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Alleged NASA -Affiliated Astronomer Deciphers 'Intelligence' Signal From Nearby Stars

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posted on Sep, 27 2011 @ 06:52 PM
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My previous post was something i incidently came across during my search for James
Van Greunen's FIRST demise i actually came across it someime ago and didn't think to
book mark it.
I am sure the information i was searching for was in one of Cynthia Hinds many reports
[I know there are MANY ASTUTE ATS'ers out there that will probabaly now find it before
me!!]


Anyway it is the report of James's very *FIRST* demise. Apparently Cynthia Hind had
reason to try to contact James and phoned the phone no.she had to at the accomadation
where he was staying, and she was informed by his 'wife' that he had been executed by firing
squad for treason. On further prompting by Cynthia, his 'wife' said she had just been informed
by "phone" - Well that doesn't sound like normal Military protocol to me !!


His *SECOND* demise a suicide in 1993 is reported by his 'wife' as Dana Scully on the
thread - Connect the Dots Kalahari, MJ-12, Area 51, and EBE-3. on ATS and as posted on
dcmb's earlier posting


Then we have the 'birth' of the fully adult Judy Faltskog and...............................
the *THIRD* demise. Another suicide!!! From Judys fb [names redacted of 2nd and 3rd parties]
26. 8. 10 A new posting on Judy Faltskog's fb.

Judy Faltskog......Out of Respect and Due to Unforseen and Extremely Tragic turn of events
this Profile will be deleted Permanantly soon.

Then there is a letter from xxxx that says I've got a private message just now on fb it came
from Judy's account there, but written by her son Jens: Judy Faltskog 26 Augustus
om 12:09 Judy passed away this morning due to complications after an attempted suicide.
You are receiving this message since she regarded you as a friend. Her family wish this to
be kept confidential due to the criticism she had to endure, by those wishing to spread lies
and deception about her. Jens (her son)

So there you have it! THREE 'asensions' or is it 'raptures?' and still going strong




posted on Sep, 27 2011 @ 08:34 PM
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Cynthia Hind makes a good read and fills in a lot of holes in James's early scamming life.

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Per Cynyhia Hind UFO investigator(deceased) South Africa:

Quote: I think one of the more humorous sides of the Van Greunen story was Mrs. Van Greunen ( I'm not going into the semantics of whether he was really married or cohabiting) telling David Powell that James had been executed by the South African Airforce!

TUNNEL VISIONS also reports that anonymous information from South Africa had been received stating that Van Greunen had been executed at 13:00 hours on the 27th February 1990 by the military authorities. On contacting his wife, she confirmed this information. The information. she said, had been given to her by the military authorities over the telephone. She did not know who spoke to her.

The whole story is ridiculous! There is no death penalty by execution for revealing military secrets without a long and involved trial. Besides which, James was subsequently seen in Cairo with a German girlfriend.

Michael Hesemann, of MAGAZIN FUR NEUES BEWUFSTSEIN (? type was hard to read), says that Van Greunen finally admitted to him that it had all been a hoax.* In his report, Hesemann says that originally Van Greunen repeatedly promised him documents. After all, this was the reason for his flight to Munich, all expenses paid. If anyone has lost financially on this case, it is Michael.

But Van Gruenen produced only an extra 3 pages of documentation on his 'crashed UFO.'

Source: www.ufoafrinews.com...
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Me thinks NASA Judy Falkstog is so taken by Wayne Herschel and his NDE (near death experience) that she had to have multiple deaths just so she could meet him at the tree of life and learn all about Google bombs, RA, cosmic knowledge, and how to write bad books.

They knew him well back then. James, 700.00 US dollars for UFO books on a rubber check?
Man you had some nerve.
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posted on Sep, 28 2011 @ 03:18 AM
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Didn't i say we had some VERY ASTUTE ATS'ers here !

Well done dcmb thank you for confirming it for me





I wonder if that 'friend' who wrote to Cynthia Hind accusing her of the 'character assination'

of James was one Wayne Herschel !

