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ATS: Do you have a Novel Solution to the Gulf Oil Spill?

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posted on May, 3 2010 @ 12:41 PM
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Just occured to me,what if we used your cone idea,coupled with the massive weight that muzzleflash mentioned(ideally the cone WOULD BE the massive weight),pipe attached as you said-

Then,to actually attract the high pressure jet into the centre of your cone,you have at the end of your pipe,the mother of all vaccuum pumps.

This sucks the heck out of the water,while being lowered,until the upward pressure of the jet finds it naturally,it being the path of least resistance to the surface(coz its being sucked).

This might stabilize the cone enough for it to be attached securley to the base.
The giga pump/vaccuum jobbie would only have to last until the base is secured,then the oil will pump up to the suface,through the pipe and into tankers.


Could work,if the mother of all pumps has been designed,made,and fitted to a ship already,and is in the area.

If not,we are still talking months to create such a pump.

BTW(I know you prob don't need me to tell you this
,but don't try to connect a mains vaccuum cleanrer/pump to your "bucket" experiment.

Use a water pump maybe,pond style,good for underwater use.




posted on May, 3 2010 @ 12:48 PM
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Why can't I find a map with this things location??!???!

There is tectonic and vulcanic activity in the Gulf. Where the damn thing is exactly?



posted on May, 3 2010 @ 12:50 PM
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give all the oil tycoons and the speculators off wall street an boat and and
cleaning devices to clear up the mess thereself

they make big money of oil let them work for it !!!!!!!!!



posted on May, 3 2010 @ 12:52 PM
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Google Earth has failed yet again. The location may be one of those secrets that seem to abound nowdays.



posted on May, 3 2010 @ 12:58 PM
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Originally posted by Aeons
Why can't I find a map with this things location??!???!

There is tectonic and vulcanic activity in the Gulf. Where the damn thing is exactly?


I am not sure if this will help you narrow down the exact location,but WIKI calls the location:


Before the accident, Deepwater Horizon worked on BP's Mississippi Canyon Block 252, referred to as the Macondo prospect.


en.wikipedia.org...

From the same link:


n 2002, the rig was upgraded with "e-drill", a drill monitoring system where technicians based in Houston, Texas receive real-time drilling data from the rig and transmit maintenance and troubleshooting information.


Man,it must have been something for those guys to watch the catastrophe unfold in real time.I wonder if the last data could help to find a solution?



posted on May, 3 2010 @ 01:01 PM
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Originally posted by Silcone Synapse

Originally posted by Aeons
Why can't I find a map with this things location??!???!

There is tectonic and vulcanic activity in the Gulf. Where the damn thing is exactly?


I am not sure if this will help you narrow down the exact location,but WIKI calls the location:


Before the accident, Deepwater Horizon worked on BP's Mississippi Canyon Block 252, referred to as the Macondo prospect.


en.wikipedia.org...

From the same link:


n 2002, the rig was upgraded with "e-drill", a drill monitoring system where technicians based in Houston, Texas receive real-time drilling data from the rig and transmit maintenance and troubleshooting information.


Man,it must have been something for those guys to watch the catastrophe unfold in real time.I wonder if the last data could help to find a solution?


They keep that sort of information tight. Like seriously tight.



posted on May, 3 2010 @ 01:07 PM
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ok, it's my time to offer something truly impossible.

just close the door.

thick steel with a door like articulation, and a cone in the middle of the door, so it will go downward.
the pressure is high, so there won't be too much petroleum around the hole. you fix the articulation on the floor, link it with electrical motors (pulling strong cables) and close it. it may have the form of a cone, so it won't be pushed away.



posted on May, 3 2010 @ 01:11 PM
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yer a doll. That did help.

www.gomr.mms.gov...

The Missippi Canyon is on this map, and while I am not used to the mapping sections being used on this map my guess is that the location is fairly close to where the "Atwater Valley" label is.

Right hand side, bottom of the green sections.

