Do you know what is cynism ?

Originally posted by Nans DESMICHELS

You blind !
USA are still a hell, and we dont want france to become like that...
And I dont think that you are an intelligent person :
You tell me that PARIS is dirty and unsafe ?
Go in LONDON, Go in NEW-YORK, LOS-ANGELES...
You'll find that france is a good place to be.
The story you told upper... It's the same life in every metropolis worldwide...

Anyway, I got nothing to prove you.

[Edited on 9-3-2003 by Nans DESMICHELS]

Sorry I've been makin' ya fight a one-man battle, there UP. Had I know what was going on woulda came here and tried talking some sense into the ignorant.

Oh..... so the US is hell, huh, Nans? Hm..... Be we talkin' about the same US? Or is this some parallel dimension US that we are talking about? Cause I can tell ya this: being a long-time resident, it is definately not hell. OK, maybe in my town, cause the mayor's an imbecile, but...

New York may be dirty, but it's not because of crappy cheese(yes, as i understand it, it is the french who invented limburger). It's because, hey, it's a dog-eat-dog world out there, and apparently those who live sheltered lives do not realize this. Have you ever been to NYC, Nans? If you have been there more than once like I have, then tell me what it's like.

My grandother's been to London, Nans, and se gave it a good report. My unlce used t' live there, so she visited. Now, she said that it was a very clean and secure city, which i believe, cause she'd of been all "Oh, London was horrible!! They have no sanitation officers at all! I hould go up there and clean it now!" Is this another case you you not knowing what the hell you're alking about(hey, those seem pretty common lately)

LA is the only one of those cities you mentioned that is dirty unsafe and unsanctioned. It is the scourge of US metropolitan living, what with the highest taxes in the country and most banl robberies.

Now Nans, I've been to New York, and some people are willing to help; some are not. Not like in Paris(or at least UP's version) where you could fall and nobody gives a damn.

I wish you could have listened to William when he said "Think before you post" cause i just proved everything you said worn.

Signing off,
HLW

[Edited on 3/9/03 by High_Lord_Warrior]

You and Ultra are nothing but post bashers. All you can do is make fun of and belittle. Not to mention it always comes in the form of cultural context, which is racist. So please stop this madness for the sake of humantiy. Also why even bother with Nans and her Anti-ness?????? She wants to think that way so let her. All you need to do is show her why she is wrong. But what do you two do??? You jump her and her heritage just like she does to you. So you have become that monster, just to let you know. What is that monster you ask???? HATE.

Originally posted by Abraham Virtue
You and Ultra are nothing but post bashers. All you can do is make fun of and belittle. Not to mention it always comes in the form of cultural context, which is racist. So please stop this madness for the sake of humantiy. Also why even bother with Nans and her Anti-ness?????? She wants to think that way so let her. All you need to do is show her why she is wrong. But what do you two do??? You jump her and her heritage just like she does to you. So you have become that monster, just to let you know. What is that monster you ask???? HATE.

do you realize that I did not post any anti-french things until Nans started her anti-US and pro-9/11 crap? I defend my country. If somebody makes fun of the US, I can't sit there and say "Oh, poor me, someone is attacking my country..." No, I'm the kinda guy who gets up, grabs a gun, and says "Yeah, let's fight." I'm a major patiot, and so is Nans, and I must say that that is something very respectable. Nans started this, not me or UP.

It was UP and everyone else's choice to make anti-french topics, which started this discussion. I DISCOURAGED this and yet have come here to fight my battle.

You need to keep in mind that nans started this, and she can finish it, only if she just gives up making fun of the US. This is a strongly pro-US board, and to poke fun is to stick a tree branch in a hornet's nest. Hate to say it, but it as folly for her to start this, and now she refuses to admit she was wrong.

And the French are not a race. They are European, which is a race. That's like saying Kenyans are a race, but blacks aren't. Besides, wouldn't Nans be racist since she made fun of Americans? heh, I believe I got ya there.

