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Alleged NASA -Affiliated Astronomer Deciphers 'Intelligence' Signal From Nearby Stars

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posted on Nov, 10 2010 @ 11:49 PM
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More on the video:

Notice how, here, Judy claims credit for receiving an "alien signal" in a part of the spectrum where "no one was looking". Interesting that she's going to try to brazen it out here. Gotta admire that tenacity - hanging on in the face of being caught in a lie.

Even mentioned that it was allegedly a UV signal.

Notice also that she fails to mention the part about where it was picked up on a RADIO telescope, several, actually, all over the world, AT THE SURFACE! Which is, of course, a patent impossibility, even though it was her initial claim.

That, as a matter of fact, is what led to the exposure of this hoax as a LIE.

Notice also that she claims an "astrophysicist" discovered this alleged "signal" (a proveably FALSE statement), yet now she's not quite as eager to associate it with her name...

That's today's lesson in propaganda, boys and girls. What you DON'T mention is frequently every bit as important as what you DO mention!

BTW, is it just me, or does anyone else get the feeling that this video, and others like it which are sure to come, might be why MM was fishing so hard for names here?





posted on Nov, 11 2010 @ 01:29 AM
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Originally posted by nenothtu

The list of names is: RICH-ENGLAND, BIAD, nenothtu, eletheia, Merkury, Nitromaria, Bunken Drum, Marrr, Drunkenparrot, Portugoal, and M0r1arty.

Poor Drunkenparrot - only six posts in this thread and already labelled a disinfo and psyops agent.


... and that is how hiding in plain sight works!

Whilst me on the other hand managed to fly under the radar, phew!
It pays to be a hermit sometimes.



Notice also that she fails to mention the part about where it was picked up on a RADIO telescope, several, actually, all over the world, AT THE SURFACE! Which is, of course, a patent impossibility, even though it was her initial claim.

Yeah - this is getting old.
Just get in here Judy and give us some proof already.


Edit to add: I really couldn't be bothered to watch the whole vid - can you summarise pls neno?
edit on 11/11/2010 by Netties Hermit because: I REALLY couldn't be bothered to watch it at all actually



posted on Nov, 11 2010 @ 02:13 AM
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Originally posted by Netties Hermit
Originally posted by nenothtu

The list of names is: RICH-ENGLAND, BIAD, nenothtu, eletheia, Merkury, Nitromaria, Bunken Drum, Marrr, Drunkenparrot, Portugoal, and M0r1arty.


Poor Drunkenparrot - only six posts in this thread and already labelled a disinfo and psyops agent.


Drunkenparrot gave us the heads up on one of her PsyOps campaigns at another forum... which makes him obviously one of "them" to Judy... which means, by extension, he HAS to be one of "us"!

Incidentally, the "hit list" has grown. This was the original:


Rich-England nonethtu Nitromaria Eletheia Marrr and BIAD are all paid CIA Disinformation Agents and US Psyops Provocateurs


I found it moderately amusing that all of those were "US agents.".. Especially in light of exactly WHO on that list is in the US! I can count only one, possibly two.



Whilst me on the other hand managed to fly under the radar, phew!
It pays to be a hermit sometimes.



Don't worry, I'm sure she'll catch you next go 'round. After all, she included Portugoal because he mentioned feeling left out!



Edit to add: I really couldn't be bothered to watch the whole vid - can you summarise pls neno?


The video has actual interstellar radio background noise playing in the, well, background, starts off talking about SETI and radio astronomy, then abruptly (and subtley) shifts to this alleged "Infrared and Ultraviolet" signal (but keeps the RADIO noise going to try to bridge the concepts), claims the signal was real, discovered by an unnamed "astrophysicist" ( unnamed because YouTubers who would want to know more about her credentials would find out the same thing WE did), then launches into an attack against ATS as a "disinformation outlet", and those mentioned above personally as "paid disinformation agents". If I had a nickel for every time I heard that allegation... anyhow, it then goes on to say that the signal must be "important" for sekrit squirrels to have to "discredit" it - you know, the standard sales pitch.

As with all things Wayne Herschel and Judy Faltskog, it's long on rhetoric, and embarrassingly short on any sort of evidence. Best of all, any search on any of those names will lead right back to this thread, so it's free advertising, when folks decide to find out what the fuss is about.

Also, as Bunken Drum so ably observed, it utterly fails to address WHY TPTB would go to all this fuss, expense, and publicity to HIDE an allegedly "damaging and important" signal - instead of a quick, zombie-style head shot.

