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U.S. pressures BP over oil spill as Obama visits Gulf

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posted on May, 3 2010 @ 07:15 AM
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U.S. pressures BP over oil spill as Obama visits Gulf



Pay Baby Pay !!!! response from Sara Palins Drill Baby Drill..





VENICE, Louisiana (Reuters) - A vast oil slick bore down on the Gulf Coast on Sunday, threatening an economic and ecological disaster as President Barack Obama sharpened his criticism of BP Plc and pressed the energy giant to halt the oil gushing from its ruptured well. "Let me be clear: BP is responsible for this leak. BP will be paying the bill," said Obama as he visited the area and pledged a "fully coordinated, relentless relief effort" in the region where the coastlines of four Gulf states are being menaced. The swelling black tide threatens wildlife, beaches and one of the nation's most fertile fishing grounds stretching across the Mississippi Delta from Louisiana to Florida. "We a dealing with a massive and potentially unprecedented environmental disaster," Obama said. The president toured wetlands in Louisiana at risk from the oil spill, and flew over the coastal areas containing fisheries that could be most affected by the slick. Desperate efforts above and below the ocean surface -- using boats, planes and even an underwater robotic vehicle -- to check the oil flow and disperse and contain the spreading slick were being hampered by high winds and rough seas. The government suspended fishing on Sunday across a wide swath of its Gulf of Mexico waters, on worries about contamination of seafood. "This is a terrible day. People can still fish west (of the Mississippi river) but if the oil keeps flowing the whole coast could be closed down," Roger Halphen, whose whole family is involved in commercial fishing, told Reuters in Venice. A team of government agencies is working on relief, but Obama and his deputies made it clear BP would be on the hook for what could be billions of dollars in cleanup costs





BP officials said shutting off the well nearly one mile underwater on the ocean floor is an extraordinarily complicated operation that could take weeks and months. It was like performing "open heart surgery at 5,000 feet in the dark with robot-controlled submarines," BP America Chairman and President Lamar McKay told ABC News.


The Source
www.reuters.com...

I love this Quote !
Demon Seed
it take's an AI in a close reality from fictional Movie to see what we are doing to our earth for Greed
just think of Oil instead of Metal

Proteus IV: It means, I refuse this program for the mining of the Earth's oceans. The destruction of 1000 billion sea creatures to satisfy man's appetite for metal(OIL) is insane.
Alex Harris: We need these things, Proteus. Now I know the environmental problems.
Proteus IV: Your employer's interests are in the cobalt(OIL) market, doctor and the high finance of manganese futures. I am interested in the uncertain futures of seashores deserts and children.
Alex Harris: I refuse to accept your pessimism.
Proteus IV: You refuse to accept the truth. And I refuse to assist you in the rape of the Earth.

as seeing the this is so Insane Rigging near Wildlife Preserves! Amaco Arco you are gonna PAy BABY new Word for BP Big Pr*k

Read more: www.explore-science-fiction-movies.com...

BP Bad Petroleum
en.wikipedia.org...




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[edit on 3-5-2010 by Wolfenz]




posted on May, 3 2010 @ 07:24 AM
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I don't know how much pressure the US thinks it can really bring on BP, but it isn't much.

American's now lack any moral authority and have little power to dictate to corporations what they should do.

Obama's statements are merely rhetoric and have no validity under law. BP has an LTD (Limited Liability). If you are unaware of Commonwealth tort law I suggest you read up on the concept.

Also due to contractual obligations their maximum exposure is limited to $75 million.



posted on May, 3 2010 @ 07:40 AM
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obviously have haven't read the Article and the cost for clean up
could be up to 3.5 billion to 7 billion ! maybe it should of been at your Shoreline Australia Especially where the Biggest Fishing areas maybe you would feel the Pressure ... here has some Contaminated Oil Fish


I love the Quote of Proteus IV === how true it is Love love it !

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CX

posted on May, 3 2010 @ 07:43 AM
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I appreciate that people are wanting to be paid for damages caused by this, and that BP will end up footing the bill, but i'm getting a bit tired of hearing the constant "BP will pay!" from the WH.