Signing off,
HLW

Originally posted by Abraham Virtue
You and Ultra are nothing but post bashers. All you can do is make fun of and belittle. Not to mention it always comes in the form of cultural context, which is racist. So please stop this madness for the sake of humantiy. Also why even bother with Nans and her Anti-ness?????? She wants to think that way so let her. All you need to do is show her why she is wrong. But what do you two do??? You jump her and her heritage just like she does to you. So you have become that monster, just to let you know. What is that monster you ask???? HATE.

You say that "all you two do is jump her and her heritage just like she does to you". So what makes her different? You are saying UP is a bigot and racist because he is attacking Nans and her country but Nans is constantly attacking America. What is the difference? You just admitted Nans is doing the same thing. Why do you choose to defend Nans if she is also being a bigot and racist? And you say they are just "post-bashers", have you read the majority of Nans posts? She just bashes America over and over and over. So maybe neither side is right, but why do you choose to defend Nans? Did you read her 9/11 post that was a huge factor that started this? Nans is no less the monster than what you said of UP and HLW.

Also, I was hoping that we could keep things in English for us non-French speaking members.

Abraham Virtue, gimme a break with your racist sauce.

Why are you allways seeing racism & racist everywhere ? For you, when someone don't agree with you or Nans, he/she's a racist.

Did you never think to go to a psy Dr ?

I'm glad to know that other user have a different opinion than your, i.e : HLW & PA.

PA, sorry for the french, but I didn't ask about it.

that since they are the race of Europeans then it is not racist or biggoted to say the French suck????? How is that?? I don't really care what you think is patroitic because I know your pride in patroitism is only your macho man mentality controlling your mind. So what if Nans is racist too? Did I say she was or wasn't?? No, I said you were. I know that you get on to her because of her degrading talk on your government and the only reason you feel a need to do that is because you are a patroit. I understand that. What I don't understand is why you can't put her in her place, not by threatening and assulting her but by teaching her, showing her, telling her. Talk reasonable, like reasonable adults. Can you do that? I hope you can. I know that jokes or comments about the horrific death of others is sick and sinful but, so is hate towards the sinner. Did you ever her the term, hate the sin, love the sinner? Well you might want to use that tactic, or else you will be over come by rage and feelings that the devil and death love to see in you. Do you think God is looking down on you with pride just because you hold ALL allegiance to your country, some man made creation of pagan worship, do you think he is happy with this patriotism in us all, whether we are Iraqi, French, or Marxists, do you think this is what he wanted?

Well if you do, then tell me now and I will give up on you and tell you to come back to me after you have read alot of history about Europe so that you could tell me how little you really knew about what a European is. The term European is as made up as the term Palestinian, mind you both terms were whole creations of the Black Nobillty of the Royal Family in England. So get your mind right and stop taking groups of people from the human race, like the French and making them the butt of the joke to the rest of the world. One day I will probably her you say they are inferior. Is that what you believe, that they are not worthy?? I think you do. I think if some French guy come knocking at your door bleeding and crying that you would most likely second guess him and even belittle him for being such a "Winey Frenchie" as you would call him. Why give more gratification to Americans or Chinese over French and Iraqis?????? They are all the same, they are all human and they are all worthy of God whether you think they are or not!!!!!!!!! You See?

[Edited on 11-3-2003 by Abraham Virtue]

I think we should go crush the Iraqis. I wouldnt want to go to war either with a country that brings in a ton of profit for me. Shoot id even betray an ally that saved my ass many times for soem oil and cash. But since they are a threat to us we WILL obliterate them. I am even thinkin we need to show france who is boss because if it wasnt for the Isrealies Saddam would have a nuclear weapon now thanks to the French and your prime minister. Look into that story everyone who reads this. Your dear Leader has soem close ties with saddam. France who has never won a war since nepolian should be kicked off the main security council or at least get its veto powers off. But the final word is, is that France will join or side once the bombs start droppin which will happen with or without the security council. All they want is to be with the US when we occupy Iraq they wanna cut. Bush shouldnt give it to u lil pigs he should give u and russia a deadline either ur with us now and reap the benefits or ur not and go home and screw ur self. Hey i love french ppl notin wrong with them spec. the women but ur prime minister should be next thank you.

