Fate to Sail ? Surviving "Lotsageddon", page
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Topic started on 5-5-2010 @ 04:36 AM by Northwarden
One matter seems apparant in our future, and that is the globalization of the new world order setting itself in place. I'll start by pointing out that that's not the topic of this thread, only the catalyst. With talk of economic collapse, nanotech in supermarkets, oppressive taxes, surveillance and all other manner of disaster looming, more and more people feel their backs pressed to the wall, and many have had enough for years. So what is a person to do? A short essay by Ray Jason entitled How to Sail away from Lotsageddon was published March 26th. It is packed to the gills with inspiration and some practical information for those who may want to consider themselves up to the task of sailing away to international waters, to avoid the spectre of big government. Since we have the time to prepare, it's never too late to cash in those stocks, put the house up for sale, and look into a brand new lifestyle. Does early retirement really sound that bad in light of modern day problems?

Perhaps there are some able-bodied ATSer's who might be drafted to work aboard your ship too. How about rescue operations of your family and friends if things get too bad overland in future years? Last I heard there were still uninhabited islands in the pacific; the thirty-thousand islands in the great lakes; Just avoid Somolia and the Bermuda triangle!

Self-reliance at sea

Sea gypsies are probably the most self-reliant people in the civilized world because when crossing oceans, there are no hardware stores, diesel repair shops or hospitals to turn to for help. Because of this need for self-sufficiency, sailboats have used highly sophisticated survival systems for decades. Reverse-osmosis water-makers that convert salt water into tasty fresh water were perfected many years ago. Sailing vessels have generated electricity by using wind turbines and solar panels for at least 20 years. Ham radio and single-sideband frequencies provide communication links that are far less fragile than the systems that landsmen typically use. All of these systems have been tested and fine-tuned and work brilliantly.

Because of our need to fend for ourselves when far from land, most sailors abide by the “hope for the best but prepare for the worst” philosophy. In my case this outlook spills over into my general worldview. Indeed, I hope that I am just a “Collapsachondriac” and that my concerns for the future prove to be wrong, but I have prepared for the worst, and now I will share that knowledge with you.


www.culturechange.org...

The First essay, Ray Jason
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reply posted on 5-5-2010 @ 12:00 PM by IgnoranceIsntBlisss
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Check out the Seasteading Institute


I love the ideas of micronatons, and artificial islands:

The problem is building them so that they could handle the open seas.


reply posted on 10-5-2010 @ 01:03 AM by gwydionblack
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I love the idea of sailing away. In fact, my friend and I have already made the plans that if we survive long enough to make enough money, we will be getting a house boat and making for the ocean.

Either way, regardless of if SHTF in our lifetimes or not, I couldn't imagine being secluded to the land my entire life without experiencing the freedom of the open seas. Having lived inland my whole life with the yearly trips to the ocean, I find myself longing for the sea and its infinite expanse. To me, the emptiness of the ocean is the last place on Earth where you can feel true freedom and be away from the cluttered mess that mankind has become.

Let it be known that if anyone on ATS decides to go through with this, I am indeed an able bodied sea hand and will work my heart away if only for daily rations and a place to lay my head at night. As long as I get the water beneath my feet and the freedom of the winds to guide me, I'll be the happiest man alive.


reply posted on 10-5-2010 @ 03:19 PM by Northwarden
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A houseboat, that seems like a very sound plan too

It seems such a standardized routine to work away at a job, take out a mortgage, and then buy a house, or land to build a house. That's fine if you have kids, and need that location stability. Otherwise, what's stopping anyone from sailing who has reasonable assets and a good knowledge-base about living off the grid? Adventurousness would develop over time, and it's still a roof over your head.

Slip costs are pricey though, perhaps there are better ways to circumvent them. I have a friend in town who took his boat ashore late fall and winter, parked it on a friends property (& paid hydro) to live on his boat for over a year.

Chained to a mortgage has never been my plan; far better to afford what you can as you go. Camping is another good thing to consider for savings - rent is always such an expense, and not having that expense allows for goals to happen. It's fine conditioning, and you learn to like the rain What seemed impossible to do before becomes very realistic after a couple months in the woods.




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