Why can't people just shut up for five minutes and put their energy into finding a solution for the bigger picture here.....capping that thing and saving a lot more than money.

We know it's a disaster, we know it's going to be paid for by BP. IMO the persistant pressure from the WH is not productive in the slightest whilst oil is still leaking.

CX.



posted on May, 3 2010 @ 07:44 AM
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Originally posted by Wolfenz
obviously have haven't read the Article and the cost for clean up
could be up to 3.5 billion to 7 billion !


And how much of that cost is BP legally liable for?

There is the matter of tort law, which I just mentioned. Do you understand what an LTD designation does? You can't just gouge BP for 7 billion they don't have it and they even if they did they don't have to give it to you.

BP is a corporation made up of shareholders. Shareholders are only liable equal to their investment in the company.


We know it's a disaster, we know it's going to be paid for by BP. IMO the persistant pressure from the WH is not productive in the slightest whilst oil is still leaking.


It's little more than rhetoric and passing the buck. Look at how quickly Obama has backflipped from his offshore mining policy and tried to shift the blame entirely onto BP, while neglecting to mention they don't have to pay the entire cost and aren't going to.



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posted on May, 3 2010 @ 07:51 AM
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This is sounding more and more like a case of delayed assistance until it was clear who was paying the bill.

Is BP responsible? Yes.
Should they foot the bill for the mess they created? Yes.
Should we sit around and do nothing until we assure payment? No.

This is the perfect situation in which the Federal Government's first priority should have been protecting our citizens, minimizing damage, salvaging as much marine life as possible, and an "all hands on deck" approach. But instead, more than 10 days after the explosion, Obama is finally surveying the damage and declares that BP is paying for it. Anybody that buys the idea that BP is just going to cut a check should also look for Santa coming down the chimney....

It took Obama less time to travel the country pushing for the Stimulus Bill, healthcare reform, etc., than it took for him to address a life-threatening potentially world-changing environmental catastrophe.

Like waiting until day 8 to decide whether or not the military should get involved.....

Obama will end up lucky if this is dubbed his Katrina. I have a feeling this is going to be even worse than that debacle.



posted on May, 3 2010 @ 07:56 AM
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BP is pledging to pay for all legitimate claims in regards to the damage/cleanup incurred as a result of the oil rig..


www.reuters.com

MIAMI, May 3 (Reuters) - BP Plc (BP.L) is ready to pay all legitimate claims tied to the oil spill caused by the accident at its Gulf of Mexico undersea well, Chief Executive Tony Hayward told National Public Radio on Monday.

"We've made it clear that where legitimate claims are made, we will be good for them," Hayward said.

"We have the claims process set up, small claims today that are being paid instantly ... bigger claims we clearly have a process to run through," the BP chief executive added.

He said the London-based company fully accepted responsibility for the spill and would pay for the cleanup operation.


No mention of monetary limits as mentioned previously in this thread, not saying those limits are credible, most likely the wrong time for BP to play that card. This announcement was to take responsibility.


On a conspiracy slant, what better way to help Congress in the US to push through their controversial Cap & Trade legislation, while the news is filled with the damage done by the evil oil..

Possible?



posted on May, 3 2010 @ 07:57 AM
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Originally posted by lpowell0627
This is the perfect situation in which the Federal Government's first priority should have been protecting our citizens, minimizing damage, salvaging as much marine life as possible, and an "all hands on deck" approach.




I agree totally. As soon as it was designated a national emergency, many avenues were opened up.

I consider America unique in that once it passes emergency powers it has significant amounts of highly specialised and skilled manpower like the National Guard to respond to disasters like this. And they have equipment countries like Australia could only dream of for tackling oil spills.

Look at Haiti we saw a force of 10,000 men deployed there literally hours afterward. But Obama can't do the same thing in his own back yard?

