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Alleged NASA -Affiliated Astronomer Deciphers 'Intelligence' Signal From Nearby Stars

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posted on Oct, 4 2010 @ 03:13 AM
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We can't say for a fact that it's the DC from here - I mean the guy gets his girlfriend to write for him it could be Detective Comics he means or a whole different meaning altogether.

I'd like to talk to his 'advanced IT' folk. Seems logic and fallacy isn't something they concern themselves with.

Can't be very good.

Well I might as well help out a little bit too, I mean ATS is a high PR'd site with plenty of meta power on the net:

Wayne Herschel fraud. Wayne Herschel fake. Wayne Herschel shyster. Wayne Herschel transsexual. Wayne Herschel hoax. Wayne Herschel pyramids. Wayne Herschel Mars. Wayne Herschel liar. Wayne Herschel unreliable. Wayne Herschel untrustworthy. Wayne Herschel clues. Wayne Herschel dug his own grave. Wayne Herschel hidden records of falsehood.

There you go Wayne Herschel!

Give us all a shout when you want us to actually spend some time exposing you beyond the realms of ATS.

I've got a lot of time on my hands at the moment


-m0r




posted on Oct, 4 2010 @ 04:05 AM
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Originally posted by m0r1arty
reply to post by nenothtu
 


We can't say for a fact that it's the DC from here - I mean the guy gets his girlfriend to write for him it could be Detective Comics he means or a whole different meaning altogether.


Or he could be getting set to expose the entire District of Columbia...

In that connection, I found it almost ovrewhelmingly amusing that one of his "light warriors" claimed that Wayne's "higher ups" were visited by US Government folks in connection with their dinky little cyber war, and poor old Christopher claimed he personally was visited by the NSA! Scary stuff, eh? those folks must be IMPORTANT to draw THAT kind of attention! ROFLMAO! I know it's true... it's posted right there on Wayne's wall!



I'd like to talk to his 'advanced IT' folk. Seems logic and fallacy isn't something they concern themselves with.

Can't be very good.


One would think logic is relatively important in IT work, but there is a disturbing lack of it anywhere within 100 miles of Wayne...



Well I might as well help out a little bit too, I mean ATS is a high PR'd site with plenty of meta power on the net:

Wayne Herschel fraud. Wayne Herschel fake. Wayne Herschel shyster. Wayne Herschel transsexual. Wayne Herschel hoax. Wayne Herschel pyramids. Wayne Herschel Mars. Wayne Herschel liar. Wayne Herschel unreliable. Wayne Herschel untrustworthy. Wayne Herschel clues. Wayne Herschel dug his own grave. Wayne Herschel hidden records of falsehood.

There you go Wayne Herschel!


I really just wanted to repeat that... often... the more the merrier, eh?



Give us all a shout when you want us to actually spend some time exposing you beyond the realms of ATS.

I've got a lot of time on my hands at the moment


-m0r


Well, I'm actually looking for a number of web hosts at the moment - ones that ain't skeert of a few dozen "light warriors" armed with flashlights or light cybers...err, I mean light sabers, or whatever it is they think they've got.

I'm just about to have a pdf file to donate to the world for free, in as many venues as I can find. Like I said, the more the merrier, eh? The tentative working title for it is "Wayne Herschel: The Hidden Agenda". Sort of has a ring to it, doesn't it?

I also have a whole lot of backups of blogs, important, hard work that need a few gozillion homes all around the 'net. If you have any leads, toss me a U2U.

I wonder if the NSA would be interested in hosting a blog? I hear in the wind that they're helpful sorts...



Wayne Herschel fraud. Wayne Herschel fake. Wayne Herschel shyster. Wayne Herschel transsexual. Wayne Herschel hoax. Wayne Herschel pyramids. Wayne Herschel Mars. Wayne Herschel liar. Wayne Herschel unreliable. Wayne Herschel untrustworthy. Wayne Herschel clues. Wayne Herschel dug his own grave. Wayne Herschel hidden records of falsehood.


I just wanted to repeat that again, just because I like the sound of it...




edit on 2010/10/4 by nenothtu because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 4 2010 @ 04:27 AM
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If you liked that you should try running any of those terms through Google and see that this is the first result for most of them (Pyramids needed quotation marks to be first) and certainly within the top 4 for the few which are currently more popular elsewhere.

