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Originally posted by SpectreDC
Either that, or educate yourselves.
What do I find unamerican though? The following statement.
but we do need to be able to prove who is entitled to partake in these said freedoms. (speaking about immigration)
It's evident to me when people say things like this that they don't understand anything about America. No, you don't understand anything about America so don't reply saying you do.
The fundamental principles founded in this country are not laws given to us by the state. They are not deemed "okay" by any single entity. These principles, in ideology (not in practice, sadly) were not attributed to only Americans. They were not only attributed to white males. They were attributed to men and women, blacks and whites, gays and straights, christians and atheists, because all of these labels and categories exist under another label: HUMAN
Our freedoms are not given to us by a piece of paper. They are not allowed to us by the president, congress, or the supreme court. They are not allowed by a religion or a political belief.
I'm going to say this next part slowly, because this is where people seem to stop reading or start having trouble understanding, or simply refuse TO understand.
Our rights aren't "granted", "allowed", "given", "acquired", or any similar terms. They are not LEGAL rights.
The concept of "inalienable rights", of "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness", is not LEGAL. They are not positive rights. It is NATURAL.
American principles are founded on NATURAL LAW. Natural law, as the name identifies it as, is the law of nature, the law of God.
Natural law is not granted upon anyone, because they are inherent in us.
I am so sick and tired of hypocritical, sycophantic, uneducated pieces of trash who have no idea what they are talking about and yet act as if what they say is self-evident. You want to know what is self-evident? Likely the part where in some old documents people don't care about now that say "We hold these truths to be self-evident." HMMM, I WONDER WHAT TRUTHS THEY WERE SAYING WERE SELF-EVIDENT?
What is so FREAKING PATHETIC ABOUT YOU PEOPLE IS THAT THIS DOESN'T TAKE ADVANCE EDUCATION TO KNOW!
You don't NEED to take a class in ethics to learn about this!
For freakin' sakes, WIKIPEDIA HAS THIS STATED ABOUT NATURAL LAW!
"The essence of Declarationism is that the founding of the United States is based on Natural law."
When you say someone doesn't deserve the rights we have in this country, it is unamerican. When you say that someone needs to be granted our rights, it is unamerican. When you say that someone isn't allowed our rights because they have done something heinous, it is unamerican.
Not only is it unamerican, it ALLOWS those who take OUR rights AWAY from us to CONTINUE doing so because you forget where our rights come from. You forget what it means to be an American. You forget that the rights we have, not as an American but as a human, is not granted to us but is instilled in us from creation, whether you think our creation was random or divine.
For everyone one of you quoting and humping the legs of our founding fathers that has said anything like the quoted bit at the top, you are not an American and you are a hypocrite. For anyone you has said that another is unamerican for whatever reason, yet has said anything like the quoted bit at the top, you are not an American.
Because none of you understand our principles. None of you understand the ideologies that founded this country. All you do is parrot the talk of those who are trying to destroy our liberties we inherently have as HUMANS. And if you think these rights shouldn't be given to others that aren't American, you are a hypocrite. You are not an American. You don't understand what this country stands for, or at the very least once stood for. But unlike you, just because you don't understand these things, I don't
It's cake by any means necessary.
but we do need to be able to prove who is entitled to partake in these said freedoms.
You are hypocritcal...why shoud all these people that came to America ILLEGALLY not have to abide by our rules? If they want to live here, then they should have to follow the LAW.. it is plain and simple.
Originally posted by endisnighe
Back on track folks.
Natural Law defined by anyone is just a theory being postulated. Nothing more. As Newton postulated his theory on gravity, does NOT make his THEORY=GRAVITY so too the definition of said Natural Law.
Originally posted by DarkStormCrow
reply to post by Roger Dat
You are Brazilian , The United States of America is the only country with America in its name hence we are called Americans. Yes you were Born on the Continent of South America hence you are South American and a Brazilian. North and South America are 2 seperate continents not one.
While it may be a fun exercise to play the name game on the internet I fairly assured when travelling to other parts of the world one does not claim to be American.