[edit on 2010/5/3 by Aeons]



posted on May, 3 2010 @ 01:13 PM
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With good reason they keep the exact location hidden,not only in terms of competition,but they must worry about sabotage/terrorism as well.

It may be that in time this particular location becomes very well known,sadly for horrid reasons.
Lets hope they stem the leak soon,and the oil is somehow contained.
Maybe they are a. of us here,and have some great plan they are keeping quite about.
A longshot But heres hoping.



posted on May, 3 2010 @ 01:15 PM
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Once you blow up, your confidentiality shield should be lifted.



posted on May, 3 2010 @ 01:19 PM
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Hello.

Impervious Molten Injection system



This would be a two part system that interconnected to become the apparatus labeled above.

The first system is comprised of a barge that has on it a housing containing lead ingots and a smelting system to turn the lead into a molten slurry, that is then fed into a centrifuge that will move the molten material into an injection system... which will then cause the lead to flow into a connectable metalic pipeline that has at it's start a valve that will introduce a pnuematic line to increase the preassure of the molten slurry as it is introduced into the pipe system.

As the molten slurry flows down said interconnected pipeline, since it will be a subcutaneous system that will attempt to cool the product, each section of interconnectable pipeline will have to have built into it a heating system that will keep the lead molten on it's way down to the target - thus each section will have to not only be connected at it's flange but too, would have to have it's heating system connected electrically via plug cap.

The pipeline would be robotically controlled at the surface, where hydrolic armerature would be used to controle the location of the descending apparatus. A robotic submersible could be utilised to control the bottom half, aligning the pipe to the desired location.

Once the system starts pumping, the injection of the heavy element lead will first be inserted into the pipeline the oil flow is emenating from. once the lead is inserted it will immediately cool, so the pipline system will have to be inserted into the leaking pipe itself for several feet. This will effectively cap the flow and minimize the flow's intensity. - however it's apparent that the flow is quite forcefully pressurized itself, so an additional containment system will have to be utilised to seal the plug.

I guess it would be a plug and cap system.

The cap system could effectively be several large lead encased concreate blocks that could be lowered via cable boom to the desired location, and then set to supply support for the plug.

It would probably take a consierably large amount of lead to cap plug the leak - probably a couple hundred tons - so the heating system will have to be intrinsically mounted to prevent system failure.

Unfortunately, I really don't think that the oil industry ever thought about this scenario in thier safety features, which in my book shows not only a lack of ingenious thought but too a complicity to not care enough to hire someone - like an ATS Conspiracy buff lol - to research every possibility out there.

high insight is all fine and dandy, but now we have here a scenario that is just as bad as if SEVERAL nuclear detonations had gone off. This is going to effectively destroy the ecology systems that are locally regional and where ever the flow is whisked off to via ocean current, the oil is going to destroy everything in it's path there too.

This disaster will mirror every bit of destructive force naturally that the United States dealt to the Japanese cities of Nagasaki and Hiroshima in terms of the loss of marine life, indigenous coastal wildlife, and ultimately in some form, human life as well.

The implication that this exact scenario was ingeniously planned for by forces united in war against the United States, is implicated. If it is discovered that there was a direct link to any national entity that shows a complicity towards the sabotage of this oil platform, It is my belief, and whole hearted recommendation that a like response be sent forthwith via nuclear delivery system...

If this option is used, they better show real proof before launch or there's going to be hell to pay in America for thier continued treachery.

I really don't think that the American government is capable of this level of destruction against it's own people, and it's own shores, just to get the false flag initiated against targets of thier choice... but considering what we have in office at this time, somehow my gut is telling me that this scenario too, might very well be the case as it exists.

