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Originally posted by merkava
Originally posted by Freeborn
reply to post by Thepreye
You seem to make it sound like the re-birth of hitler is inevitable.But the above sentence was my reply to your hitler post.
If they were hard working, there wouldn't be any need for hundreds and thousands of immigrants to do the dirty low paid jobs coming into UK every year.Now immigrants who are the 3rd generations are working their way up and taking the top jobs.Most of the MP's standing for the local elections in my area are indians and pakistanis.
Christianity will eventually cease to exist as it progresses towards secularism.Accepting paedophiles and gays just shows how fast christianity is progressing into the future.It has been corrupted for centuries according to the desires and whims of people following it.While Islam has remained the same as it was 1400 years ago.
I advise you to look at British way of life before WW2, than maybe you will realise what made Britain 'Great'.It use to be a nation that ruled the world without the need of immigrants, now without immigrants this country would collapse.
The immigrants you are talking about are the 2nd and 3rd generations here and understand the British way of life inside out i.e anjem choudary.The recent arrivals don't have time for those things because they are here to make BIG money.
My parents came here as economic migrants,i am the 2nd generation so for me this is my country and that does not mean i have to sacrifice my own culture and religion to intergrate into something that has got nothing positive to add to my life.I am studying and once i start working i will pay taxes as any other 'hard working' British person.
Originally posted by merkava
Originally posted by sotp
reply to post by Tiger5
EDL are not protesting against only 'radical islamists'.Their ultimate aim is to get rid of ALL muslims.over and out.
Originally posted by Yissachar1
reply to post by Parallex
There are park areas around here where whites cant go.. There are even signs saying so... All these things add up and the people have had enough... Black country folk are not politically correct and wont stand for it...
Where is your proof that EDL are crims??? Hope you got your proof handy dude..
[edit on 2-5-2010 by Yissachar1]
[edit on 2-5-2010 by Yissachar1]
Originally posted by dashar
what we are not allowed to build a church in muslim country , dam rite they dont allow it. you get thrown in jail for carrying a bible in some places .
...So let me get this straight, because another country may prevent the construction of the "wrong" place of worship or imprison someone for carrying the "wrong" religious book, you think that England should follow suit?
Is that really the type of country you want to live in?
..
[edit on 4-5-2010 by the_weirdness]
And you had a quote of mine about Hitler at the beginning of your response and the paragraph about Milosevic was at the end of your response.
You've lost quite a bit of credability straight away!
However, the vast majority of Brits are proud, hard working people who just want a fair days pay for a fair day's work.
We have factories that will only employ Polish speaking people.
But what is even more annoying are immigrants coming here and claiming benefits and making no attempt whatsover to work yet still milking the system and at times getting more assistance than genuine cases.
However, you refuse to comment on my point about Christianity progressing and Islam regressing and also you refuse to acknowledge that this country is essentially built on and governed by Christian values.
You have deliberately cherry picked your responses choosing to ignore some very important points that I made.
We had fought two World Wars and the people who were lucky enough to have returned from those wars had had enough of the old order.
They demanded a better deal.
My point is that so many immigrants, yourself included by the looks of things, come here and do nothing but whinge and moan and criticise this country.
If it is so crap how come so many people want to come here?
I would treat that country with respect and work hard to better myself and contribute to the new society that had given me the opportunity.
Originally posted by Horus12
reply to post by merkava
And when you replied to me, you conveniently skipped the part of my post referring to Muhammad marrying a 6 year old girl and having sex with her when she was 9.
Mary and Joseph
The most famous marriage in Christianity is no doubt that of Mary, Jesus’ mother, with Joseph. While the following details are not in the canonical Gospels in the Bible, it appears from other early Christian writings (known as apocryphal writings) that Mary was twelve years old when the temple elders decided to find a husband for her. They selected the husband by drawing lots, and Joseph whom they chose was an elderly man, being according to some accounts ninety years old. The husband was selected and Mary was handed over to him, and she played no part in his selection.
These accounts are summed up in the Catholic Encyclopedia, 1913 edition, which is available online, as follows:
“It will not be without interest to recall here, unreliable though they are, the lengthy stories concerning St. Joseph’s marriage contained in the apocryphal writings. When forty years of age, Joseph married a woman called Melcha or Escha by some, Salome by others; they lived forty-nine years together and had six children … A year after his wife’s death, as the priests announced through Judea that they wished to find in the tribe of Juda a respectable man to espouse Mary, then twelve to fourteen years of age, Joseph, who was at the time ninety years old, went up to Jerusalem among the candidates; a miracle manifested the choice God had made of Joseph …” [13] (Bolding is mine.)