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posted on Sep, 28 2011 @ 04:40 AM
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Originally posted by A boy in a dress

Nah... I wasn't there really, I was at the Kalahari Crash-site... with Elvis.



that darned Elvis! If they put up a McDonald's ANYWHERE he can find it - even in the Kalahari Desert! I bet he never even noticed the crashed saucer in his rush to get inside Micky-D's! He's got a one-track mind like that...



posted on Sep, 28 2011 @ 07:29 PM
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On a whim I was researching "Tunnel Visions" mentioned in that Cynthia Hind article about James van Greunen and googled tunnel vision and got a lot of eye problem sites. Then I added tunnel vision - James van Greunen, Kalahari, and Judy and got a hit on one interesting site.

Don't know if this is the good doctor (or someone else) talking about presenting the latest alien video dated this past May. Sure sounds like her to me and even Ivan0135 makes an appearance, shades of the puppet dance.

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Re: Breaking news alien being sighted
Post by agent99 on May 4, 2011, 2:50pm

As The World Turns Continues....

I hesitated there about continuing on with what I'm about to post here because I'm thinking... "hey, shouldn't I just wait and write a book on this instead so I can make some extra pin money to pay for all of those UFO conferences ALL OVER THE WORLD I'm going to be invited to talk at after I reveal this information?". But, out of the goodness of my heart, for all of you out there who are now, at this very moment, waiting for me to GET TO THE POINT ALREADY! .... let's cut to the chase and post it now.
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Oh, wait, did I say that I've posted this video and its screenshots sometime before in this forum? Well, like everything else I'm saying here... that one is true too but I will spare you of having to search for that information and post it here again for those who have not seen it yet.

I should warn a. of time though that I DO NOT DO interviews as this is not the kind of thing I would ever want to become famous for. ;D

In fact, for me, fame is NOT the game, when it comes to stuff like this but ask me if I want further explanations on what UFOs really are and where they come from and who and what are these strange looking beings that we call ET's or UT's whatever else anyone is calling them, this is the ONLY reason why I am here participating in a forum like this one and just because I'm showing what I've got.... I'm just showing it because I know some here are curious enough to see what we 'silent ones' have too... even though we are not famous or well known for one reason or another. I'm just an avg. woman who is quickly approaching her 'winter years' in life that just wants to get it out there should someone else have the same experiences well after she's long gone.

I don't want to draw attention to myself, I don't want to become famous and well known in the UFO community and most of all, I don't want to end up being fired from my job because if my bosses caught wind of me talking about the kinds of things I'm talking about here.... they would think of some way to kick my butt out the door.... pronto! No, I will remain anonymous.. thank you.....
to be continued... ;D
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Ivan0135:
In response to posts about the documents:

The material is an edited compilation of the documents that we have.

Your opinion and the conclusion you draw from this material do not depend on us.

Maybe you are looking in the wrong direction.

You are the ones who reject this material.

Sources will not be revealed.

Information that may involve any agency or people will not be disclosed.

There is not any reference which may link the material to any organization that is working today in the material exposed.

However, you are speculating and making conjectures about its origins.

The material does not belong to any film, video games, television series or other commercial products that have been revealed to date or which are currently in production.

No one who is out of this may prove to be the owner of this material.

No one who is out of this can prove he has in his possession the original material.

The revelation of further material will depend on the events and people.

You are the ones who create your own misinformation.
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source: lucianarchy.proboards.com...



Judy was even mentioned as an after thought about a lie detector test near the bottom of the page it was more focused on some guy.

Don't know but it smells familiar to me.



posted on Sep, 29 2011 @ 08:59 AM
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It's her.

The cr*p that is delivered on that page by Agent99 tells me that it's her.



Breaking news alien being sighted.
I hesitated there about continuing on with what I'm about to post here because I'm thinking...

She's showing her 'savvy'... she's saying "yes, I know it's a cynical world and we all have
to brave it, but I'm like you... I'm the one you have waited for, the one who has stepped
forward. We're alike you and I, now read on beside me -instead of being a stranger.




..."hey, shouldn't I just wait and write a book on this instead so I can make some extra
pin money to pay for all of those UFO conferences ALL OVER THE WORLD I'm going to
be invited to talk at after I reveal this information?".

Even here, as she shows us that she can see the temptation and feels it's pulse, she
tells the reader that she is human and has flaws, well... that means she's just like
you and me. Let's give her a break, huh?
Don't worry, like any controlling megla-maniac, the yarn will be about her and not Alien
footage or sightings.




