they play really nice, just remember to follow every single law and rule to the T. Be very calm and polite but demanding of a written report.

Once they realized that i loved being sent to secondary inspection, and spending hours there talking about the disqualifications of the officer that handle me, The barely even look at my passport any more.

I don't expect to get my butt kissed by any means but please just do your job correctly and save me the "I am God" Bit because if your not going to shoot me dead your getting a report on your law enforcement record that will be with you forever.



posted on May, 6 2010 @ 06:35 AM
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lolz.. thats a nice strategy .. bell hell man, what times are these? we have to now learn the law ourselves to get out of such situations?

this stuff shouldnt happen in the first place!! they are government officers.. and they are here to help the people not harass them..



posted on May, 6 2010 @ 06:49 AM
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This is sickening behaviour by the border patrol officers. The whole "I don't need a reason to do this to you" statement is the most frightening to me.

Yeah, this guy was being a smart arse, but whatever happened to freedom of speech?

Land of the free my hairy, milky-white backside!

I thinkI'll be steering clear of the states for the forseeable future. Shame really, because I've visited a umber of times and most of the people are really nice.



posted on May, 6 2010 @ 06:54 AM
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OH MY GOD!!!!

I just got done listening to the video.....

I want everyone to listen to me and understand this.

The USA is 100% a Nazi sate, if you don't believe me you will end up like that guy in the Video.

As a guide when entering the USA do this.

1.) keep in mind that you are entering a Nazi State, believe it and act accordingly. Because you are most definitely entering a Nazi State.

2.) Do not raise your voice as if you were not entering a Nazi State. Because you are entering a Nazi State.

3.) Do not think you have rights as if you not entering a Nazi state. Because you are entering a Nazi State and in a Nazi State you have no rights.

4.) answer every direct question to the absolute best of your knowledge as if you were talking to a Nazi in a Nazi state. Because you are entering a Nazi state and in a Nazi State Nazis get made if you have a slight attitude and will Kill you like a Nazi Kills a Jew.

5.) the second, and I mean the second things start getting slightly out of hand DEMAND politely in a completely calm voice to be sent to secondary inspection for the purpose of speaking with a supervisor. You life depends on how clam and polite and direct you are, remember you are trapped in a Nazi state with several Nazi. And believe that these Nazis will kill you like a Nazi kills a Jew.

6.) do not make any sudden moves, keep your hands visible at all times twined on the top of your head until the Nazi tells you other wise, do everything the Nazi says until you are taken to speak with the supervisor. Be calm and polite and demand to file a report of all the misconduct of the the Nazi officer. The Nazi officer will kill you like Nazis kill Jews.

7.) if anything happens ask if you have been arrested Camel and politely, do not respond to any question until you are answered. If the answer is yes Say absolutely nothing except you wish to speak to a lawyer. Say absolutely nothing after being arrested and saying you wish to speak to a lawyer. nothing.....

8.) once you are out of the Nazi state don't go back unless you absolutely have to or next time You might be killed by a Nazi. Count your blessing and consider yourself a survivor.

Izzy.

[edit on 6-5-2010 by Izarith]



posted on May, 6 2010 @ 06:56 AM
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I got news for you, the boarder patrol has always been like this…
Going Both ways…
The Canadian guys used to ask stupid questions about where you were going and what you were doing while in their country as well.

This guys is being a complete smartass, looking for an argument, and deserved what he got IMHO. He is acting like these are law enforcement officers, which they are not, they are boarder patrol. He is acting like he has a right to enter our country, and he does not, he is not a citizen and has ZERO rights in our country or while crossing the boarder into our country. Hopefully the officers dismantled his car searching for drugs, he would have deserved it. (they don’t reassemble it for you either, they give you car back in pieces
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posted on May, 6 2010 @ 07:05 AM
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Can you guys show me what law says "being a smart ass" is illegal or grounds for detention/arrest?

I guess I missed that law and I am having the darnedest time finding it.


BTW Izarith I found your comments top quality. Starred both of them, I really like the way you put it!



posted on May, 6 2010 @ 07:05 AM
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Hi Izarith!

You have obviously experienced things that I haven't. All I can say is that on visiting the US numerous times I have found the officials to be at worst professional and neutral and at best to be welcoming and friendly.

I agree demeanour is important but also believe that, unfortunately, there are bad apples in most barrels.

Regarding the video in question - if true (where is the actual video?) the officials appear to be provoking the driver and shouldn't be allowed anywhere near the public.