Mr. Herschel, I'd recommend bowing out gracefully just now because you have been proven a fraud and I have no problem with extending that proof beyond ATS at the slightest provocation.

Contingencies are already in place.

Take your defeat, dry your eyes and try and add something worthwhile to the community.

Like atheism critical thinking isn't going away and it's decided to get a set of sharp teeth to stop new areas of disinformation forming from those who would exploit the feeble minded.

-m0r



posted on Oct, 4 2010 @ 04:28 AM
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Wayne ALSO had this to say on Facebook. Looks like he's trying to resurrect the Judy Faltskog Saga, and breathe new life into the UV radio signal hoax. Some folks just never learn. It's like trying to beat a dead horse back to life.


-Wayne Herschel- ‎140 EARTH-LIKE PLANET DISCOVERIES LEAK REVEALS MORE...
... ONE IS SENDING SIGNALS! ... OF THE LIGHT KIND...

The public laughed when someone recently claimed light signals were being detected from what can only be interpreted as alien life. The person making the claim was butchered by bloggers in every imaginable forum where the public were persuaded by at least 10 incredibly active bloggers determined to make this person look crazy... so much input work by this angry group. One wonders why they went to the extremes they did? Were they funded by someone? Is it a cover up?

They were partly successful in forcing the public to believe this light signal 'HOAX' was the most ridiculous hoax imaginable.

Then ... suddenly... in a matter of weeks two famous astronomers... Jill Tarter and Micho Kaku both made official statements that we should be looking for light signals from ET because its a better medium. Coincidence perhaps?

Now... the unthinkable... as the information leaked a week ago of masses of secret data proving the existence of over 140 Earth-like planets were covered up...

Then a scientist yesterday comes forward and takes the light signal thing to a whole new level, saying:

"Okay.. about the Earth-like planet data leak thing... um... well...

ONE OF THESE PLANETS IS SENDING LIGHT SIGNALS

... and almost all media seem to ignore the magnitude of the claim as if it is a forbidden topic.
See More
Gliese 581g mystery: Scientist spotted 'mysterious pulse of light' from direction of new'Earth plane
www.dailymail.co.uk
A member of the Australian chapter of SETI had been sweeping the skies when he discovered a 'suspicious' signal from an area of the galaxy that holds Gliese 581g.


Source. Get it while it's hot, before it melts away.

Note that there are TEN of us working to thwart the "forces of light", that we are an "angry group", and that the insinuation is made AGAIN that we may be "funded by someone" or engaging in a "cover up"...

Further note that he's trying to HIDE the fact that the original story was that the light signals (in UV) were being RECEIVED BY A RADIO TELESCOPE by neglecting to mention that very important facet of his and Judy's elaborate HOAX - which Wayne is STILL trying to perpetuate!

I especially liked the way he tried to twist it around here:


They were partly successful in forcing the public to believe this light signal 'HOAX' was the most ridiculous hoax imaginable.


Yes, yes it IS the most ridiculous hoax imaginable. I stand by that assessment, and am willing to go all the way to my grave screaming it to the entire world. That means I still have several more years of screaming to do...

Did I mention the Wayne Herschel hoax ?


edit on 2010/10/4 by nenothtu because: I needed to fix pesky speeling and punctuation errors - because I'm bad.



posted on Oct, 4 2010 @ 04:35 AM
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Also the possible light signal didn't come from Gliese 581e as promoted by ineffectual journalism (Such as his recent Daily Mail story) but from the Tucanae region and was detected in December of 2008 and not recently as he states.

Seems like he is reading some of what's on ATS but not all of it (Or at least the correct bits).

At least I know my message will be getting to him directly now :p

-m0r



posted on Oct, 4 2010 @ 03:51 PM
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Originally posted by nenothtu

-Wayne Herschel- ‎140 EARTH-LIKE PLANET DISCOVERIES LEAK REVEALS MORE...
... ONE IS SENDING SIGNALS! ... OF THE LIGHT KIND...

The public laughed when someone recently claimed light signals were being detected from what can only be interpreted as alien life. The person making the claim was butchered by bloggers in every imaginable forum where the public were persuaded by at least 10 incredibly active bloggers determined to make this person look crazy... so much input work by this angry group. One wonders why they went to the extremes they did? Were they funded by someone? Is it a cover up?

