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posted on Mar, 8 2003 @ 07:56 AM
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Originally posted by Abraham Virtue
Won't the struggle to maintain the Iraqi state be a contradiction to our ability to profit off of the war?????? The war itself will cost some 80 billion dollars, some say as high as 200 billion.


Um..... Now, did anyone here say that the US was the saint of the world? No. Which seems to be "our thought" that you're pointing to, as well as the fact that "we think" that US citizens who want this war don't understand the immense cost. Well guess what, mr. Virtue... Nothing comes without a cost. Are you against WWII? It lasted years longer than this little skirmish will..... and cost much more(relatively, our money is worth less than it used to be) than this will. And we destroyed the fool who was a danger. This what we will do here. We will protect our "allies"(I still don't trust people like Saudi Arabia and Kuwait) from this madman and we will spare the Iraqi people the torture of having Saddam as their ruler.

I seems to me that you draw all this to the US's "discomprehension" of this war. The only ones who have this discomprehension of the situation are you, Nans, and our "president", Bush.




posted on Mar, 8 2003 @ 04:56 PM
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Ce que je vous dis ici n'est pas seulement un personnel, mais bien le sentiment de tout un peuple, et mes des nation unies toutes entieres :
Nous avons ÈtÈs surpris et blessÈ de la maniËre avec laquelles votre president actuel, Georges W BUSH, ý rejeter nos tentatives pour garantir la paix et la souverainetÈ des Ètats, membres permanents ou non de l'ONU.
Si nous sommes opposÈs, en majoritÈ en France, en Allemagne, en Belgique et en Europe en general ý une deuxiËme guerre du golf, c'est que nous nous rendons bien compte que la premiËre guerre du golf a ÈtÈ un echec, un fiasco qui ý plongÈ le monde entier dans la rÈcession et la crise Èconomique. Nous considerons GW-BUSH comme un "vas-en-guerre", quelqu'un qui n'ayant pas pu capturer les veritables responsables des attentats 11 septembre cherche par tous les moyen ý justifier auprËs de ces ÈlÈcteurs une action et des resultats concrets et ce ý n'importe quel prix.
Tous les experts en terrorisme international vous le dirons : Il n'y pas de lien entre AL-QAEDA et Saddam HUSSAIN. A maintes reprises, Ben LADEN ý critiquÈ SADDAM, notamment parceque SADDAM HUSSAIN a ÈtÈ Èlu ý la tete d'un partis socialiste progressite, et non islamiste.

Bush fils nous semble vouloir terminer ce que Bush pere n'a pas su conclure !

Ceci dis, et je peut comprendre que pour vous qui Ètes de nationalitÈ americaine et resident sur le sol amÈricain celý peut vous paraitre etrange, mais vous ne savez pas qu'au fond, L'anti-americanisme se nourrit de la sur-domination amÈricaine.

Pour nous qui sommes Ètranger, l'amÈrique ý deux visages :
Celui qu'elle vous montre ý travers les media, Hollywood et la television : Celui d'une amerique qui defend les vrais valeur, le patriotism et la libertÈ.
Mais pour nous qui vivons au dehors, nous n'y voyons qu'un geant, un titan et aussi un tyran, qui nous impose des modes de vies, de consommations etc ... Qui cherche ý absorber nos cultures et toujours nous imposer sa volontÈ par la force, au mÈpris de la souverainetÈ et souvent de la vie des peuples du monde.

Voilý, j'avoue que je regrette un peu d'avoir decouvert votre forum dans une periode aussi mauvaise. Ca fait maintenant plusieurs annÈes que j'enquete au sujet du nouvelle ordre mondial (Que j'appelais jusqu'ici "Planification de la sociÈtÈ"), des sociÈtÈs secrÈtes et des armes de nouvelles technologies (Notamment les armes psycho-electroniques).
Je sais que mon pays, qui est loin d'etre un pays parfait, fournis pas mal de materiel ý votre nation, notamment des radar HF micro-ondes et des pulseurs VLF, par l'intermediaire de MATRA-DASSAULT-THALES (Ex-THOMSON) consortium, mais Áa, ce sera pour une autre thread...



posted on Mar, 8 2003 @ 05:49 PM
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Hello Nans DESMICHELS,

Thanks for posting in French. Below is the French to English translation of your post provided by:


freetranslations.com...