Peace!



posted on May, 6 2010 @ 07:06 AM
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Another word to the wise....

Do not expect pity from people After you have been raped by Nazi America and it's Nazi Officers.

The Reason America Is a Nazi state Is because it is entirely full of Nazi minded people and will make Pro Nazi posts on any site Even ATS that some how justifies the complete destruction of a persons life because he is considered a Smartbutt which is the New Term for the New Nazi targets of this world.

It's not Jews anymore now it's Smartbutts.

And trust me Nazis Will kill you for being a smartbutt just like Nazis love to kill Jews.



posted on May, 6 2010 @ 07:11 AM
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Ummm see the thing is the guy was basicaly just stopd for a routine check, as border guards, or ANY guards that deal with an influx of vehicles they have a qouta to meet that requires them to stop X amount of vehicles, interview, search etc.

Admitadly the cop that stopd him and askd him what shops he is going too was pretty retarded but basicaly the guy in the car was gonna get pulld out and checkd anyway, if he just accepted this, went along with it all he would have been out in a matter of minutes. Acting like a dick to these people, right or wrong whatever, is gonna basicaly get you arrested. Its his own fault.

If i go up to copper in the street and politley explain to him i think he is a total #. Guess who does not collect 200 dollars???, he really should have showed more common sense, yeah i knows its #d up, but still.



posted on May, 6 2010 @ 07:12 AM
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Next time you're pulled over (or go through border patrol that would be a more fair test), try being a smart ass to them every time you answer a question and see how far you make it before they cuff you. It may not be illegal, but it certainly doesn't help the situation and it's only going to piss them off.



posted on May, 6 2010 @ 07:13 AM
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Hey Muzzle,

i will have you know friend that you have always been exempt from any insult I my ever make in my life toward America and it's people.

You and those like you are the only hope your country has. I wish you luck my friend.


Thanks for existing.



posted on May, 6 2010 @ 07:13 AM
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I listened carefully and the inspecting officer is a complete d*(k. He exasperates the Canadian guy by his line of retarded questioning, "what stores are you going to?". He didn't like the apparent inability of the Canadian man to answer his question "I DON'T know WHAT stores we're going to shop at!". AHA! says the border guard, I caught another TERRORIST. These damn Canadians bringing their money over here and spending it, this has gotta stop! Douchebag doesn't even know that HIS WIFE WILL TELL HIM WHERE THEY ARE GOING TO SHOP. Anyone with a wife or girlfriend knows that so I can only assume our Border Guard is a lonely porn addict that can't stand seeing guys who have pretty wives and must show off his power in front of them.


I can remember as a kid going to Canada and back and you know what the signs said? WELCOME TO CANADA! and upon returning they said WELCOME TO THE UNITED STATES. They better take those signs down lest someone takes them seriously.



[edit on 6-5-2010 by Asktheanimals]



posted on May, 6 2010 @ 07:23 AM
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Originally posted by muzzleflash
Can you guys show me what law says "being a smart ass" is illegal or grounds for detention/arrest?

I guess I missed that law and I am having the darnedest time finding it.

Sure:

You’re not an American citizen, and you are not protected under the US Constitution the same way a citizen is when applying to enter this country. I say applying, because that is exactly what you are doing when you are discussing your business in the country with a boarder patrol agent. They are not required to allow you entrance, they can search and detain you without a warrant, right up to and including a body cavity search… This is based solely on reasonable suspicion, being a smart ass gives them reasonable suspicion to do anything they want with you.

When I used to cross over into Canada from the US, the Canadian guys used to ask us the same exact questions:
“Where are you going while in our country?”
“What will you being doing at that location?”
"Will you be purchasing anything?"
"What will you be purchasing?"

Heck when they would get a a car full of guys that were under the US drinking age heading over to Canada, the agents used to ask:
“Bar or Strip Clubs?”


The Us guys were a bit tougher then the Canadian side because they were on the lookout for drug smugglers coming across from Canada. (There is a lot of smuggling into the Us from the Canadian boarder). I was taught as a kid growing up on the boarder that you do not mess with boarder patrol, both them and the DNR have way more power then your normal police officer. They can arrest, detain, search, take your car apart, etc… and you waive your rights to these things by crossing the boarder.

[edit on 5/6/2010 by defcon5]



posted on May, 6 2010 @ 07:34 AM
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The border guard should be given a raise, promotion, and sent to the Southern border.....

He's guarding the wrong one.



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