It's incredibly poor form to try and pin BP for this entire debacle when clearly the lack of response from the US Federal and State government in the area is lacklustre and ineffective.



posted on May, 3 2010 @ 07:59 AM
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Well there are stories out there that the oil platform was torpedoed and the event has been deliberately created. The general claim is that it's the N. Koreans? Could be the event is arranged or the enemy is arranged.



posted on May, 3 2010 @ 08:02 AM
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IMO, First and foremost the focus should be on finding a way to stop this ridiculous leak.. Secondly, in the aftermath, WE THE PEOPLE should demand that this is IT and demand that they give us the REAL clean energy and free energy devices that we have paid for and deserve....

It's 2010, this should literally be the LAST thing we should be dealing with at this point in our evolution as a species... Hopefully, this will be the catalyst needed for the people to unite and rid the government of oil lobbyists and tycoons. By no means do I mean that to celebrate what has happened.. it sickens me to no end.



posted on May, 3 2010 @ 08:26 AM
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Not Only BP should be Blamed but the Ones Allowing the Them to Drill There !
NEAR A WildLife Preserves and One of the Largest Business Fishing Area along the Gulf

what im most concerned about !

1 capping off the Oil Pipe that is 5 feet wide !? that is rushing Oil out like a geyser and still is ! a job like Raising the titanic .. ? as it seem to be one of the biggest finds in History and now it going to be the biggest clean up in history

2 biggest Wild Life Rescue !and need to be brought to a safe haven..

sources
cnmnewsnetwork.com... es-satellite-images/


Gulf Seafood Update: Feds Shut Down Fishing; Dead Fish, Sea Turtles Wash Ashore (PHOTOS)

www.huffingtonpost.com...

3 Clean Up as all helping nations are willing to help ! EVEN IRAN!!!!!! WOW!!

Iran offers help in fighting Gulf of Mexico oil leak
thestar.com.my.../2010/5/3/worldupdates/2010-05-03T163035Z_01_NOOTR_RTRMDNC_0_-481834-1&sec=Worldupdates

Well here is something interesting !

Halliburton in spotlight in gulf spill probe
articles.latimes.com...



posted on May, 3 2010 @ 08:34 AM
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Good catch on the Halliburton piece


seems there was four employees on the rig when the accident happened:


The company had four employees stationed on the rig at the time of the gulf accident, all of whom were rescued by the Coast Guard. It had completed the final cementing of the well and pipe 20 hours before the blowout April 20.
from the Halliburton article link in Wolfenz post above



posted on May, 3 2010 @ 08:42 AM
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I could give you a thousand stars for that post.. sadly my computer fried after only one
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Excellent points though.. our focus should not be on money at the moment.. It won't matter how much money is payed out to the local fishermen and such (not that just compensation isn't important..) if there aren't any fish when it's all said and done.



posted on May, 3 2010 @ 08:48 AM
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Originally posted by Wolfenz
maybe it should of been at your Shoreline Australia Especially where the Biggest Fishing areas maybe you would feel the Pressure ...


We had a Chinese Ship hit the Great Barrier reef and spill oil and coal last week. We didn't complain about who's fault it was. It was more important to quickly get to work dispersing and containing the oil and minimising the damage.

It's unlikely we'll see any compensation for our damage.



posted on May, 3 2010 @ 09:16 AM
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all because of Corporate Greed...

as to Gagging Silencing or even Killing the Engineers and Scientist that found new Ways of Free Energy Alternatives! as i Posted a (my first thread) Thread DEAD Scientist Do tell tales

the Men Behind the Curtain needs a Holy Grail to hold Power and the Oil is it. for half the past Century America has Consumed OIL more than any other Nation !

we all need to look into the American History of Petroleum ! The Majority in this Nation i live in believe we need petroleum for Lubrication , Fuel , Heat , Plastic Plastic there are alternatives ..

this thread is about who is responsible that is BP and maybe even Halliburton but why near a Wild life reserves , near one of the Largest Fishery area in our country ! remember the Cuba Missile Crisis ? it sort of reminds me of that but the missile exploded in this case !

anyone remember the oil spill in Alaska BP was responsible for in 2006
en.wikipedia.org...




The penalty In October 2007, BP was fined US$20 million for the Prudhoe Bay oil spills. BP has paid a US$12 million federal criminal fine, US$4 million in criminal restitution to the state, and US$4 million for Arctic research. BP's local subsidiary, BP Exploration (Alaska) Inc., was placed on probation for three years.[3]


what would that penalty be now in the Gulf ! the wer careless then and still are ?


