reply to post by SunFlare
I'm only harsh if I perceive a need to be. Then I'm VERY harsh. Otherwise, I roll with what's running. All I want to get at is the truth of the
matter, I've no interest in beating anyone down that doesn't need it.
You must understand, though, that the initial claim had a lot of people excited. When it turned out to be a false alarm, a lot of people felt terribly
let down, and some reacted harshly. I understand that from your perspective, that was Wayne's fault for releasing unverified information that was
given to him in confidence.
The problems arose when someone, some where, tried to run with the story anyhow, and force it to be true, even after it was debunked, for lack of a
better word. THAT action caused a lot of folks to feel betrayed, and to feel PURPOSELY misled. I DO seem to recall Judy trying to back out of it early
on, but some one, somewhere, in this convoluted web of players just wouldn't allow that, it seems.
THAT tended to tick a lot of people off, and when people feel they are betrayed that badly, they will often lash out. When they felt they'd been lied
to, well, they had a need to dig and find out what other untruths they may uncover. It lessens the sting of being 'taken in' if you can excuse
yourself by saying that you were taken in by a pro. Not much lessening, but some. You can tell yourself it could have happened to ANYONE, since it was
a pro that huckstered you.
So folks started digging to see what other hoaxes these folks may have perpetrated. In the course of that digging, a lot of leads were uncovered that
might best have been left covered, dealing with personal issues unrelated, perhaps, to the central issue at hand.
That's when the strike-counter strike sort of infighting began.
Yes, indeed, it's a tangled web, but it CAN be untangled, even now. The catch is that if it is untangled by only one side or the other, THAT is the
side that gets presented. Better if co-operation is involved, to get a more complete picture, an understanding of just what really happened.
Considering the volatility involved at this point, I believe that attempting to shut this thread down, legally or otherwise, would be the wrong course
of action. First, this thread is the one that all the search engines lead to at this point, and it would make better sense for the whole story to be
told in it. If it gets zapped, that will only raise HUGE questions in the minds of the rest of the world, wondering just what we were on to that had
to be squelched.
we're not special here. Anything WE could find, WILL be found by others, with much the same result - except your side of the story won't be told,
since it was shut down.
Second, human nature being what it is, I can almost guarantee that if this thread is shut down, the entire mess will pop up again elsewhere, without
your input again, and most likely without your ability to shut it down at all.
Look at WikiLeaks, and the run they've been giving an entire government. When something like that is the case, what hope do you really objectively
harbor that you will have more success than the United States Government?
No, I think attempting to close the thread is exactly the WRONG course of action.
Wayne came here, ostensibly to present his case, but in actuality to promote his book. Wayne wasn't honest and forthcoming with us, and Wayne
couldn't, or wouldn't deal with us on our terms, he couldn't handle criticism or give honest answers, so Wayne left for a few minutes to take a
shower, and hasn't gotten back to us yet.
In the end, Wayne WILL be exposed in all of his nefarious hoaxing glory. That's because he ran and hid, and we can't treat that dessertion any other
way. You quoted the bible above. Try this one on for size: "the wicked flee when no man pursueth". An honest person will not run or squelch open
discussion. When someone demonstrates that they have something to hide, it will generally be perceived to be dishonesty, and then it's on. What is
concealed will be brought to the fore.
My advice is to NOT let that happen to Judy, as it most certainly will happen to Wayne. Wayne can't support his position, but tries to from afar, and
squelches any dissent.
Trust me on this - that will NOT be allowed to go unanswered.
Edit: for pesky spelling errors, to which I am sublimely prone.
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