But, out of the goodness of my heart, for all of you out there who are now, at this very
moment, waiting for me to GET TO THE POINT ALREADY!
....let's cut to the chase and post it now.

Then post it Dear one, post it... but no, she first has to place her postion firmly has the
voice, she can be your friend but never forget who's in charge here!
Classic narcissistic trait.




Oh, wait, did I say that I've posted this video and its screenshots sometime before in this
forum? Well, like everything else I'm saying here... that one is true too but I will spare you
of having to search for that information and post it here again for those who have not seen it yet.

James must have picked this up from when he was a boy, the coy-'wait until I say-so, Oh-I'm
so-absent-minded' attitude!
And of course, benevolence -by Gosh! The occasional .-pat shows her kind -but-fair nature!.




I should warn a. of time though that I DO NOT DO interviews as this is not the kind of thing
I would ever want to become famous for. ;D

No sh*t-Sherlock!! that's the one thing our Doc Judy/James wants more than anything
else! In her ., she's already there...dismissing any requests for proof or critical
questioning... in her ., she's the 'star' she/he always wanted to be.




In fact, for me, fame is NOT the game, when it comes to stuff like this but ask me if I want
further explanations on what UFOs really are and where they come from and who and what
are these strange looking beings that we call ET's or UT's...

Are we still going on about fame?! Where's the alien-stuff SHOW US THE GOODS, GAL!
You see? she has to tarry and have the readers look at HER, the story is in the title, but the
'Judester' wants the praise, the limelight.




...whatever else anyone is calling them, this is the ONLY reason why I am here participating in
a forum like this one and just because I'm showing what I've got.... I'm just showing it because
I know some here are curious enough to see what we 'silent ones' have too... even though we
are not famous or well known for one reason or another.
I'm just an avg. woman who is quickly approaching her 'winter years' in life that just wants to get
it out there should someone else have the same experiences well after she's long gone...

And on and on with the fake-humbleness. I see James/Judy managed to get the old 'I'm
a woman' -in there! The little ditty about merely being the one of the runners in this race
and others picking up the baton-when she falls from exhaustion is again, an indication of
the false-world she/he lives in.




don't want to draw attention to myself, I don't want to become famous and well known in the
UFO community and most of all, I don't want to end up being fired from my job because if
my bosses caught wind of me talking about the kinds of things I'm talking about here....
they would think of some way to kick my butt out the door....
pronto! No, I will remain anonymous.. thank you..... to be continued... ;D

Is that the NASA Astronomer job -Judy?!



posted on Sep, 29 2011 @ 10:15 AM
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Excellent points and analysis that fits the mold of herr doktor Judy Falkstog. I hope they broke that mold and melted it down into a space limo for RA because the royal Egyptian fan is needed back at the throne for air circulation and to adorn the back of the Sphnix.

Speaking of which.



A new thread on Wayne Herschel and his claim about the Egyptian royal fan being a flying saucer on the back of the sphnix is being discussed here.

www.abovetopsecret.com...


The original article for the thread is here:

www.news24.com...

Nenothtu does a great job of outing Wayne Herschel for the fraud that he is on that thread.

can of whup-azz anyone



posted on Sep, 29 2011 @ 11:13 AM
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...I bet you some pieces of technology have been found and the elite people around
the world have gone and sought after them and collected them," he said...

He'd bet on that!


Jezus-Jones, doesn't he listen to himself?
'So there may be evidence that we have never shown to you 'sheeple' and I (The Waynster!)
would show you it, but the Queen of England snatched it from the Rothchilds and won't let folk
like you... (not me, not me -the Waynster, who already knows)... see it!'

I attempted to watch the 'Ancient Aliens' episodes and after ten minutes of 'could have'... 'may have'
and 'possibly'... I gave up.

The internet may be a live animal that was given to us from aliens. This possible creature has long tendrils
that seeps into every household and business. It's primary food is knowledge and the name for this
creature is... it's in my book.
Price@ £19.99 at all good bookstores. We ship.



posted on Sep, 29 2011 @ 08:08 PM
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Clicked on your link to The Presidents UFO website and skimmed though the posts
which mainly consisted of the usual mostly 'i will believe anything you say' brigade
when i came across the following which i thought was quite interesting!