Indeed,

This that I say you here is not only a personnel, but well the feeling of all a people, and my united nations completely: We were surprised and injured manner with which one your current president, Georges W BUSH, to reject our attempts to guarantee peace and the sovereignty of the states, permanent members or no of the Un. If we opposed, in majority in France, in Germany, in Belgium and in Europe in general to a second war of the golf, this is that we return well counts ourselves that the first war of the golf was an echec, a fiasco that to dived the entire world in the recession and the economical crisis. We considerons gw-bush as a "vas-en-guerre", someone that not having been able to have captured the responsible veritables of the attempts 11 September looks for by all the means to justify with these ÈlÈcteurs an action and concrete resultats and this to any price. All the experts in international terrorism you will say it: It not there any link between al-qaeda and Saddam HUSSAIN. To many returns, Ben LADEN to criticized SADDAM, notably parceque SADDAM HUSSAIN was elected to the tete on a part socialist progressite, and Islamist no.

Bush sons seems for us to want to finish this that Bush pere did not know to conclude!

This says, and I can understand that for you that nationality Ètes americaine and resident on the American ground celý can you paraitre etrange, but you do not know that to the bottom, THE ANTI ANTI-L'anti-americanisme ANTI L'anti-americanisme nourishes itself of the on American domination.

For us that are foreigner, the america to two faces: the one that she shows you through the media, Hollywood and the television: the one of an amerique that defend the true values, the patriotism and liberty. But for us that let us live to the outside, we do not there see that a geant, a titan and also a tyran, that imposes us methods of lives, of consumptions etc... Who tries to absorb our cultures and always to impose us his will by the force, to the contempt of the sovereignty and often life of the peoples of the world.

Here, I had that I regret a little to have decouvert your forum in SUCH BAD periode. Ca does now several years that I investigation on the subject of the world-wide new order (That I called so far "Planning of the corporation"), corporations exude and weapons again technologies (Notably arm them psycho-electroniques). I know that my country, that far of etre a perfect country, furnished not poorly materiel to your nation, notably radar HF microphone waves and pulseurs VLF, by the intermediaire of MATRA-DASSAULT one-THALES (Former thomson) consortium, but that, this will be for another thread...




Vous pouvez continuer aussi poster dans Nans anglais. ..it marques de comme le beaucoup de sens.

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posted on Mar, 8 2003 @ 07:42 PM
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If you are not racist then why is it that Nans has to defend her whole nation against your degrading and inflammatory speech; or exuse me blabber. If you can answer that one without fooling yourself than be my guest. Otherwise just learn to live with this moments' life lesson and probe into your POSSIBLE FAULT. I mean it's like you don't have any and Nans does because she's a pacifist and a thinker, not a sheep like you with no ambition of her own. I think you like to pick on the people you think you would be at ease to belittle, so to make your weak self look bigger than you really are. Kind of like how our government acts. If you and this country had any sense you wouldn't preach hate and war to the rest of the world. Not to mention degrade those who don't agree with your country's unfair war-mongering attitude.

You even went as far as mentioning that because I oppose this war, it is likely that I opposed WWII. That just shows how far your mind goes before it stops thinking. You sir are one who needs to grow up and respect other people and their views. Stop tryting to impose your will on others. Don't tell me you aren't because if you weren't you wouldn't even bother talking to Nans, much less making fun of her. I think if anyone should be kicked it is you for you constant harassment opon her and the country of France. Mind you this harassment comes in the form of Anti-ness towards anything that doesn't fully and blindly authorize leaglized murder and rape opon a starving and oppressed nation.



posted on Mar, 9 2003 @ 05:03 AM
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Originally posted by deleted

Hello Nans DESMICHELS,
Thanks for posting in French. Below is the French to English translation of your post provided by:
freetranslations.com...

"vas-en-guerre" : A person who think that war is the only solution to solve conflicts.

To many returns, Ben LADEN to criticized SADDAM, notably because SADDAM HUSSAIN was elected ahead of a socialist-progressit party.

Bush sons seems for us to want to finish this that Bush elder did not know to conclude!

This says, and I can understand that un-americanism is a sttange things, but it's a reality worldwide. Instead your governement try to hide it to you.

"Social Planing"),
corporations exude and weapons again technologies
(psychotronics weapons).

I know that my country is not a perfect country.
We sells weapons radar HF microwaves and EM/pulsors VLF, (MATRA-DASSAULT-THALES consortium),

but that, this will be for another thread...