QUICKY..........................................OUT

Originally posted by High_Lord_Warrior
I wish you could have listened to William when he said "Think before you post" cause i just proved everything you said worn.

You just prove me nothing. Maybe mayor Rudolph GIULIANI "secured" NYC (And crually learned that some jobs never ends !), but there are still homeless helpless peoples. Maybe Manhattan is a good place to be, but what about QUEENS, HARLEM, THE BRONX ?!

I'm only at 2 hours from london with EUROSTAR and really : London os a shame for the british people.
Youn want to know what are the consequences of an ULTRA-liberalist politic ? Go to london, you'll understand : RAILROADS are now private in UK :
Trains are so dirty that glasse are opaques, not transparents.

You say french have dirty NYC ? I remind you that Lady Liberty had been made by G.EFFEIL, A french !
You same that we are ungrateful ? I remenber you that only last year, in ivory coast, french soldier were here to save americans citizens.
They was fools for save your lives ?

Americans, you just feel superior because your country sell Mc-Do and Coke and Nike and Hollywood worlwide !

You just are blind, but one day, someone will taje off your sunglasses from your eyes and maybe you'll know that there is a great world, who do great things for PEACE, FREEDOM, EQUALITY AND JUSTICE.

I'll give you an example : FRANCE

You think that we need your Sh-T Mc-Dos Hamburgers to eat ?
We have one of the best gastronomy worldwide.



You think that we'll be thirsty with your "GASOLINE-LIKE" soda COLA ?
Our wine and waters are really good, for taste and for Health.

THINK ABOUT IT...

US STAY HOME !

Originally posted by Abraham Virtue

1) I know your pride in patroitism is only your macho man mentality controlling your mind.

2) but by teaching her, showing her, telling her. Talk reasonable, like reasonable adults. Can you do that? I hope you can.

3) Well if you do, then tell me know and I will give up on you and tell you to come back to me after you have read alot of history about Europe so that you could tell me how little you really knew about what a European is.

4)and stop taking groups of people from the human race, like the French and making them the butt of the joke to the rest of the world. One day I will probably her you say they are inferior.

5) Why give more gratification to Americans or Chinese over French and Iraqis?????? They are all the same, they are all human and they are all worthy of God whether you think they are or not!!!!!!!!! You See?

1) Hey, I remember a song " Macho macho man ", it was the Village Peoples, right ?

2) Yes I can. And I DID IT IN FRENCH with her, via u2u. Do you know what she/he told me ? She/he will never dare to write again, in a post, what she wrote me in her/his many u2u !!!!!!!!!!!!! May be that I'll do a special topic on that matter ( what she/he wrote me in her/his u2u ). You'll be very very very surprised !

3) I'm living in the EU. What do you want to know ?

4) What ???? We can't do like them ??? Anyway, I don't think that frenchie are inferior. I think that France is a country betrayed by her policy makers. France took the highway to Hell, in 1968 with their so-called students/leftist revolution and in 1981, when they voted for their first socialist President, Fran�ois Mitterand. In fact, I'm very very sad for France and her peoples.

5) And what ? Am I supposed to don't agree with you ?
That's what you want ?

Originally posted by ultra_phoenix

But by teaching her, showing her, telling her. Talk reasonable, like reasonable adults. Can you do that? I hope you can.

He say that because I'd told him that Occident World and Muslim had nothing common. That's true
And that Arabs are moron because they got a bad gestion of their ressources. That's also true

I'm sorry, I'm short on time.
It'd 11h43 in paris, I'm gonna have a lunch.
I'll explain what I said later...

Originally posted by Nans DESMICHELS

Originally posted by ultra_phoenix

1) But by teaching her, showing her, telling her. Talk reasonable, like reasonable adults. Can you do that? I hope you can.