PSYCHOLOGY OF A HOAXER by PAUL ROBINSON
After following Grant Camerons interactions with known hoaxer pseudonymns

# 1 ) James Van Greunen [South Africia]
# 2 ) Judith Helena Van Greunen [Germany]
# 3 ) Judith Helena Faeltskog [Germany]
# 4 ) Judy Faltskog [Sweden]
# 5 ) Patricia Long [Jamaica]

(( Wayne Herschel is not included but i bet he fits in somewhere??
))

It would probably be informative to look at the reasons behind why people create
these hoaxes to begin with!
Here are a few obvious reasons


# 1 ) Compulsive/pathological liar
# 2 ) 15 minuits of fame
# 3 ) Enjoyment in trying to make people look stupid
# 4 ) Personal /Professional dislike of UFO
# 5 ) Personal/Professional interest in sowing the seeds of informarion

That said, what might be the probability of such options being the impetus of the
presumed serial hoaxer?

First of all in this case it would appear that Faltskog is/was not the the originator of the
video, but simply claimed it had been passed on to her - [OR as she has claimed earlier
"she had at GREAT PERSONAL EXPENSE TO HERSELF purchased it in Antartica"]


After a little mild confrontation on my part, i was blocked from her youtube channel at
www.youtube.com...
I got an angry message telling me she was not Judy. She then removed her version of the
Live Alien video, and disabled all commenting on her videos.

* PSEUDOLOGIA FANTASTICA


# 1. The stories told are not entirely improbable and may have some element of truth
# 2 The fabricative tendency is long lasting, it is not provoked by the immediate situation
or social pressure.
# 3 A definate internal, not an external motive can be decerned. eg. long lasting extortion
might cause the person to LIE repeatedly.
# 4 The stories told tend towards presenting the liar favourably eg. the person knowing or
being related to many famous people.

The thought that Faltskog might be doing this to irritate, or make people look stupid dosen't
ring true. She probably wouldn't go to ground if this were the case. Someone doing this would
likely revel in their achievement.

A personal interest in spreading disinformation - again one would have to wonder why such a
person would spend so much time and effort on such a venture.
To conclude it would seem that Faltskog may very well have some variation of Pseudologia
Fantistacia. This is highlighted in her insistance of how dangerous it is to her in passing
on information.



posted on Sep, 29 2011 @ 08:55 PM
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Good stuff.

My immediate thoughts on agent99 in that one link when she refused to consider giving any interviews was that people would recognize that manly voice coming from a lady NASA astronomer and say , "Whoa, give up those cigarettes and 30 cups of coffee in the morning there Miss Judy." Or James, Long time dude, like your purse.

Wayne's FB now list his book as: "The hidden records-star maps & messages of the star visitors." Don't know if he is expanding the title or if this is the book 2 that he was promoting as the soon to be released sequel. Either way, that storage building must be full of his unsold books but a good source of "paper" if the disater hits that the doom and gloom folks are squawking about.

Cynthia Hind led me to another site that I have never seen before and I researched Cynthia extensively. Its all in the keywords (and outside clues) I suppose. This time it was a rock in UFOlogy to me and shook my belief in the community more than ever. Is it all a sham?

Won't post what I've learned in respect to the source but its frustrating to learn these things.

I know that Judy Falkstog is a fraud and I know that Wayne Herschel is a fraud out to make money on a belief that honestly I don't think even he believes in. Money motivates him and attention motivates him but logic and common sense escapes him like water in the Kalahari desert.

sign me, seriously disillusioned



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posted on Sep, 30 2011 @ 02:04 AM
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Originally posted by A boy in a dress



..."hey, shouldn't I just wait and write a book on this instead so I can make some extra
pin money to pay for all of those UFO conferences ALL OVER THE WORLD I'm going to
be invited to talk at after I reveal this information?".


I think this is yet another diagnostic indicator that it's Judy.

"ALL OVER THE WORLD" --- She's a globe-trotter, b'gosh, just as our own little spacepumpkin is!

"I'm going to be invited to talk at..." -- she's IMPORTANT, b'gosh! She's in demand! People love her, people want to hear what she has to say!