Vous pouvez continuer aussi poster dans Nans anglais. ..it marques de comme le beaucoup de sens.
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En effet !
Right !

3 Remark :

1) If echelon translate foreign language with the same algorythms, It dont work !

2) When U_P say that he is not rascist...
I doubt
Could you tell me what is your politic apartenance so ?!


3) I got a big default : I think in french and I try to translate french in english. But there are a lot of idiomatics expressions that are simply UN-TRANSLATABLE.



posted on Mar, 9 2003 @ 05:44 AM
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Abraham Virtue, I'm not racist, but it's true, I don't like France and what France is doing just right now. And I don't think that I'm racist cuz I don't like what a country and his peoples are doing.

And for Nans, I can write her/him what I want. Because if I'm racist when I write that I don't agree with her/him, it means that she/he's racist too when he/she don't agree with me.


I'll agree with you on one point : " your constant harassment opon her/him and the country of France ".

But she/do the same over the USA and those who don't agree with her/him !

Oh yeah, one last thing. Go live in France and you'll understand my point of view. I did it, so I know them ( the french ), much better than you.



posted on Mar, 9 2003 @ 06:02 AM
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Nans, even when you write in french, it's hard to understand you and what you mean. You're not writing like an adult but like a teenager. How old are you ? 14 ? 16 ? Because if you are really an adult, you have to go back in school. My poor english is better than your so-called french.

You did 45 spelling errors in your so-called french text !!!!!!!!!!
And I will not say anything about your grammar, who's like your spelling : very poor !

Also, what you wrote is not true. The whole europe is NOT behind France and Germany. In fact, France and Germany are really alone in the EU.

Here, the good text without any errors :

Ce que je vous dis ici n'est pas seulement un sentiment personnel, mais bien le sentiment de tout un peuple, et mÍme des nation unies toutes entiËres :
Nous avons ÈtÈs surpris et blessÈs de la maniËre avec laquelle votre prÈsident actuel, Georges W BUSH, ý rejeter nos tentatives pour garantir la paix et la souverainetÈ des Ètats, membres permanents ou non de l'ONU.
Si nous sommes opposÈs, en majoritÈ en France, en Allemagne, en Belgique et en Europe en gÈnÈral ý une deuxiËme guerre du golf, c'est que nous nous rendons bien compte que la premiËre guerre du golf a ÈtÈ un Èchec, un fiasco qui ý plongÈ le monde entier dans la rÈcession et la crise Èconomique. Nous considÈrons GW-BUSH comme un "va-tíen-guerre", quelqu'un qui n'ayant pas pu capturer les vÈritables responsables des attentats 11 septembre cherche par tous les moyen ý justifier auprËs de ces Èlecteurs une action et des rÈsultats concrets et ce ý n'importe quel prix.
Tous les experts en terrorisme international vous le dirons : Il n'y pas de lien entre AL-QAIDA et Saddam HUSSEIN. A maintes reprises, Ben LADEN ý critiquÈ SADDAM, notamment parce que SADDAM HUSSEIN a ÈtÈ Èlu ý la tÍte d'un partis socialiste progressiste, et non islamiste.

Bush fils nous semble vouloir terminer ce que Bush pËre n'a pas su conclure !

Ceci dis, et je peut comprendre que pour vous qui Ítes de nationalitÈ amÈricaine et rÈsident sur le sol amÈricain cela peut vous paraÓtre Ètrange, mais vous ne savez pas qu'au fond, L'anti-amÈricanisme se nourrit de la sur-domination amÈricaine.

Pour nous qui sommes Ètranger, l'AmÈrique ý deux visages :
Celui qu'elle vous montre ý travers les mÈdia, Hollywood et la tÈlÈvision : Celui d'une AmÈrique qui dÈfend les vrais valeur, le patriotisme et la libertÈ.
Mais pour nous qui vivons au dehors, nous n'y voyons qu'un gÈant, un titan et aussi un tyran, qui nous impose des modes de vies, de consommations etc. ... Qui cherche ý absorber nos cultures et toujours nous imposer sa volontÈ par la force, au mÈpris de la souverainetÈ et souvent de la vie des peuples du monde.