They were partly successful in forcing the public to believe this light signal 'HOAX' was the most ridiculous hoax imaginable.

Then ... suddenly... in a matter of weeks two famous astronomers... Jill Tarter and Micho Kaku both made official statements that we should be looking for light signals from ET because its a better medium. Coincidence perhaps?

Now... the unthinkable... as the information leaked a week ago of masses of secret data proving the existence of over 140 Earth-like planets were covered up...

Then a scientist yesterday comes forward and takes the light signal thing to a whole new level, saying:

"Okay.. about the Earth-like planet data leak thing... um... well...

ONE OF THESE PLANETS IS SENDING LIGHT SIGNALS

... and almost all media seem to ignore the magnitude of the claim as if it is a forbidden topic.
See More
Gliese 581g mystery: Scientist spotted 'mysterious pulse of light' from direction of new'Earth plane
www.dailymail.co.uk
A member of the Australian chapter of SETI had been sweeping the skies when he discovered a 'suspicious' signal from an area of the galaxy that holds Gliese 581g.


Source. Get it while it's hot, before it melts away.

I saw this a couple days ago. Got on the line and informed the Major about it. Unbelieveable isn't it. Staff meeting Thursday 6GMT.



posted on Oct, 4 2010 @ 03:55 PM
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Oh, and uhm Wayne, Michio Kaku is NOT an astronomer. He's a theorhetical physicist ya tool. Do some homework.



posted on Oct, 4 2010 @ 03:59 PM
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Oh NOES! You DIDN'T tell the Major about it! You KNOW how he gets

Someone will have to get the break-stick to unclench his jaws now...

And stay away from his fists, in case he starts twitching again....



posted on Oct, 4 2010 @ 04:12 PM
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Yes indeed. He was quite impressed with the presumption of there being ten of us on this assignment. Knowing damn well we aren't staffed for that presently, it was humourous. I even heard a cigar being lit

I'm torn though about asking for that extra week of vacation at the meeting Thursday. He was chuckling though and proud of us, but still stern and sullen as always, so maybe.

edit on 4-10-2010 by Marrr because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 5 2010 @ 12:16 AM
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is it major alan "dutch" schaefer by any chance? GET TO DA CHOPPAAAAAAH


thanks

rich



posted on Oct, 5 2010 @ 01:47 AM
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Project update:

The information has been converted to a document format, and is in the process of being edited and arranged. It's a HUGE volume of stuff that is going to have to be trimmed down considerably.

Various outlets are in the process of being set up, and it's my understanding that several already ARE set up. "Scatter shots" from the flashlights of "light warriors" won't even be able to get them all - not by a longshot. Some may even turn out to be absolutely bullet-proof.

New working title is: " The Hidden Agenda : Wayne Herschel, Judy Faltskog, and the Hoax Heard 'Round the World".

Traps are set for certain individuals who may have a bit too high an opinion of their abilities.

Now the bait is set, too.



posted on Oct, 5 2010 @ 07:08 AM
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Well, I couldn't be bothered with 138 pages of this, so I skimmed. I feel I've got the gist.
Some masterful jobs of debunking & simultaneous character assassination. Always warms the heart to appreciate fellow artists' work...
I'd usually tend towards the Baroque, but, in this instance, I think Bauhaus is best. Thus:
Wayne Herschel utter bollocks.



posted on Oct, 5 2010 @ 07:21 AM
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Marr i just love your location !

Wayne has a "pick and mix" mentality, and i notice he is very cautious about mentioning the "J" word.

RECENT QUOTE......The public laughed when someone recently claimed signals........... he cant even bring

himself to to say Dr Judy Faltskog of NASA and SETI, bit of a difference from a couple of months ago!!!!!



posted on Oct, 5 2010 @ 04:44 PM
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Edit to add: I thought it might be good to restate Wayne's words here, to make the comparisons and connections easier for folks.


This is from his Facebook page:



To DC ... I have your name and will expose further activity of you on the net. We have numbers with advanced IT people on board.


and:


-Wayne Herschel-
I will only expose the DC characters name on the internet IF he continues his abusive activity.

He is a dangerous person and Im warned he must not be provoked as it is most likely this person who has made serious threats.


Wayne ALSO said this:



...my IT friends who spent hours looking for the characters involved with the activity.