And it's all because SHE has the classified goods. I wonder if there's a watermark from a South African passport embedded in the video anywhere?



posted on Sep, 30 2011 @ 02:55 AM
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-- she's IMPORTANT, b'gosh! She's in demand! People love her,
people want to hear what she has to say!


Yeah, that's it and how many times have we stood in the shadows and watched
others take the adoration, the applause?
Think of it this way.

You're a kid at school. The young 'starters' are searching for friends from previous
schools or classes and when found, they can relax knowing that moving-in-numbers
is safer.

But you have issues, you have tried to interact and found that as you stand there in
your crisp-new clothes and knobbly knees, there isn't anyone to run to... to be in a group
with.
You're alone and hate them for it.

It doesn't matter anyway. In your room at home, the world you created marches to your
tune, to your orders and with a little tentative testing on your relatives, you found that you
have a power to make folk believe what you want them to.

Granted, parents and the like -allow this imaginary world to exist and say things like...
"bless him, he's doing no harm" or he's just play-acting" but to the little boy that yearns
for affection, it's real.

Hmmm... affection. To be wanted and admired, to feel needed and loved. My, how that innocent
want can be tainted.

And so you set out with a plan, a plan to give what the 'others' want and in return, they'll give
the affection you crave. Mind you... it's gotta taste like candy, it's gotta be something the kids
will crave for.
That way, you'll know they will wait and want... they'll be the 'little' people basking in YOUR light.

But damn it, the girls hold the REAL power! He sees them turn the boys away from his stories
of the fantastic, his lies and half-truths... with that 'special' sugar that only females can wield.
(No disrespect to women here!)
Their nubile charms and early-feminine ways, their gentleness that holds young boys ensorceled!
Who can forget their first schoolyard crush?!

So he recognises true power and and knows that someday... he will hold that strength, that power
too.
He gained a wand by losing his.

Enter -Stage Left: Ms. Judy Fältskog and her Amazing Bag Of Tricks.
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posted on Sep, 30 2011 @ 09:56 PM
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Found another site analyzing the Judy Faltstog's alien video that also mentions the alien signal, this thread and ATS. Excellent break down of Judy's newest hoax and another nail in her reputation. It seems that soon she will have to change identities again to continue whatever agenda she is on. Your still batting zero NASA Judy.

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But who is this Judy Fältskog?

Through his investigation, Cameron determined that this Judy Fältskog is the same Judy Fältskog who, in 2010, claimed to be an astronomer working for NASA, and announced that she had intercepted and deciphered an intelligent signal from a nearby star. As Cameron points out, Fältskog’s credentials and claims turned out to be false. And research into Fältskog revealed interesting results including a history of hoaxing, identity changes, and even a sex change.

Members of the AboveTopSecret.com website investigated Fältskog’s history, determining that she had previously been James Van Greunen, a South African UFO enthusiast, who alleged involvement in the recovery of a UFO. After being exposed as a fraud, Van Greunen allegedly left South Africa, moved around the world, and had a sex change operation.

Fältskog told Cameron that “there is a lot more footage of this film to be released, [more than] 180 minutes of it as well as other more interesting footage.” But this person’s dubious background strongly supports the notion that this ET video is nothing more than a hoax. It also raises doubt that Fältskog is indeed the source of the video.

Fältskog and Cohen seem to have only uploaded this one ET video, while the Alien Disclosure Group uploaded a second video on the same day, which allegedly depicts the downing and recovery of a UFO and ETs by the air force. Both videos are similar aesthetically, supposedly making them from the same batch of “leaked” videos.

But to add to the mysterious origin of the video(s), a YouTube user by the name of Ivan0135 uploaded the ET video a day earlier—on May 1st—and the UFO video was uploaded on April 13th. Interestingly, “South Africa” and “Kalahari Desert” are among the string of descriptive keywords attached to the ET video uploaded by Ivan0135. This suggests a connection between Ivan0135 and Judy Fältskog.

The UFO video uploaded by Ivan0135 adds to the confusing origin of these two videos. That video begins by showing a blurry logo with black bars blocking out text above and below the logo. Another video on YouTube that claims to show footage of an alien autopsy in Russia displays the same logo at the beginning, without the black bars. We were informed by Croatian radio host Giuliano Marinkovic that this logo is a KGB logo. So this adds the question: Why would a video alleging to show a U.S. military chase and recovery of a UFO begin with the KGB logo?


