I don't know if the gov. saying he was born at this hospital before they merged with the maternity center is exactly a lie. Anything that has been called something for 30 years might retain it's new name, even when discussing earlier history of it. How people speak is very subjective.

the people who think obama is kenyan aren't thinking about who it benefits for you to believe this.

There is no proof that will ever convince the Birthers. None. Its like debating with a zombie "BORN IN KENYA< BAAARRRYYYY

Originally posted by DrMattMaddix
As God Fearing, Red Blooded, Americans ... We just need to see to it that he goes to AZ lickity split. Doesn't he need to meet with McCain soon?

Obama's destiny lies in AZ

Yep, it sure will be interesting to see if Obama ever sets foot in Arizona ever again.

Originally posted by Alxandro

Originally posted by DrMattMaddix
As God Fearing, Red Blooded, Americans ... We just need to see to it that he goes to AZ lickity split. Doesn't he need to meet with McCain soon?

Obama's destiny lies in AZ

Yep, it sure will be interesting to see if Obama ever sets foot in Arizona ever again.

Why? Would they stop him for being black? Being in a car? Giving a speech? What probably cause would you expect the president to give them in order to even begin to question his citizenship?

Just curious since this law is all legit, on the up and up, not about race at all or anything like that.

Originally posted by anon72
One thing for sure, this issue ISN'T going away anytime soon ...

Oh, I know. It's painfully apparent.

I wish it would ... but, I know it'll be an issue until he's served out his term.

Fact: both Michelle and Obama refer to Kenya as Obama's home country. Michelle said it twice and Obama made a joke about it.

Fact: a non-government institution handled the birth certificate (factcheck, funded by the Annenberg foundation which Obama was a chairman of). And Hawaii state records said they handled it but did not show the actual document.

It seems like it's both a fact that the actual birth certificate on file in Hawaii has not been shown to the public as well as the fact that both of them have said Kenya is the home country.

Am I missing something?

This is a picture of three guys appearing to inflict violence upon a horse, lying on the ground, that seems to be, most likely, dead. They are also talking about matters while this is going on.

Originally posted by Hadrian

This is a picture of three guys appearing to inflict violence upon a horse, lying on the ground, that seems to be, most likely, dead. They are also talking about matters while this is going on.

in other words, "move along here, people, nothing to see" ?

You want to know what else is beating a dead horse? Sticking a picture of a horse getting beat on every single one of these threads.

Since you added me as a foe, I feel obliged to act the role.

Originally posted by filosophia
Fact: both Michelle and Obama refer to Kenya as Obama's home country. Michelle said it twice and Obama made a joke about it.

Fact: a non-government institution handled the birth certificate (factcheck, funded by the Annenberg foundation which Obama was a chairman of). And Hawaii state records said they handled it but did not show the actual document.

It seems like it's both a fact that the actual birth certificate on file in Hawaii has not been shown to the public as well as the fact that both of them have said Kenya is the home country.

Am I missing something?

Fact: You can look at his birth certificate online from all kinds of angles.

Fact: You can confirm that is indeed what a Hawaiian birth certificate does indeed look like.

Fact: There were two birth announcements places in local papers at the time of his birth.

Fact: The Hawaiian Dept. of Health has confirmed his records of birth in Hawaii and determined it so.

Fact: He was confirmed by the person in charge (Pelosi) as eligable to run for president of the United States.

Fact: A bill has passed that acknowledges he was born in Hawaii so whether you believe it or not, it is now law.

Fact: He was elected by a majority with plenty of time to expose something like this.

Fact: Every time new evidence surfaces about his Kenyan heritage, it has been debunked, a proven fraud, or some random interpretation.

I could probably go on.

Do your "facts" outweigh mine?

Originally posted by filosophia
in other words, "move along here, people, nothing to see" ?

You want to know what else is beating a dead horse? Sticking a picture of a horse getting beat on every single one of these threads.

See what you just said?

"horse getting beat on every single one of these threads."

Because there should be hundreds of threads on this one topic and god forbid anyone point out how tired that is. Just look at people like Anon who go starting these threads, filling them with lies and moving on to start again when proven wrong. I think the horse pic is far less redundant than the fact that there are "all these threads" in which to post it.

Some people just don't give up! This issue is really a waste of good thinking time.