Just wanted to add that right after the threats Wayne issued that are documented in the above post, one of his minions had this to say:



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Christoph Wäcker Many thanks to all. Some of the help, that were higher-ups recieved some threats from theU,S go vmint. I got a nice little visit from the N-S-A. It was no fun. But Wayne, we WON! even if this was a small battle!
2 hours ago
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Christoph Wäcker well, honestly this is NOT the only thing I have done that goes against the rules. But I do have my passport comming. Even though I do not need it now.
about an hour ago · 1 person
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Christoph Wäcker Some might quit when they recive a "cable toe" length of rope. But all of us has to meet our maker, and some will go with a smile
I Ask of all of you too help each other through the hard times. Humanity wins when we help each other in peace and love.
about an hour ago · 1 person


The entire Facebook post containing the above threats has been deleted, and I just thought it might be good to keep them in public, for posterity. Maybe it's just me and my paranoia - does anyone else perceive "veiled" - or not so much so - threats there, with that and what Wayne had to say taken together?

Appropriate measures for immediate actions have been taken, as well as distribution through channels for proper followup investigatory work in the event any untoward occurrences should happen.

Like I said, I don't take threats kindly. I don't play, either. Folks want to live in a fantasy world, fine, but don't export it by force into my real world - the real world will eat you, and not even burp.

If anyone wants copies of the text document conversion of the now defunct blog ( .odt format for Open Office, 8.4 MB, including the graphics of the documents from Germany, etc.) U2U an e-mail address, and I'll spread 'em right on out. I'm a firm believer in wide dissemination and decentralization. Unfortunately, I'm not sending advance copies of the actual "book" yet - I think surprise can be the very spice of life!

When folks wanna dance, I put my dancing shoes on and grin. I love a good party.
edit on 2010/10/5 by nenothtu because: I wanted to make the reading flow easier.



posted on Oct, 5 2010 @ 10:51 PM
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Originally posted by nenothtu

Christoph Wäcker well, honestly this is NOT the only thing I have done that goes against the rules. But I do have my passport comming. Even though I do not need it now.

Christoph Wäcker Some might quit when they recive a "cable toe" length of rope. But all of us has to meet our maker, and some will go with a smile
I Ask of all of you too help each other through the hard times. Humanity wins when we help each other in peace and love.


WTH does that all mean anyway?
Mr Wäcker?
Can you clarify?

Now if I was a paranoid kind of person I would be worried about those above statements. But it is facebook we're talking about here.
And the name is Wäcker.

Mr Herschel, nenothtu is a bit ummm ... cranky I think.
It looks like it's his turn to dance.
And I think your name is on his dance card.



edit on 5/10/2010 by Netties Hermit because: Formatting



posted on Oct, 6 2010 @ 06:25 AM
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It's been a while, but I'm happy we're back on this thread.
Here's a true tale, it did really happen.

I was packing bags with groceries -a couple of weeks ago
and the store was just quietening down for an easy evening.
Two guys of around 25 years-old came in and bought some
cigarettes.
The two young men wore identical long black leather coats,
white shirts, black narrow ties and groomed van-dyke beards.

I smiled to myself as I thought of these two being stereotypical
TV-driven Secret Service chaps with long barrels hidden under
those night-coloured garments.

As Wayne knows, my job working in a Supermarket is just a cover,
I really race around in a nice fast car and wear expensive suits to
take out bad guys that sometimes show up in other series from the
same TV company... but I digress.

So running to my 'Mind-Room' where BIAD was sat sipping a long
Gin & Tonic with a sprig of juniper sticking out of the top, I alerted
the man/girl to the situation.
He sighed and put down his 'Deep-Southern-Way' drink and followed
me back to reality.

The two guys were still stood in front of my checkout -when BIAD asked
"are you guys Low Men?"
The one with the ginger beard glanced back at his compadre and whispered
"we're going to a Fancy-Dress party"
BIAD grinned and cooed 'I like the coats, you must be Bounty Hunters, nuh?"

The man at the rear, the black-bearded and more serious of the two quipped
"we're here on business" and showed his teeth to indicate he was joking.

BIAD said softly "for a moment, I thought you were Herschel's boys" and this
drew confused looks from both of 'em. I handed them their cigarettes and took
their money without any more verbal exchange.

