English Defence League take over mosque roof!

Originally posted by Bunken Drum
reply to post by purplemonkey

 

seriously the point is, UK needs to choose its immigrants wisely, instead of an open door policy.

You mean a points system like Australia? Oh, hang on... we've got one. Its also worth noting that immigration into the UK has been falling for 3 years. That doesn't work as a headline tho.

Bunken, you are aware of the phrase "shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted"? Immigration is falling, but is still much higher than in 1997.

Labour also ADMITTED last year (see a memo Jack Straw penned) they have practiced social engineering in order to garner a whole army of loyal Labour supporters, both through immigration and making people reliant on the State through benefits.

This is, for me at least, not about race or wanting to see England be white (whatever bollocks Parallax might say, he's as bigoted as anyone) but more about the strain the nation is under. House prices are though the roof, transport is creaking at the seams, schools are crowded and the NHS is overstretched. Do we really need more people in this country, regardless of their colour?

We need LESS not more! We can cover any workforce needs with EU migration, we don't need any from outside the EU. And someone really needs to count people in and out so we can have a net migration as low as possible.

At the moment, some Local authorities are under so much strain they were cutting services before the recession because they simply cannot afford to translate everything into 20 languages, or cater for the needs of pupils who don't speak English.

We can't bury our heads in the sand about this looming problem because some morons insist on us solving the worlds ills and call us who are being pragmatic, racists. I am anything but. I won't go into the cliche defence of "I have black friends", because quite frankly I have no need to defend myself.



[edit on 3/5/10 by stumason]

Originally posted by Sozen94
I said 300 years ago as that was around the time when the Empire was at its peak.

No it wasn't it was just starting the peak was the inter war years when we had our share of the Ottoman Empire added to our own.

Originally posted by ho chi minh
You can learn a lot from history..

Quite, like not repeating it perhaps? Or is it ok in this regard because we're getting "what we deserve" or that the White man is on the receiving end? I am no more responsible for what happened 2-300 years ago than a Japanese man is resposnible for what happened in China, or a German man is responsible for killing Jews.

And as for the "stealing wealth" melarchy, what crock. The African nations, if they could get their act together and stop behaving like tribalist savages would be the richest nations on the planet. They have unbelievable and untapped mineral wealth, but corruption and tribal conflict prevent their development. But of course, no doubt you'll blame the evil white man for that too...

Originally posted by Yissachar1
It was those same Hindus, Sikhs, carribeans, Africans who also voted against this mosque.. I suppose you will call them racist too...

Yup if they are, my gf's family are Hindu and can't stand Muslims and mostly have a very low opinion of blacks, racism isn't a white issue.

reply to post by Thepreye


Exactly. A few years ago there were race riots in Birmingham.

Guess what?

No white people involved!

It was Blacks + Sikhs versus Muslims, of all people!

Racism knows no boundaries and isn't an exclusive White thing, as some would have you believe and try to make you feel guilty for.

i]reply to post by Parallex


well you do like your nasty little labels don`t ya. you seem to think its ok to be Fascist as long as your on the left?. you think your a hero for any whos different? you say you want to FIGHT when all i want is a voice, your crazy. i bet you would run and cower at the first sign of violence most who act hard on a forum would and CHAV is a pathetic word it just means working class

the EDL and all the groups you put in your list are heros because thay are willing to put up with people like you, media bias, government bias,police bias and the UAF.just so i and anybody who really wants to be British can have a voice against a religion that does not even deny thay want to dominate the world. your a strange guy



[edit on 3/5/10 by Aceofclubs]

Islam and Muslims are here to stay .

Can't live with'em , can't live without'em .




% 5 of population are of immigrants .


With birth ratios of newcomers , the total number might increase to % 15 in 50 years or so .




Let's face it , Islam is the fastest growing religion .

Why ?

reply to post by Aceofclubs


That's the irony of the left wing militants. They profess to be against facism, but use facists tactics to shut down views they don't agree with and call everyone bigots, while acting like bigots themselves.

The EDL might have some goons in it's ranks, but I am damn sure the UAF and far-left have just as many. For crying out loud, even the mainstream parties have a good collection of right and left wing nutters.

Branding the English Democrats as fascists is just plain idiotic and shows he know nothing about them. I would love for him to point out what exactly about them is fascist. He sounds like a character off the Young One's, calling every one a fascist pig...

For too long alot of peoples views have been ignored. I am a member of the English Democrats because I believe in an equal deal for England within the Union and preservation of our society. I have no interest in "killing darkies", or closing the borders or any of that.

People like Paralax would happily sail all of that down the river just so they can pander to minority groups and get their own way, regardless of the consequences of their actions on society.

I think he needs to go and learn what a fascist is and then examine his own actions before throwing around labels. It's as bad as Israel using the "anti-semite" tag when anyone disagress with them.

reply to post by 23432


Because they have large families? They are certainly not converting people en mass that's for sure. It was covered on the Dispatches programme about the Islamic groups subverting the system, they aim to outbreed us, straight from the horses mouth of people like I4UK.

Also, note that Paralax and chums have no rebuttal for the fact that Muslim groups openly practice vote rigging and use the system agianst us.

It is no coincidence that the first prosecution for vote rigging in the Uk in decades (2007 I believe) was a bunch of Muslim clerics and "community leaders" in Birmingham. Soon followed after by another bunch in Slough.

Then there are the groups going round area's NOW, as attested in the BBC article I linked to earlier.