I dunno... I don't think I'd buy a script from her, either. This wouldn't even rate "B" movie status.
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posted on Nov, 11 2010 @ 02:18 AM
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... One of the people on the hitlist is actually Wayne/Judy/MM.
Guarantee it (my bets on BIAD- have felt a bad vibe from him since the beginning).


So you found me out heh?! A sleeper who showed politeness and if memory serves,
I only lost my temper once. I can't think how you guessed it was me?
'A Boy In A Dress'...? surely not.

Come on guys, the thread goes a lickle cold and we start chewing each other's feet off?

But thanks Portugoal, it implies I could be an author and I hate to stoop to blowing my
own trumpet, but I'll wager I can beat Mr. Herschel's 'pen' prowess hands-down.
Onwards....



posted on Nov, 11 2010 @ 02:21 AM
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Just a comment to say I hadn't seen that video or new my name was on her hitlist - poor lassie cannae spell never mind discern intelligent signals from the uV band on a radio telescope.

I best watch out for her invisible hit men friends.

I'll stay low so as not to get myself shot my an imaginary bullet carved with a satanic rite fired from that vampire gun.

-m0r



posted on Nov, 11 2010 @ 02:55 AM
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"The list of names is: RICH-ENGLAND, BIAD, nenothtu, eletheia, Merkury, Nitromaria, Bunken Drum, Marrr, Drunkenparrot, Portugoal, and M0r1arty.
Poor Drunkenparrot - only six posts in this thread and already labelled a disinfo and psyops agent."


Well how rude! It was only a few months ago that I, like Netties Hermit , was considered an 'agent' too. Maybe it's because I went into 'stealth mode' for a while.


There must be something not quite right with the legal summons that Judy's husband's agents were to personally serve on the various worldwide participants in this thread earlier this year. I'm guessing the legal papers like the agents are also special invisible ones.


edit on 11-11-2010 by DrHammondStoat because: please excuse my strange quoting fiasco!



posted on Nov, 11 2010 @ 03:20 AM
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Originally posted by DrHammondStoat

Well how rude! It was only a few months ago that I, like Netties Hermit , was considered an 'agent' too. Maybe it's because I went into 'stealth mode' for a while.

There you are!!
We have missed you.
How funny. Stealth mode seems to be the way to go - it's now my new M.O. lol

Originally posted by A boy in a dress

But thanks Portugoal, it implies I could be an author and I hate to stoop to blowing my own trumpet, but I'll wager I can beat Mr. Herschel's 'pen' prowess hands-down.

I was kinda gonna say that earlier, but thought it might have been a bit off-topic.
Wayne could only ever dream to write like our BIAD.


Originally posted by nenothtu

The video has actual interstellar radio background noise playing in the, well, background, starts off talking about SETI and radio astronomy, then abruptly (and subtley) shifts to this alleged "Infrared and Ultraviolet" signal (but keeps the RADIO noise going to try to bridge the concepts), claims the signal was real, discovered by an unnamed "astrophysicist"

Yeah - see, I'm kinda mathematically and physics/astronomy challenged -
I just need some evidence that I can understand PLS.
Especially now that it seems this 'hoax' is continuing ...

How about we start with some Judy Fältskog credentials:
- A Radio Astronomer working on the SETI project?
- An Astrophysicist / Theoretical Cosmologist - Spacecomm Systems?

Can we start with that AGAIN - then lets move on - for goodness sake it's been six months now.



posted on Nov, 11 2010 @ 03:45 AM
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Originally posted by Netties Hermit
Yeah - see, I'm kinda mathematically and physics/astronomy challenged -
I just need some evidence that I can understand PLS.
Especially now that it seems this 'hoax' is continuing ...

How about we start with some Judy Fältskog credentials:
- A Radio Astronomer working on the SETI project?
- An Astrophysicist / Theoretical Cosmologist - Spacecomm Systems?

Can we start with that AGAIN - then lets move on - for goodness sake it's been six months now.


Well, see, all of those CLAIMS have been made - and more - and yet, strangely, NO verification of those credentials has been forthcoming, neither from our investigations, nor (and this is FAR more telling) from Judy's camp. They have been afforded EVERY opportunity, have shown up here NUMEROUS times in all sorts of guises, and yet NEVER, NOT ONCE, presented ANY verification of ANY of the claims made.

They rant and rave, rail and whine, carry on something awful, and yet NEVER, NOT ONCE, provide anything at all by way of defense.