Voilý, j'avoue que je regrette un peu d'avoir dÈcouvert votre forum dans une pÈriode aussi mauvaise. Ca fait maintenant plusieurs annÈes que j'enquÍte au sujet du nouvelle ordre mondial (Que j'appelais jusqu'ici "Planification de la sociÈtÈ"), des sociÈtÈs secrËtes et des armes de nouvelles technologies (Notamment les armes psychos-Èlectroniques).
Je sais que mon pays, qui est loin d'Ítre un pays parfait, fournis pas mal de matÈriel ý votre nation, notamment des radar HF micro-ondes et des pulseurs VLF, par l'intermÈdiaire de MATRA-DASSAULT-THALES (Ex-THOMSON) consortium, mais Áa, ce sera pour un autre topic.



posted on Mar, 9 2003 @ 06:31 AM
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I know your not racist. No you can't be racist if you dislike a nations stance, but if you are abusive towards that nation for any reason, you are more and more likely to become a potential racist. You See?????? What I am trying to preach here is that you and Nans WILL disagree, that's life, people have to disagree somhow or else they would be the same, right? Well maybe if we didn't try so hard to change others and tried to change ourselves, for ourselves and for others than we would actually start seeing a common ground. You See? Next time, if you don't understand Nans or even if she offends you, don't just protect yourself by countering her statement, but PROBE INTO her statement as well. Find out why she thinks that way and then you can begin to understand her better. So it's all about how you handle what is given to you that makes what you get back worth it. Does that make sense??? I wish to see us all in deep discussion about society and it's moral threshold. I personally think that is the issue which seperates you from Nans and I. So once again I'm sorry for my remarks, and I admit they were statigically placed for effect on your psyche. I wanted your attention and knew that would get it. That can be a cheap shot if you like but I call it a smart shot. Sorry for the bluntness, I can be painfully honest at times. What it comes down to is I know that you are not hateful but that you maybe hateful of hate itself, which is understood. The problem is hate is hate. So the only way around it is LOVE. You See?????????????



posted on Mar, 9 2003 @ 07:17 AM
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Originally posted by Abraham Virtue
I know your not racist. No you can't be racist if you dislike a nations stance, but if you are abusive towards that nation for any reason, you are more and more likely to become a potential racist. You See?????? What I am trying to preach here is that you and Nans WILL disagree, that's life, people have to disagree somhow or else they would be the same, right? Well maybe if we didn't try so hard to change others and tried to change ourselves, for ourselves and for others than we would actually start seeing a common ground. You See? Next time, if you don't understand Nans or even if she offends you, don't just protect yourself by countering her statement, but PROBE INTO her statement as well. Find out why she thinks that way and then you can begin to understand her better. So it's all about how you handle what is given to you that makes what you get back worth it. Does that make sense??? I wish to see us all in deep discussion about society and it's moral threshold. I personally think that is the issue which seperates you from Nans and I. So once again I'm sorry for my remarks, and I admit they were statigically placed for effect on your psyche. I wanted your attention and knew that would get it. That can be a cheap shot if you like but I call it a smart shot. Sorry for the bluntness, I can be painfully honest at times. What it comes down to is I know that you are not hateful but that you maybe hateful of hate itself, which is understood. The problem is hate is hate. So the only way around it is LOVE. You See?????????????


Yes, I understand you AV. But you have to know something. If many peoples don't like France it's for a good reason ( What' s a good reason " anyway ? ). France and frenchies are seeign themselves like the centre of the Universe. " We are " La France " ", " we have allways right ", etc...etc...

They are responsible for their behaviour.

Also, you don't know it, but in the beginning, I tryed to help Nans. We were communicating via u2u ( in french & english ), and I think that I tryed to have an adult behavior with Nans. Almost impossible, he/she was too much childish.

Check the forum, and you'll see why all these anti-France craps started. It's difficult to communicate with someone who's allways playing with your nerves in a childish way. I'm living near France ( fortunately, NOT in france ), and I have to deal with them all the saint journey ( radio, tv, newspaper, policy...). You know, they are really boring those frenchie and its not difficult to becomme a basic anti-french. I've many friends, from many different horizon ( Asia, Africa, Eastern europe ) and we share all the same opinion : WE DON'T LIKE FRANCE AND WE THINK THEY ARE NUTS ! When so many peoples from so many horizon don't like something or someone, sure, there is a good reason. I bet we will find that reason in France,especially in their frenchie " who know everything and have allways right " behaviors.



posted on Mar, 9 2003 @ 07:28 AM
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Go live in France and you'll understand my point of view. I did it, so I know them ( the french ), much better than you.