It wasn't until BIAD said " I've always had a penchant for MIBs" and showed his
'no-eyes, big grin' expession, that the 'serious' guy responded with "we're gonna
have to come by this way again"

They left with their long coats a-swishing.

BIAD went back to his drink with a remark tossed over his shoulder "I'll keep
a weather-eye out for those two.
I straightened my uniform and wondered how he could do that... without eyes
-I mean.

It's good to be back.
edit on 6-10-2010 by A boy in a dress because: Left High heels in Edit Room.



posted on Oct, 6 2010 @ 12:15 PM
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That's just asking to get one's ass beat. He sure is a tough guy living on another continent and talking all of that trash and lies. I seriously doubt he has anything of sustance on our co-worker.



posted on Oct, 6 2010 @ 05:38 PM
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Project update:

Here is my introduction to the book. Let me know if you see any glaring errors or omissions so I can fix it before "publication", which will consist solely of converting it to PDF format for distribution.





The Hidden Agenda :


Wayne Herschel, Judy Faltskog, and the Hoax Heard 'Round the World


Edited by nenothtu



===================================================





Editor's Introduction

This work is a labor of love. It's the work of several people, all of whom have but one desire – exposure of hoaxes, meant to mislead the trusting, and separate them from their hard earned money by means of prevarication, making up stories out of whole cloth and then selling them to a unsuspecting public either through middle men, as is the case with Ms. Faltskog, who has a history of creating sensational stories out of thin air, then trying to sell the together with spurious documentation to real researchers, or directly, as is the case with Mr. Herschel, by peddling books made up of complete flights of fantasy, luring in the unsuspecting with teasers thrown out on the internet.

Always, in the end, and frequently at the beginning and middle as well, there is the plea to “buy the book for the full story.”

We aren't selling this book. We give it away freely, in the hopes that some of the unquestioning followers , and more importantly perhaps, POTENTIAL unquestioning followers, will read it and see the hoaxes for what they are: smoke and mirrors, no reality, no substance.

A means to pick your pockets, and make you like the experience.

Some of the material herein has been edited for spelling, punctuation, and grammar – but not for content. It is what it is, and that is an eye-opener for those who care to SEE, rather than unquestioningly believe. In these pages you will run into charlatans peddling snake oil, serious investigators who have been duped, and at times NEARLY duped by the promises that the snake oil salesmen sell, and the intrepid crew of www.abovetopsecret.com, the investigatory bulldogs who brought this quarry to ground and sounded the alarm world wide.

World wide.

If, after reading this book, there are still those so desperate to believe that they allow themselves to be duped, then that is by their own choice, a willful sort of ignorance. It won't be our faults that the charade continues, we've done our jobs.

The Truth is out there. We know it is, because we gathered it together and put it there. What you do with it is your own choice.

Nenothtu

6th October, 2010


I'll be including dcmb1490's introduction from the blog as his introduction as well.

The work of editing, arranging, and correlating the material that constitutes the actual meat of the book is proceeding along nicely. I'm thinking that RICH-ENGLAND'S documentary evidence will go nicely as an appendix for reference, and a central location to go to for the readers, as it is referenced throughout the book.

For you graphics wizards, I'm going to need a catchy cover for it. The working title is listed in the quote above (the first part before the introduction is directly from the title page), but keep in mind that this is a "first edition", and will likely be followed by updated editions, so any wording specific to this one may be subject to change, so keep a backup of the image without the text on it for future reference.

Wayne, if you're still asking yourself if I'm serious, then yeah, I AM.

Serious as a heart attack.
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posted on Oct, 7 2010 @ 02:16 AM
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HAHAHAHA!

Thrashing about the 'net, doing some up to date research for a section of The Project I'm currently working on, I found that Bedlam is STILL crunching numbers for SETI@home, on the same team Judy was "working" for - NASA Ames! Judy is still on the Ames listing, but her profile page appears to have fallen off of the internet, and I reckon she's no longer active.

Bedlam, on the other hand, is now in second place for work done on behalf of SETI.

Bedlam, you rock!

Can I call you "Dr." Tom O'Bedlam now?
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posted on Oct, 7 2010 @ 07:55 AM
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I think the cover would look nice with BIAD dressed up (hotly please) as an NSA agent.
At least on the fly-leaf, eh?

Oh, a dumb question, too. How do you pronounce wacker when it has those dippity-dots over the 'a'?


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