Judy claims a PhD from UC Berkeley. UC Berkeley says she never attended there.

Judy claims an association with NASA. NASA says they've never heard of her.

Judy claims to be an "astrophysicist", yet nowhere in that field is any of her work to be found.

Judy claims to be a "radio astronomer" (different avocation from astrophysicist), yet nowhere in THAT field is any mention of her to be found.

Judy claims to be a theoretical Cosmologist (different avocation from both radio astronomer and astrophysicist), yet has published NO work in that field, either.

Before anyone says "They're erasing all that off of the intertubes!", I'd like to point out that anyone working in any of those fields since 1993 would have left tracks in the PRINTED literature, of which copies can be found in ANY university library - and those copies have been PORED over looking for references! None were found.

Judy claims to have studied at a "prestigious German university", but wisely refuses to mention any name, so of course that one can't be checked out.

"Spacecomm Systems" turns out to have no offices in Germany, they are a domestic US operation that sells satellite data links... nothing to do with radio telescopes, astronomy, or NASA...

I'm noticing a pattern here...

Judy claims to have written an autobiography titled "The Aenstrian Revelations", yet the book itself claims to have been written, as an autobiography, by James van Greunen.

Judy claims to have received an alien signal via UV light on a radio telescope, an impossibility, and one that no actual radio astronomer would have ever claimed, KNOWING it to be impossible.

For all of her whining and squirming, she has NEVER, NOT ONCE, provided any evidence to back ANY of these claims.

I'm just not seeing a leg to stand on here in this claimed legal action she's threatening. I wish she'd get on with it, so we could get all of this into still MORE court records for posterity! I'm starting to wonder if perhaps WE could begin court proceedings, in order to get all this into court records, and force her to PROVE her assertions that we are "paid US government disinformation agents", or else pay the damages due for slander and defamation... I'm pretty sure she'd have to sell off at least 3 of those 4 radio telescopes she claims to own in order to pay those damages...



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posted on Nov, 11 2010 @ 04:16 AM
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I would like to nominate DJW001 and jumjum, both of ATS, for status as "prophets", based on information from this post, from page 66 of this thread, and posted on 2010/5/13:


Originally posted by jumjum

Originally posted by DJW001
reply to post by jumjum
 




It will come back even if it's proven false. It will credulously be cited as an example of a "whistle blower" mysteriously disappearing. The damage has been done.


Bubba, that's one of the single wisest pieces of postage ever made in ats. Bravo for your insight - no doubt gained through long, sad experience.

I would add one corollary: .."and whoever asks for readers to slow down and use their critical thinking skills before swallowing the story whole will be labeled an agent provocateur, and the mob be set upon him."


ATS sees roughly 2 prophecies a day which never come to pass... yet this one HAS proven accurate, and it was right under our noses!



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posted on Nov, 11 2010 @ 05:22 AM
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Well, Well, here we go again, yet another video from the Judy "MAFIOSA" Faltskog collection ...... only this time with a Hit List, "Watch Yer Sels" (Chatter Chatter of the teeth ! )

Back to the "Whickham message board link" (quoted by Rich England so many times).......
"www.knowhere.co.uk" Maybe Judy "MAFIOSA" thought christmas had come early, when she posted that message !

Did Janice take her secrets to the grave ?

That's a thought for the day !

Can always rush to Tesco's in Gateshead to bump into AnneH to claify that, she knew everything !!
(Making sure to avoid our BIAD by the veg, cause portugal thinks it could be Judy in a dress !! Ha Ha)

On the other hand maybe Janice Falcus/Van Greunen/Fugea, left a legacy way beyond the grave and maybe
James/Judy "MAFIOSA" was named on her hit list.

"THERE IS NO LEGACY RICHER THAN THE TRUTH"

Back to the hit-list by Judy "MAFIOSA" , she never answers any questions put too her by the named ATS's
on her hit list and she has missed a few out. Shame on her sel !

Off to Tesco's , need some more 'Gorgonzola' !!!! LOL!



posted on Nov, 11 2010 @ 05:50 AM
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I wish to air some of the accusations from Gorgonzola on Club Conspiracy to ATS as it concerns all ATS members.Her comments have been condensed by removing superfulous adjectives.

QUOTE.....Above Top Secret. com. is owned, sponsored and controlled by CIA and NSA

Ans.(1) I believe they are both US agencies and have no jurisdiction to operate outside of America. I myself am not paid, sponsored or controlled by them. Are any of you other ATS members ?