It's a sad time to be alive in today's world.



posted on May, 3 2010 @ 01:23 PM
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clearly ....I don't think we are able to stop it ...
its deep water with the storm season in front.....

if its tru the oil is coming out with high pressure the pipe wil be scraped to pieces in no time ..creating an funnel witch will go deeper and deeper in the sea bed...like an horizontal dam/dike burst..but than vertical
how much debris of the platform is couvering it up??
drilling an other hole next to it ...straight in the existing pipe itself seems nearly impossible .... missing it with one inch will give no succes....

the only savety device there was diddend work.... to much damaged...
there are not much options left...

personaly I think that the seabed structure is fractals,,,,couse of the meteorite that struckt the gulf M years ago.. you know that one wo exterminated the dino's... yes was miles away from the drilling hole
but still......

[edit on 3-5-2010 by ressiv]

[edit on 3-5-2010 by ressiv]



posted on May, 3 2010 @ 01:25 PM
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Originally posted by Aeons
reply to post by Silcone Synapse
 

www.gomr.mms.gov...

The Missippi Canyon is on this map, and while I am not used to the mapping sections being used on this map my guess is that the location is fairly close to where the "Atwater Valley" label is.

Right hand side, bottom of the green sections.

[edit on 2010/5/3 by Aeons]


That looks like the right spot.

Great find,that map.Really shows the scale of operations over there.
Its hard to even try to comprehend the amount of gear out there in the gulf.

And this is just one oil gusher.Damn scary if there was a proper earthquake in that zone.
Although,what has happened may turn out to be just as bad.



posted on May, 3 2010 @ 01:32 PM
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Allegedly, a gas pocket ignited and caused this mishap.


Is that what they're saying caused this accident? I hope they weren't referring to a gas pocket underground, because that is absolutely impossible.

you need three aspects for detonation to occur - fire, air, and fuel... AIR being the most relevant choice here....

I rather doubt that there is any air down there to allow ignition of any detonations... I thought that it was the pressure of the pocket alone that caused well built valves and satefy check systems to fail as the drill itself tapped into the pocket of oil... and subsiquently, once the flow shot skyward something lit it up... couldn't imagine what however, since it IS in the ocean, and crude oil is rather hard to ignite, especially at pressures they're talking about....

This WHOLE thing stinks of FALSE FLAG damnit!



posted on May, 3 2010 @ 01:36 PM
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well just to play along I'll say air drop millions and millions of kitchen sponges over the site....

Of course if you want to know what their really doing might want to go read this thread
www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on May, 3 2010 @ 01:37 PM
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I liked your slurry of molten lead vortex idea,But has that been invented/used yet?
Could it deal with the immense pressures invovled enough to still be effective?
Its a mile deep,and the oil is forcing its way out under massive pressure.

Anythings worth a crack at this point.
(Execpt nukes)IMO.



posted on May, 3 2010 @ 01:47 PM
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Someone posted it on another thread so it's not my idea but is logical and makes sense. Drill a side hole into the main hole to relieve pressure. Permanently cap the main hole then turn off the side hole. this is the standard method for this sort of thing I understand?

Only problem is it has never been done before with this kind of pressure so building all the valves and pipe for the side hole big enough to contain the huge pressure will be a new thing.



posted on May, 3 2010 @ 01:53 PM
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hey....... freece it up with CO2 !!!!!



posted on May, 3 2010 @ 01:57 PM
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Why plug the hole?

Why not just reconnect the system?

Is this not being done?

Or, in the great warped minds of the ATS membership, people have been talking about plugging it with rocks.

What about a couple of very small black holes? They are very heavy objects and placed strategically, they could suck up all the oil and then we could extract it at a later date!


Of course I have not considered the time/space rip this may create, so it could cause a retroactive repair if it causes a slowdown of the nth time constant!?


Sorry, in a weird mood today.



posted on May, 3 2010 @ 02:11 PM
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Originally posted by hawkiye
Someone posted it on another thread so it's not my idea but is logical and makes sense. Drill a side hole into the main hole to relieve pressure. Permanently cap the main hole then turn off the side hole. this is the standard method for this sort of thing I understand?

Only problem is it has never been done before with this kind of pressure so building all the valves and pipe for the side hole big enough to contain the huge pressure will be a new thing.


They are drilling a second hole. But it will take 2 to 3 months to drill it.




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