2) He say that because I'd told him that Occident World and Muslim had nothing common. That's true
And that Arabs are moron because they got a bad gestion of their ressources. That's also true

1) I didn't write this. I just quoted it. Clean your glass.

2) With you, one day it's black, the next day it's white. Could you have some continuity please ?

Whatever I love all of you people anyways. So my question to you Ultra is if you really feel so sad for the French then why is it that you are so eager to go to war with their country??? I understand that France and it's big weapon making giants are close finacially to the Iraqi regime, but then again our foreign policy makers are just as slut like in the bed of Saddam in the past. That was when he was gassing Kurds and Shia's. We were told to declare him a menace, but we told the rest of the world that Saddam's murder was something the United States government was going to let happen and that we didn't even want to talk about it. Gee I wonder why? Maybe because the man was the US government's pawn against the Iranian Islamist movement. So please, if your going to deplore one of the criminals then at least don't do it in the name of another criminal. You know who is guilty of 4500-6500 Iraq deaths every month. You know. You See?

Originally posted by Nans DESMICHELS

You just prove me nothing. Maybe mayor Rudolph GIULIANI "secured" NYC (And crually learned that some jobs never ends !), but there are still homeless helpless peoples. Maybe Manhattan is a good place to be, but what about QUEENS, HARLEM, THE BRONX ?!

I'm only at 2 hours from london with EUROSTAR and really : London os a shame for the british people.
Youn want to know what are the consequences of an ULTRA-liberalist politic ? Go to london, you'll understand : RAILROADS are now private in UK :
Trains are so dirty that glasse are opaques, not transparents.

You say french have dirty NYC ? I remind you that Lady Liberty had been made by G.EFFEIL, A french !

You same that we are ungrateful ? I remenber you that only last year, in ivory coast, french soldier were here to save americans citizens.
They was fools for save your lives ?

Americans, you just feel superior because your country sell Mc-Do and Coke and Nike and Hollywood worlwide !

You just are blind, but one day, someone will taje off your sunglasses from your eyes and maybe you'll know that there is a great world, who do great things for PEACE, FREEDOM, EQUALITY AND JUSTICE.

I'll give you an example : FRANCE

You think that we need your Sh-T Mc-Dos Hamburgers to eat ?
We have one of the best gastronomy worldwide.

You think that we'll be thirsty with your "GASOLINE-LIKE" soda COLA ?
Our wine and waters are really good, for taste and for Health.

THINK ABOUT IT...

US STAY HOME !

.............................................?

Ya got me confused here, Nans... you have truly crossed a sentient line.... from the side of self-aware intelligence into the land of Babble.

Heh..... Guess what? Harelm, Queens(which is half-decent, may I remind you), and the Bronx residential areas. That's like judging the entire area I live in on just my town.

Secondly, I never said anything about American products in France... This just proves to me that you can't stay on one point. But while we're here..... Did you know that the US uses more products it doesn't need from France than the French use from the US? That shoots down your idea that we think you rely on us(which you do rely on us, look at this) .... Cause you do(again).... you get approx. 24 BILLION dollars from us every year, an when you subtract the cost of the products we send you.... it's a good little profit. You get about 5 billion dollars a year from the US that goes to your struggling economy.

I have never had French food, so I cannot critique it, but I must say that no one here eats it unless they are french-American. Heh.... you must need us for food, if you are eating Mickey D's(which sucks... You should try Burger King of Wendy's... now that's food).

Oh... and one last little thing.......... Where are you getting this that wine is good for a human being's health? It has alchohol in it.... Which, by the way, is the same crap in beer, brandy whiskey, shots... All that stuff that you seem to think is evil. Just had to give you the heads up.

Signing off,
HLW



P.S. I'm trying to keep things civilized here. Going and calling people "bigots" and "racists" in a post about someone's ignorance about the american people is foolish. So AV, if you're going to defend Nans, do it on the same basis that has been going on. Use evidence of your country's foolishness to defend her, not "racist and bigot" comments. Thank you for considering.

[Edited on 3/11/03 by High_Lord_Warrior]