QUOTE.....I am stating this to cast a new light on astronomer Judy Faltskog who was targeted after she told a friend about a possible ET radio signal she discovered.

Ans.(2)...I think i am right in stating it has been proved on this site that she has no valid qualifactions as an astronomer (is only an amateur) Which FRIEND did she give this information to ? Wayne has publically stated that he hardly knew her !! (its on this thread somewhere)


QUOTE......They are spreading disinformation and lies about Judy Faltskog to discredit her story as a hoax so that the public will never find out the significiance of her 'discovery'

Ans.(3)...But then it is what it is just a STORY a FAIRY TALE as her so called 'discovery' has been discredited by more qualified people than me on this thread Nenothtu, Rich England, Phage, Bedlam, DCMB, to name but a few. All i believe far more qualified than Judy Faltskog. It was also proved on this site (if i recall rightly by DCMB) that she had never worked for NASA. I note she is no longer putting it about that she is a Dr.!!


QUOTE.....ATS is defaming her character spreading vicious lies accusing her of everything possible.

Ans.(4)...I think she is managing that all by herself ! As far as i can see no one here has said anything about Judy Faltskog that cannot be verified, and she has shot herself in the foot by claiming she has discovered the impossible ( see ans.3.)


QUOTE.....Their disinfo campaign has been going on for six months non stop.

Ans.(5)...Well that is because they are still waiting answers to the same questions put by Rich England regularly during this whole time. Interestingly the same evidence was asked for by the moderater on Club Conspiracy . He NEVER got an answer either.


QUOTE.....Think about this and see if you can connect the dots.......

Ans.(6)...Tut..Tut ..Tut...one of Waynes favourite cliches................


That is six questions answered !!! See Wayne, Judy its not that difficult about time you started answering the ones you have been asked.



posted on Nov, 11 2010 @ 07:41 AM
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@DrHammondStoat: [url=http://there-is-no-governor-anywhere.new-haven.org/node/75#comment-287]http://there-is-no-governor-anywhere.new-haven.org/node/75#comment-287[/ur l]

Last edit: @DrHammondStoat: Link won't both show and work correctly for some reason, you'll have to copypaste.
@Thread: The article is old, just relaying my answer to DrHammondStoat's comment on my blog.



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posted on Nov, 11 2010 @ 07:42 AM
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She's missing now?
Are you serious here? You're not pulling our chains with this article.



posted on Nov, 11 2010 @ 07:45 AM
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Just trying to link to my answer to DrHammondStoats comment on my blog..

Edit: My article is dated Thu, 06 May 2010 - 13:15 ,, so of course I do not claim she is missing now

edit on 11-11-2010 by HagbardCelineMytr because: clarification



posted on Nov, 11 2010 @ 08:22 AM
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I just tried posting a lengthy (took 25 minutes) post and when I tried posting it logged me out.


Damn. Must be Judy (seriously I'm not throwing that out as a possibility).

Well I'm just going to sum up the post in a short paragraph instead. *sigh* It really was brilliant.

Wayne,

You win. We really are all CIA agents. There are 12 of us (you are missing some). We meet once a year, the most recent meeting being in Stilges, Spain. We operate under the government front of the Bilderberg Group. It was brought to our attention that you pose a threat to the NWO we, as paid agents, took an oath to defend. But I have realized that we are wrong to do so.

Wayne, your hoaxes should be mainstream. I am very sorry I ever got involved in this (what the group liked to call) Operation CIA Agents on ATS (BIAD came up with the name
). Please Judy, I now beg of you that I be removed from the hitlist. The CIA isn't able to protect me from your forces and this is why I've decided to surrender and stab the others in the back. In exchange for removal from the hitlist, I will post pictures of all the other agents that are on your hitlist, so that you can better target them.

Once again, I'm sorry for trying to play a part in exposing how badly done your hoaxes were. Friends?



posted on Nov, 11 2010 @ 08:47 AM
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Rich-England - John Kiriakou


Merkury


Nitromaria and Bunken Drum


BIAD- Bret Hart


Marrr - (long time NWO agent) Matt Groening


Drunkenparrott - Matt Damon


Mor1arty- John Lear


eletheia - Will Smith


nenothtu- Gerard Butler (...no kidding)

* There it is Wayne/Judy/MM/every other persona you go by. The CIA cannot protect me from you. Just take me off that hitlist!



posted on Nov, 11 2010 @ 09:42 AM
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Originally posted by nenothtu
The list of names is: RICH-ENGLAND, BIAD, nenothtu, eletheia, Merkury, Nitromaria, Bunken Drum, Marrr, Drunkenparrot, Portugoal, and M0r1arty.