Technical oddities


The mysterious and questionable source of the video isn’t the only red flag indicating a hoax. Several technical elements within the video elicit skepticism. For starters, there are multiple versions of the video floating around the internet. The video posted by the Alien Disclosure Group is completely silent, while the video posted by Allnewsweb.com and by Fältskog has an almost comically loud clicking sound, supposedly from a projector.

First of all, film cameras of that era didn’t record sound. Secondly, while it has been suggested that the camera was filming a projector screen, it seems unlikely that an audio recording would have been made and added to the film when the only audible noises are those from the projector.
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www.uforesearchnetwork.proboards.com...
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Makes me wonder about the Ivan ,Judy and the Kalahari connection. They did an awesome job on that forum dissecting and explaining the film. Thought it was cool that ATS was mentioned. Seems that a lot of sites point back here when the alien signal hoax is discussed.


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posted on Oct, 1 2011 @ 10:04 AM
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From researching eletheia's earlier post, Please take a look at the similarities and the pattern of a never dying hoax.

The main themes of this post are:

The Crem alphabet, history repeats and repeats, most good guys/bad guys of Ufology conned each other and then scammed the community as a whole, fox in the hen house.


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1989 Kalahari crash - The CREM Alphabet from Reticuli

Discovered and deciphered by Captain James van Greunen of SAAP intelligence at the Kalahari crash site.

132 character alien alphabet each representing a 3-letter sound in English.

The genius mind of van Gruenen deciphered this complex and alien language in a matter of days!

Quote from Cynthia Hind:

My opinion about the 'deciphered and translated' sentences claimed by Van Greunen to have been taken from script found in the Alien craft, is that they came straight out of a C-class space opera scripted by an avid reader of Sci-fi, or a viewer of TV, aged about 12.

All of Cynthia Hind's reports are here, look for vol 4

sources: www.ufoafrinews.com...
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April 2010 The Signal hoax

Judy Faltskog deciphers alien signal (she was busted before she could fully throw out her deciphered results in mere days like James had done)
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May 2010 Leaked footage of Alien from Zeta Reticula (Judy's new video)

Well, James/Judy has already deciphered the Reticula language and its amazing that the aliens in the Kalahari crash of 1989 are the same aliens of April/May 2010 signal and video hoaxes.
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From digging into old archives, Did you know?:

Did you know that James sent secret files and transcripts to two QUEST INTERNATIONAL investigators, Tony Dodd and Henry Azadehdel, telling of the event?

Did you know that Tony and Henry were sent as a team to Africa to investigate?

Did you know that Tony and Henry gave paying seminars on the Lesotho and Kalahari Crashes?

Did you know that Tony and Henry traveled to South Africa, England, and Germany? Guess whom else traveled to all of these countries during that time? Yep. James van Gruenen.

Must have made Judy mad that Henry and Tony were making a bundle off of "her" story. Just like she got mad at Micheal Hesemann on another forum ( she used the James Forbes alias) for owing her money for a story she submitted and wasn't paid for ( It was for a book that was never published)

Did you know that Tony claimed he established telepathic communication with the aliens themselves.

Did you know Tony claimed to have Uncovered the truth about a UFO crash in the Kalahari Desert where living aliens were captured.

source: ( from his book) Alien Investigator by Tony Dodd, ISBN
9780747275343

Did you know that Henry and James lived together for awhile?

Did you know that James stayed with Tony for awhile?

Did you know that James allegedly stole a camera from Tony?

With the money that Tony and Henry made off of Judy I'm sure that a new camera was bought.
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Why was Henry working for Quest? One of the biggest con men to walk the planet?

Judy, Please give the Kalahari Reticula aliens a rest after 22 plus years of having them blown out of the water. Your money train jumped the tracks years ago and won't ever pull into the station again. But look at the bright side, you have a camera to take pictures of the wreck.



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posted on Oct, 1 2011 @ 11:14 AM
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There's only a six year difference in ages between Wayne and James/Judy the sort

of age gap that is 'comfortable' between cousins or school chums with 'linked interests'

or even entrepreneurial hoaxer's! Indeed wasn't there a particular occassion when

Cynthia Hind had agreed to talk at one of James's UFO talks and was horrified when

she found out that people had been charged a fee on top of which James never turned

up and the money had gone missing!!!!