If you have the same attitude on a discussion forum and in everyday life, I understand why my compatriots was so unpleasants with you...
Heu... What is your AMERICA if France is center of the UNIVERSE ?! Central-America .?!
(Enfin lý, je suis pas sure que tu puisses comprendre)

Ha, Et pour les fautes d'Orthographes dÈsolÈ mais on est sur l'internet hein :
Ha... X sure that OrthograFFX correxion is a usage on the 3-Web.
(sucker)

So, USA must leave UN, Muslims all are terrorists, Frenchs Germans and Europeans against the war (70% of europeans) stinks. And you ARE NOT as stupid as rascist ?!


[Edited on 9-3-2003 by Nans DESMICHELS]



posted on Mar, 9 2003 @ 07:47 AM
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Originally posted by Nans DESMICHELS

Go live in France and you'll understand my point of view. I did it, so I know them ( the french ), much better than you.


If you have the same attitude on a discussion forum and in everyday life, I understand why my compatriots was so unpleasants with you...
Heu... What is your AMERICA if France is center of the UNIVERSE ?! Central-America .?!
(Enfin lý, je suis pas sure que tu puisses comprendre)

Ha, Et pour les fautes d'Orthographes dÈsolÈ mais on est sur l'internet hein :
Ha... X sure that OrthograFFX correxion is a usage on the 3-Web.
(sucker)

So, USA must leave UN, Muslims all are terrorists, Frenchs Germans and Europeans against the war (70% of europeans) stinks. And you ARE NOT as stupid as rascist ?!


[Edited on 9-3-2003 by Nans DESMICHELS]


Ha, et quand on appartiens a un pays dont le president se fait a moitiÈ etrangler par un minuscule Bretzel heu...


merci !


[Edited on 9-3-2003 by Nans DESMICHELS]



posted on Mar, 9 2003 @ 07:52 AM
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La moindre critique (CRITICIZE ON US) contre votre land of freedom et vous vous mettez a HURLER a l'ANTI-AMERICANISM et au terrorisme. Remarquez que peut-etre qu' UP et PA ne spnt pas non plus les plus REPRESENTIVES des US CITIZEN !



posted on Mar, 9 2003 @ 08:16 AM
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Originally posted by Nans DESMICHELS

If you have the same attitude on a discussion forum and in everyday life, I understand why my compatriots was so unpleasants with you...


No Nans, when I first went in France, I was " neutral ", I din't have any backed idea against your country and citizens.

But facts are facts.

What did I see and heard in Paris ?

A city who's looking like a bin. Peoples who are all selfish and arrogant. Peoples who don't mind and care about each other. My first day in Paris, I saw a woman who felt on the ground and NOBODY helped her. NOBODY NANS !!! The worst thing, the peoples were not noticing her, like if she was NOTHING, not a humanbeing, just " something " on the soil !!!

Fortunately for her, 2 friends and I helped her. We took her to a Police Station where 1 police officer called an ambulance.

Do you know what ? The officer and even the women were surprised that we helped her and when we told them that US, WE were suprized with what we saw, the police officer laughed deeply and loudly !


Is it because she was/is black ? No, I don't think so. Nobody helped her because nobody care and mind for other ! SELFISH AND ARROGANT "Parisiens " !

Also, I can speak how you are driving. In Paris, peoples are driving like if it was an F1 GP championship ! Completely irresponsible ! I saw too much peoples who were completely drunk and were driving like Mad Max. I tellya, if you have to drive in Paris, and if you want to stay alive , you'll have to drive with an M-1 Abrams MBT, and I'm not kidding !!!


And the air in Paris.....MY GOD, what a stinky city !

Unsafe and unsecure ( in some place, don't forget to take with you your Assault Rifle and many clips !!! ), unclean and stinky, that's how is Paris. If someone ask me how were looking Sodome and Gomorhe, I'll tell him to go in Paris. He'll have a pretty good idea on how were looking these 2 towns.

The " Parisiens " ? : Selfish, arrogant, very unpolite, agressive with almost evrybody ( except when the peoples are looking much powerfull than themselves ), also, they are all looking sad and not clean.

Oh yeah, I forget something. Most of them ( minimum the 2/3 ) are very stupid. I never saw so many peoples with a so low I.Q. and a so big knowledge lack on many general matters and who were thinking that they were the best in the world !


Paris is just a big bin,a garbage, fullfilled with many craps !