No rebuttal whatsoever, why?

reply to post by StarBoyFG

its not about GOD its a islamic political movement this high up MP lets it slip out what he wants. all our mps to be muslim go on watch the vid here it is
www.abovetopsecret.com...
if you have time maybe watch a few more in that thread. undercover in britan is good and real from a high profile program in the uk. look at both sides before you pick one is all i ask

Originally posted by Aceofclubs
reply to post by FalselyFlagged

 

do us all a favor and stick a sock in it
you trolls just never stop. i have not seen a thread your in where you dont call every one a racist when its clear your for islam NO MATTER WHAT. in fact scratch that keep it up show us how a good muslim conducts himself

Mate I'm white, blond and blue eyed born and bread pure English but I hate the edl for being the scum they are, I know them, live by them, speak to them I'm ashamed to say some of my thicker friends have been corrupted by edl propaganda.

If you know them you must know they ARE thick, racist, violent thugs out for a violent laugh under what they imagine is a decent cause, but they know not of what they speak, facts are few and a love of violence is high.

Originally posted by Thepreye

Originally posted by Aceofclubs
reply to post by FalselyFlagged

 

do us all a favor and stick a sock in it
you trolls just never stop. i have not seen a thread your in where you dont call every one a racist when its clear your for islam NO MATTER WHAT. in fact scratch that keep it up show us how a good muslim conducts himself

Mate I'm white, blond and blue eyed born and bread pure English but I hate the edl for being the scum they are, I know them, live by them, speak to them I'm ashamed to say some of my thicker friends have been corrupted by edl propaganda.

If you know them you must know they ARE thick, racist, violent thugs out for a violent laugh under what they imagine is a decent cause, but they know not of what they speak, facts are few and a love of violence is high.

every group has a few fools and yes some(few that i know) are just itching for a fight but i know alot of the older EDL members round here and there problem with islam is legit. thay outnumber the fools by alot and it not just the EDL that holds this view you think thay are all the same? what about the english democrats?

Over one third of babies born in the UK are Muslim.

The ones pouring into the country are mostly in their twenties and having eight babies each ....





[edit on 3-5-2010 by Trublue]

Originally posted by Aceofclubs

Originally posted by Thepreye

Originally posted by Aceofclubs
reply to post by FalselyFlagged

 

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Mate I'm white, blond and blue eyed born and bread pure English but I hate the edl for being the scum they are, I know them, live by them, speak to them I'm ashamed to say some of my thicker friends have been corrupted by edl propaganda.

If you know them you must know they ARE thick, racist, violent thugs out for a violent laugh under what they imagine is a decent cause, but they know not of what they speak, facts are few and a love of violence is high.

The problem with Islam isn't real, the edl and it's supporters are racist and ignorant, there is no Islamic invasion, the Muslims will never take over, the churches sell the land to Muslims to build a mosque, the UK is an atheist country.

I can see a time when these morons force folk like me onto the streets to fight them on their own level, shouldn't be hard they've never won a fight yet and are too thick to win a street war.

reply to post by Thepreye


The word "Islamic invasion" is probably an overstatement, yes, but there are efforts by sections of the Islamic community to subvert and cooerce British society and our democratic principles to further an agenda.

To pretend like everything is hunky-dory and isn't a problem is crass, ignorant and just sticking your head in the sand.

Did you see my posts earlier in the thread? Sections of the Islamic community openly practice vote rigging in elections in order to get their favoured candidates in, which more often than not are linked with I4UK and the like.

Again, no rebuttal of this. I find the silence on this very important facet of the discussion telling.

reply to post by Parallex

The Fascist EDL scum are at it again.

I hope the police arrest them all, and give them a good beating while they're at it. If the police don't, then I'm sure there are others who will. I think it's time some of us went and occupied the roof of a local church in protest at the disgusting propagation of Christian activity.

In fact, I might drive down there myself and open up a can of my favourite material.

Parallex.

lol you call them fascist scum but then condone violence against them to shut them up and then doing the exact same thing they are doing to a church.

I see why you call your self parallex.



[edit on 3-5-2010 by asd10]

Islam has been spread through violent Jihad for 1,400 years.

What we are seeing in Great Britain is simply one front on a global Jihad that has been ongoing for centuries. From India, to Thailand, to France, Spain, Russia, China, Lebanon, Egypt, Pakistan, India, America, even the Maldives, muslims wage jihad to spread Islam.

It is real. It is happening now. It has been happening for 1,400 years.

Please stop acting so surprised when a jihad attack occurs. It is nothing new. You must be pro-active. Stop the muslim invasion, close down the mosques, do not permit minarets, do not adopt any cultural symbols of Islam.

Do not allow this Super Mosque, a huge symbol of your submission to Islam and Allah, to be constructed. Take it down. Build a Christian church on it, and an orphanage, and a kitchen for the poor. A mosque is simply a bastion for an invading muslim army and not good for Great Britain.

I hope the police arrest them all, and give them a good beating while they're at it. If the police don't, then I'm sure there are others who will. I think it's time some of us went and occupied the roof of a local church in protest at the disgusting propagation of Christian activity.

Pretty funny. While muslims wage an endless, 1,400 year long jihad across the entire planet, you can cheer the assault of Great Britain by an invading muslim army.

The muslims were imported to Great Britain by the Socialists for their "multiculturalism" and "diversity" (code words for jihad). Islam is fascist not Great Britain.

reply to post by Bunken Drum


1.1 million illegals
7.3 million legals (oh you forgot about them didn't you!)
3.2 million offspring
(that the Natioanl Office of Statistics know about....)

set to rise to at least double that by 2025

add that together and work out the percentage in the Uk population that is a huge chunk