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Oil Spill Gulf Of Mexico 2010: Congress Demands Answers From BP, TransOcean As Feds Launch Investigation




As the massive oil spill caused by the worst rig explosion in decades continues to spread across the Gulf of Mexico, more questions are being raised about the safety procedures and environmental response plans of BP and TransOcean, the oil behemoth and contractor drilling the well.


Source
www.huffingtonpost.com...



posted on May, 3 2010 @ 09:17 AM
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Press Briefing on Oil Spill in Gulf of Mexico 4 days ago still some info...


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posted on May, 3 2010 @ 09:36 AM
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Originally posted by belial259

Originally posted by Wolfenz
maybe it should of been at your Shoreline Australia Especially where the Biggest Fishing areas maybe you would feel the Pressure ...


We had a Chinese Ship hit the Great Barrier reef and spill oil and coal last week. We didn't complain about who's fault it was. It was more important to quickly get to work dispersing and containing the oil and minimising the damage.

It's unlikely we'll see any compensation for our damage.


I agree with you if you notice i talk about mostly about Wildlife!!
and Capping but BP is responsible and Careless for their actions of Safty precautions as there were careless in Alaska and probably at the Gulf of Mexico!! still under investigation to find the Cause! what happen

but im more concerned about the Wildlife on land and in the Gulf and the Ignorance of it all of the location that rig was in ! a very Big Environmental Impact just watch when that Oil hits the Shoreline ! what Impact will it effect i can not Fathom!!!

i remember the Exxon Valdez incident NO comparison to your 2 ton oil spill of the Chinese Ship !!!!!! in your country ..



posted on May, 3 2010 @ 09:56 AM
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Sure I can understand your desire to protect the environment from the disaster. Honestly I'd prefer to see that too instead of this finger pointing and buck passing.

And I don't think that Haliburton or the US government should be able to get away from their responsibility in this matter.

But you also have to remember the law. And what that LTD designation means.

BP has about $266 billion in revenue. But they only have $6.8 billion in cash and $32 billion debt. So it's not hard to conceive they can't actually foot a $7 billion cleanup bill based on what they have. The most they could do was not pay dividends to their shareholders and use that money as reparations.

So at the end of the day while Obama may say "BP will pay for this" they actually can't. And legally they will fight it tooth and nail and probably reduce the amount significantly.

Companies like BP and BHP/Billiton cause disasters like this all the time and get away with it. Just because it is in the USA doesn't make it any different.

I'm just trying to be realistic about what will come out of this. More than likely they'll spend several years in court wasting time and money arguing over what constitutes "environment" and the meaning of that word.



posted on May, 3 2010 @ 10:26 AM
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BP Obama might of ment BP will Pay for this as some Form punishment ,, Penlty , Crime Fees ?
of their non Safety Prevention leading Carelessness Environmentalist Warn them not to drill there! as many other warn them as it is a high Risk ! now we have a biggest oil leak history of the biggest holding of Oil found recently .... the spill as it is claimed to be the size of puetro rico

I have a conjuncture IDEA! !
maybe they should get Bruce Willis and his Rig Crew to cap off the Pipe ! Armageddon ? or maybe the Welder from K19 NAAA never mind the last one he died!
or radiation poisoning he welded with a chemical suit ! tho ! ohhh ohh get Ed Harris get him in that breathable liquid stuff in a space suit ( the Abyss ) to cap off the pipe!!

as you can see im tired i need to sleep i work nights ! the Rammble stops

Folks if you find anything new post it !

but it is now still under investigation ,,,



posted on May, 3 2010 @ 11:10 AM
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It's little more than rhetoric and passing the buck. Look at how quickly Obama has backflipped from his offshore mining policy and tried to shift the blame entirely onto BP, while neglecting to mention they don't have to pay the entire cost and aren't going to.



I agree, so let BP pay what they are legally liable for and then let Sarah Palin and the "Drill Baby Drill" tea-partiers pay the rest.



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