Go in Germany, Belgium ( not in Bruxelles
), in Luxemburg, Netherlands, Switzerland, Danemark or Austria and you'll see a big difference. I went to these country, so, I can do and I know the difference between France and these nation.

Paris sucks ! France sucks ! French peoples sucks ! France is not a civilized nation anymore. France is becomming a barbarian nation !

It's my opinion and I don't mind if I'm banned because I wrote it !

" A bas la France et les francais " !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



posted on Mar, 9 2003 @ 08:29 AM
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Originally posted by Nans DESMICHELS

1) Enfin lý, je suis pas sure que tu puisses comprendre

2) Ha, Et pour les fautes d'Orthographes dÈsolÈ mais on est sur l'internet hein :

3) So, USA must leave UN, Muslims all are terrorists, Frenchs Germans and Europeans against the war (70% of europeans) stinks.

4) And you ARE NOT as stupid as rascist ?!

5) Ha, et quand on appartiens a un pays dont le president se fait a moitiÈ etrangler par un minuscule Bretzel heu...

6) La moindre critique (CRITICIZE ON US) contre votre land of freedom et vous vous mettez a HURLER a l'ANTI-AMERICANISM et au terrorisme. Remarquez que peut-etre qu' UP et PA ne spnt pas non plus les plus REPRESENTIVES des US CITIZEN !



1) Ne vous en faÓtes pas pas pour moi, car visiblement, je maitrise le franÁais bien mieux que vous.


2) Et alors ? Ce n'est pas une raison pour Ècrire n'importe comment !

3) 70% ? HA HA HA HA.....Nans, with you, one day it's 70%, the next it's 80 %.....And last but not least, it's not 70% of the EU citizens who are against the USA. It's 80% of the french and may be 33% of the german. We are very far from your so-called " 70% of the europeans citizens " !

4) Nope, I'm not.

5) I'm feeling so sad 4 u, Nans. I bet that your live is probably very hard, isn't it ?


6) Don't do any english/french mix, " no good for you "
Also, don't attack PA, you anti-US and racist frenchie !



posted on Mar, 9 2003 @ 08:37 AM
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"France sucks, French people suck." Do you need anymore proof that your are a bigot????



posted on Mar, 9 2003 @ 09:12 AM
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Paris is UNSAFE ?
LOnDoN is better ?!

www.ananova.com...

And its you prez niece who told that...



posted on Mar, 9 2003 @ 09:22 AM
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Originally posted by Abraham Virtue
"France sucks, French people suck." Do you need anymore proof that your are a bigot????


I can understand you AV, because you don't know what's going on with France now. France has changed, and not in a good way.

I had to write " France and frenchie of nowadays ".

I wonder where is the real France and the real frenchie. Those who fought and died for liberty and freedom.
Don't make a mistake, I'm really sad for france and her peoples. France is going straight to hell because she's guided by a corrupted minority and the majority don't want to see it, or fail to see it. Nans is a good example.

Also, why did you took a little part from my post, and not the rest ?



posted on Mar, 9 2003 @ 09:25 AM
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Originally posted by Nans DESMICHELS
Paris is UNSAFE ?
LOnDoN is better ?!

www.ananova.com...

And its you prez niece who told that...


C'est tout ce que vous Ítes capable de rÈpondre ? Vous Ítes R.I.D.I.C.U.L.E et n'avez aucunes capacitÈs de parades car ce que j'Ècris est correct.

Continuer a bien vous cacher la tÍte dans le sable, comme les autruches, de toute faÁon, ce n'est pas moi qui paierait vos erreurs.



posted on Mar, 9 2003 @ 09:40 AM
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Originally posted by ultra_phoenix
France is going straight to hell


You blind !
USA are still a hell, and we dont want france to become like that...
And I dont think that you are an intelligent person :
You tell me that PARIS is dirty and unsafe ?
Go in LONDON, Go in NEW-YORK, LOS-ANGELES...
You'll find that france is a good place to be.
The story you told upper... It's the same life in every metropolis worldwide...

Anyway, I got nothing to prove you.


[Edited on 9-3-2003 by Nans DESMICHELS]



posted on Mar, 9 2003 @ 09:52 AM
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Originally posted by Nans DESMICHELS

The story you told upper... It's the same life in every metropolis worldwide...



Leave your world and come to mine, you'll see that it's very different. Peoples cares of each others.




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