Although these apocryphal accounts are not now accepted by many Christians, and the Catholic Encyclopedia says that they “are void of authority”, yet it also speaks of their influence as follows:
“they nevertheless acquired in the course of ages some popularity; in them some ecclesiastical writers sought the answer to the well-known difficulty arising from the mention in the Gospel of the Lord’s brothers; from them also popular credulity has, contrary to all probability, as well as to the tradition witnessed by old works of art, retained the belief that St. Joseph was an old man at the time of marriage with the Mother of God.”
However, these accounts are accepted by the Eastern churches. The website of the Ukrainian Orthodoxy has an article on this subject entitled An Elderly Joseph which agrees with the presentation in the apocryphal writings “of Joseph as an elderly man, a widower with adult children”. It concludes:
“The Christian East’s picture of Joseph as a courageous, faithful, God-centred elderly widower rings true.” [14]
We give below, as Appendix, a quotation from one of these apocryphal books, The Infancy Gospel of James, describing how Mary’s husband was selected.
While the Western Christian churches may not accept these accounts as authentic, the Eastern churches in Europe do accept that Mary was 12 years old and Joseph a widower 90 years old when they married. Moreover, there is nothing in the Gospels of the New Testament to contradict these accounts, and the Gospel stories are not at all inconsistent with these ages for Mary and Joseph.
There is also video evidence of muslim clerics in the UK openly saying it is ok to have relations with prepubescent girls because Muhammad said so.
Originally posted by TruthSeeker8300
reply to post by merkava
Mary was around 16. You're trying to defend someone banging a 9 year girl makes you an idiot. I've been on Islamic Yahoo groups where middle aged Muslim men say it's ok. Go do the research yourself fool.
Originally posted by merkava
reply to post by Freeborn
My bad, i assumed something else regarding your hitler post.
I have lost no credability.Everyone makes mistakes.
Still not working hard enough though.Read my post on P.17 regarding those nations that didn't want any immigrants in their country.Even though they are well off their people work 14 hours a day like machines to make ends meet.They can afford cheap immigrant labour but have decided to utilize their own workforce to their maximum ability.
Factories and businesses employ cheap hard working labour who don't moan and complain about longer sick leave, longer breaks, longer holidays, special treatment.
Those who are providing them with maximum benefits should be criticized.
Christianity is not progressing at all, it's just being manipulated to suit peoples desires.But if you call that progressing than that's a different case.And Islam is one of the fastest growing religion, something that regresses doesn't grow bigger.
I have answered most of your points, but if you feel that i missed some deliberately than let me know in your next post.
The 'better' deal hasn't exactly turned out to be better now has it?
I didn't come here, i was born here.And i don't moan and whinge, i have studied hard and will hopefully work hard and pay my taxes until i retire.What more contribution are you expecting?
Has it ever occured to you that majority of the immigrants didn't come to UK to intergrate and enjoy British weather? They are called 'economic migrants', meaning good £££££ money.If they were paid good in their own countries, they wouldn't even s*** on UK.
What do i have to do more to contribute more towards British society? Cut my head off and serve it on a plate for them? I live peacefully with all my white neighbours, I have never broken any law, i don't even have One point on my driving license.
Originally posted by Freeborn
Anyone who is using the Bible as evidence of a person's age really doesn't expect to be taken serious do they?
Methuselah, Noah and lots of others allegedly lived till they were about 1000years old.
The world is only so many thousand years old.
etc, etc.
Not a reliable source methinks.
[edit on 4/5/10 by Freeborn]
Originally posted by Yissachar1
reply to post by Raider of Truth
Why does everywhere I go to live look like Gaza? lol
Originally posted by AndyHodges210
I remember watching the video of a poor American called Nick Berg in 2004.
He had his hands tied, he was wearing an orange jump suit.
He had his head sawed off with what looked like a bread knife by masked, murduring cowards shouting..... allahu akbar. As his head was severed, they held it up to the camera. It was the most single sickening thing I ever saw, and I am an ex soldier of many years service.
The Murderers were Muslims. This is the true face of Islam.
God Bless the few English people with the insight and courage to see what is happening there.