Well Wayne also does that circuit ( talks, supper and book signing included for a fee)

So you can't tell me all that cross traffic between hotels, talks, MUFON and Credo Mutwa

(known by both) that they 'had never crossed paths' or ' NEVER KNEW EACH OTHER'



posted on Oct, 1 2011 @ 11:36 AM
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You are correct. James set up a MUFON conference in SA, invited Cynthia to talk, took the money and ran. Cynthia never met James face to face.

My memory is not what it once was and I need to dig into my files to find this, but if I remember correctly, in one of Wayne's Facebook post about the alien signal, the Zeta Reticula angle was mentioned.

Sort of supports your theory. will try and locate that statement and post it later as it would tie them together more if I can locate it.
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posted on Oct, 1 2011 @ 12:22 PM
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Originally posted by dcmb1409

I have read a few threads this week on red mercury (is it real?) and its funny that Henry Azadehdel was running that scam pre-2003 somewhere in the mid to late 90's.

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While Henry portrayed himself as an audacious adventurer, to others he was the ubiquitous Man-in-Black. Stories circulated of his appearances; strolling through a Tokyo hotel lobby, for instance, just as he was spotted - like Oswald - leaving an embassy in Mexico. Rumours associated Henry with the deadly trade in Red Mercury, or the 'missing' Alternative 3 tapes, or parrots. He was twice reported seen in the back of a Soviet embassy limousine in Ottawa. As far as the three appeal court judges were concerned, however, Azadehdel all the while sold cans of pop behind the counter of his brother's suburban mini-mart. If they considered any of these stories a shade bogus, it was bogusity shaded with bold panache.

Source: www.mythologist.co.uk...
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They were considering producing a documentary on him at one time and its not clear if it was ever made. Henry is an old friend of Judy/James Van Gruenen and a partner of crime in England and scams around the world. There was even a mention of alien communications or a signal story that was on the horizon.





Hi dcmb,

on the mythologist website it does say that the film about Henry Azadehdel was shown on BBC4 in 2004 and at a film festival in 2006, I have been trying to track it down with no success.



posted on Oct, 1 2011 @ 12:40 PM
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Welcome back DrHammondStoat.

Thanks for the info. Would really like to find that documentary and watch it. Will dig around also and try to locate it.



posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 03:30 PM
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I recently received a couple U2's from members (didn't ask if I could use screen names, so I won't at this time) and an email from another member about "red mercury and scams." This was brought out because of a post about Henry Azadehdel (Judy's/James partner in crime) back in the 90's trying to sell red mercury in a hoax attempt and probably deserves a thread of its own.

But it does show how these thugs worked back then playing every angle for money regardless of the subject matter, controversy, or reality. They hawked concepts based on imaginative stories or imaginative items to line their pockets and stir up interest just as they are continuing to attempt today.

They were on top of what was currently hot in the dark corners and paranoid minds of some conspiracy theorist and the uninformed fanning the flames of uncertainties and fears.

I was ask to look for this episode for clues:

UK station Channel 4's 'Dispatches' program from 1993 and 1994, two episodes called "Trail of Red Mercury" and "Pocket Neutron"


Hoping to see a documentary that might mention "our" scammers by name, did a quick search and it seems (at least to my searches) that this video has been removed for one reason or another (maybe outdated). However I did read a few articles on red mercury and hoaxes like this one:

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. Some experts have suggested, however, that red mercury is in fact another name for lithium-6, a substance that can be used in the production of compact and highly efficient thermonuclear devices. Osmium-187 is a bona fide nonradioactive material not used for weapon construction, but because it is indeed an expensive commodity and one that is produced through a process similar to uranium enrichment, nuclear traffickers seized on it as a marketable product. This issue brief provides background on the two substances and summarizes some of the high-profile hoaxes in which they have been used.

source: www.nti.org...
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Back on the signal story front I might post later a montage of Wayneism's taken from his Facebook page, ATS, and the CNN rant where he contradicts and contradicts and contradicts his own statements proving that he never told a lie in his life.

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posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 05:11 PM
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Oh good grief... they tried to sell "Red Mercury!"



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