Originally posted by zara_bow
FROM WAYNE >>>
Understand that my response is directed at Wayne as well,and not yourself. I understand that you are only the messenger.
It's a pity that Wayne will not come and debate the issues himself, although the offer has been extended many times. His refusal to accept a good
faith offer to redress his grievances and correct any factual errors with a preponderance of evidence leaves him no legal recourse, so he must resort
to these reprehensible sniping attacks and "light warrior" cyber attacks. Further, that failure on his part constitutes prima facie evidence that he
has no evidence to back up his allegations, and is just hoping no one notices.
Wayne lacks the courage of his convictions to enter an honorable debate, because he knows his actions are indefensible, and he has not a shred of
evidence to support his contentions.
The truth can always stand in a debate when supported by evidence, and sadly Wayne has neither truth nor evidence. Otherwise, he would come present it
as invited. Wayne fears debate, as it will certainly expose him as a hoaxer.
I'll extend to Judy Faltskog as well an invitation to come and present any evidence she may have that would refute any of the claims in this thread.
If she can do so, I promise right here in front of everyone to retract any statements I have made, or am about to make, that can be shown to be in
error by a preponderance of the evidence. Failure to do so removes any legal remedy she may have in the matter, against any party, since a good-faith
offer has been made to allow her to correct errors in a public forum. The only stipulation is that she must present evidence to refute the claims, not
just denials. The same would hold true in any court, but since the offer has been made and documented right here, court actions are not possible. If
she fails to appear to properly correct any errors she may think are present, there is no legal remedy. They are nullified by her refusal to accept
this good faith offer.
Wayne Herschel response to disinformation google bomb attackers November 2010:
Wayne claims "disinformation" here. I want him to PROVE this allegation, and prove it soon, with evidence. Failure to do so constitutes prima facie
evidence that this claim is itself disinformation.
I went to ATS to debate my work previously and it was a blazing attack at the highest degree ... not interested in details on the material... no...
they were looking for blood!
This is a LIE. Wayne did not come here to debate his "work", he came to defend this hoax, and his part in it. Here is a link to every post Wayne has
ever made (as himself) on ATS, all in this thread, and all on a single page for convenience:
All of Wayne's ATS posts
. Note that NOWHERE does he attempt to
debate his "work", unless he means to include the perpetration of this hoax in that "work".
The desperation trying to find the most pathetic of trivial things in my past they were hoping to find so they can smear me. Their target questions
were not on the material but on when I said something to Judy exclaiming this that and the next thing and is this not proof you are working on a hoax
with her ... cmon admit it ... come on... what about when you used the words....."...." is this not implying you are doing this for money????
The above link to all of Wayne's posts disprove these allegations as well. His "material" was never up for discussion in this exchange at all, either
by him or by us. Neither did we give a tinker's damn about his "past" or "smearing" him.
I am like anyone else living in a society dependant on money, designed by the elite... so what ever I can generate will be first to pay bills on my
shoestring budget I now live under, and if I could raise more money it would go to spreading the importance of these urgent issues that follow
We all need money to get by to a greater or lesser extent. What Wayne does different than most is to peddle fantasy as fact to people not in a
position to judge the facts for themselves. That is reprehensible, akin to stealing candy from babes, and is making living off of the backs of the
innocent. Wayne further tries to stack the deck in his favor by silencing opposition viewpoints, so that these same innocents don't get hold of facts
by which to test the veracity of the fantasies he peddles to them. He tries to mold their minds by barring access to dissenting views.
So its fruitless to debate against attackers who spend their days producing pages and pages of googlebomb words on the ATS site attaching my name with
fraud and hoax.
Debate IS fruitless when one has no evidence to offer against mountains of evidence provided by the opposition. In other words, Wayne can't hold his
own in a logical, rational, reasonable debate because he has no facts to back his assertions up. If he did, he would debate, since he would have no
fear of the truth, or of being shown to be perpetrating a hoax.