I feel cheated out of my moment of fame!

Is this something like the Scientologists do by declaring you fair game? Can I expect you guys to start vanishing one by one? Personally, I'm still waiting for the NSA to come pick me up from way back about page 40.



posted on Nov, 11 2010 @ 09:59 AM
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Originally posted by eletheia
I wish to air some of the accusations from Gorgonzola on Club Conspiracy to ATS as it concerns all ATS members.Her comments have been condensed by removing superfulous adjectives.

QUOTE.....Above Top Secret. com. is owned, sponsored and controlled by CIA and NSA

Ans.(1) I believe they are both US agencies and have no jurisdiction to operate outside of America. I myself am not paid, sponsored or controlled by them. Are any of you other ATS members ?


Technically, they're both chartered to ONLY operate outside of America, sort of.

The NSA has two major functions, signals intelligence and signal integrity. The first involves interception of communications and analysis of content. That is supposed to happen only outside of the US, with a plethora of weird and sometimes ambiguously conflicting rules that govern it, frosted over with a bias towards resolving the ambiguities one way or another depending on who's the director at the time. Some directors swing more towards privacy, some are more J. Edgar in style. You can actually grab the traffic from within the US if it's got one "dirty foot" i.e. the other end is an acceptable foreign target by law and that's where you get a lot of the current hooraw over tapping AT&T feeds. They can and do at times monitor domestic traffic if there is a PDD or EO that overrides the limits set by USSIDs.

The other function is crypto, keeping our traffic out of the hands of other guys, and that operates in the US as well as out. If you're an equipment producer who has an NSA crypto design module in their equipment, you'll be dealing with those guys.

CIA isn't supposed to operate inside the US, but like the USSIDS that govern the NSA, they can operate in certain ways here, but the FBI is supposed to do most of the heavy lifting in the US proper.

At any rate, wasn't she going to sic both of these on us back around page 40 or so? Why is she worried about them now? I thought they were her lapdogs.

As far as being paid, sponsored or controlled, does it count if you're occasionally an equipment vendor to one or both? I would assume that would hit "paid" and if you're doing the rare bit of NRE for them, it would possibly encompass "sponsored" and "controlled" to some vague extent. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to be InQTel.



posted on Nov, 11 2010 @ 10:00 AM
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Originally posted by Portugoal


I just tried posting a lengthy (took 25 minutes) post and when I tried posting it logged me out.


Damn. Must be Judy (seriously I'm not throwing that out as a possibility).


The ATS post eating monster has bitten me more than once.

If it gets over about five lines, I copy it to a notepad document every paragraph or so. The longer it is, the more likely it seems to be eaten.



posted on Nov, 11 2010 @ 12:35 PM
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... I was kinda gonna say that earlier, but thought it might have been a bit off-topic.
Wayne could only ever dream to write like our BIAD.


Thank you and I blushed when reading that.

The one thing that seems to get lost among all this -is I want it to be true.
I want to be wrong and that there was an intelligent message sent across the
void, I want it to eat my humble pie and know that even as I chow down on that
bitter crust, there is other life forms out there.

I'll even smile at the knowing that is was a small-framed girl... (disregarding her
dubious past)... with a NASA baseball cap -freshly bought from the VLA gift shop,
that found the signal and I'll grin like a Cheshire cat to know that our existence
as we know it -will change forever.

There well may be dark forces out there that work to thwart Dr. Judy Faltskog's revelation
and those same sinister agents may well insult and berate Wayne Herschel's theories,
but if there was only a website where these two people could go and show what they've
discovered, somewhere they could display their findings and know that the no matter
what, the evidence displayed would stand up to any rigouros testing.

If it was myself, I would locate a website that dealt with such phenomena, possibly
contact the site management and then cast this world-changing news out along with
the evidence for all to peruse.


But that hasn't happened, we're asked to believe something without proof, we're asked
to put faith in a person who has behaved questionably in the past and we're asked not
to demand proof from an author who shouts' dis-info agent' everytime we question his
theories.

So when I stack the shelves with canned products during the day and sometimes in the
early hours... (we open at 6.00am)... I ponder James/Judy's cry of faith and Wayne's
sage-like offerings and I always find myself asking the same the question...

Prove it.



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