Especially on a website some famous people have clearly discovered there are people paid to slander important work here... a disinformation
This just means that famous people make a face when chewing sour grapes, too, and that they have no more evidence of their assertions than Wayne has -
which is to say none. "You Tube" videos alone are not evidence, they are entertainment.
My spiritual research is offering human uplifting reasoning behind the mysteries of all ancient paranormal events compared to my Near death
Spiritual research? An organic god who has to fly here in a space ship from another solar system is anything but "spiritual". By being an organism in
a physical body, it is the very definition of carnal, and the antithesis of spiritual.
"Human uplifting"? Hijacking the cultural treasures of others, and "reinterpreting" them to be something that they decidedly are NOT, all in an effort
to force them to serve your own personal agenda is anything BUT uplifting of their humanity!
In summary at oneism.org... :
I'm leaving the fuse to wayne's "google bomb" here, because I'm a nice guy, and because I think EVERYONE should read that and evaluate it for
It presents an insight very respectfully honouring all religion and shows masses of forgotten/hidden detail that uplifts humanity. Information that
could end the suffering of the oppresed, introduces free education and proposes urgent charitable changes to stop the starving 2 billion people dying
that have been worked out of society.
Stealing the religion of another and forcing it into your own, thereby stripping it of it's individuality and identity to force it to fit your own
mold is not respectful, it is DIS-respectful. It is not honoring that religion, it is DIS-honoring it.
It is completely in support of The Christ ...
Wayne's cult does NOT support Christ as Christians define him, and I'm prone to allow folks to define their own deities. Wayne's "christ" is entirely
opposed to the Christian Christ (didn't they identify so strongly with him that they took their very NAME from him?). Wayne's christ changes the
Christian Christ so much as to make of him something else altogether, in opposition to the Christian version, "against", "anti-". Wayne's christ is an
antichrist. He is NOT the christian one by the time he is hijacked, debased, and forced into Wayne's new cult.
it is not Anti-Christ ...
it defines that the Creation of the Universe... God... spoke through this man Yeshua... The Christ 2000 years ago.
Yeshua". the deity of Christ is a cornerstone of Christianity. Without that pillar, their Christ is christ no more. He is then
"anti-christ", as he stands AGAINST their Christ.
It also proposes there will be a possible second coming... and asks many to be open to the possibility a person riding a cloud might be riding a
flying disc inside a cloud.
Here we have EVIDENCE, from the hand of Wayne himself, that he is demoting the Christ of the Christians down to a mere flying saucer jockey, in the
same vein as von Daniken's "Ancient Astronaut" gods.
I propose why this is so with masses of ancient references of the visitors worshipped as gods in history that are depicted in disk like objects.
I've got no problems with the Ancient Astronauts crowd, but I think it is a dangerous thing indeed to co-opt currently worshipped deities, from ANY
religion, and try to force them into your own. That's bound to upset the adherents. Can't wait 'till he tries this with Islam.
So... if this is a dangerous cult...
... which it is...
it is dangerous for one group and one group only...
It is dangerous to any and every group, religion, culture and credo, because it tries to hijack most of those to force them into it's own mold,
subverting their independence, integrity, and individuality in the process. Furthermore, it is dangerous to them because it insists on silencing
dissenting voices, and erasing dissenting opinions. we've seen him, right here in this thread, attempt that by force, subversion, and even blackmail,
so it's not something he can convincingly deny.
Silencing dissent is the first sign of a despot.
The super rich Elite funding disinformation and the abomination of these watchers trying to fault good cause!!!!
I can't really comment here, because by saying "super rich Elite", he clearly hasn't included ME in his rant. I still want to see SOME kind of
evidence of this "disinformation" he keeps carping on about. It's one thing to make a spurious claim, but quite another to back it up. He has
consistently failed to back this one up. That is because he CAN'T, he has no EVIDENCE.
Try and Google ATS undercover disinformation.
I did. How do you think I found your ATS attack page - you know, the one that leads folks right back here, where they can find facts and evidence to
counter your nebulous and spurious claims?
edit on 2010/11/5 by nenothtu because: (no reason given)