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English Defence League take over mosque roof!

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posted on May, 3 2010 @ 08:15 AM
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It's unfortunate that the likes of the "English Defence League" - a preposterously self-important name for a set of hooligans - should be seen to be the primary public opposition to the growing influence of Islam.

As some more sensible contributors have pointed out, opposition to Islam is not racism - Islam is a religion, not an ethnic denomination. It's a religion, furthermore, that is highly politicised and shot through with totalitarian ideology: it is dogmatic, reflexively anti-democratic, culturally imperialist and aggressively intolerant. Far from being the preserve of fringe extremists, anti-semitism, misogyny and homphobia are fairly mainstream aspects of Islamic thought: I'm from a British town with one of the largest Muslim populations in the country, I've grown up with Muslim friends, and many of them are delightful in all kinds of respects: but their geopolitical views, especially their ideas about Jews, are positively Hitlerian.

Any friend of liberal democracy is right to be concerned about Islam - but please don't let that concern drive you towards thugs like the BNP and EDL. Read instead the exceptionally brave writings of Ayaan Hirsi Ali, the Dutch intellectual and Muslim apostate who is one of the most eloquent and informed critics of the repressive patriarchy in Muslim societies, and encourage mainstream politicians to have the back bone to defend our pluralistic, liberal society from those who despise it.




posted on May, 3 2010 @ 08:15 AM
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To all the contributors to this thread: thank you.


This is the funniest thread on ATS right now. You're all amazing.



posted on May, 3 2010 @ 08:15 AM
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The church was knocked over because it belonged to the anglican church. The Anglican church has been dying for decades. Falling church attendance is a complex issue. When Black people came over en mass in the 1950s and sixties they were made very unwelcome so went on to form their own churches. But there are a lot of rerasons for the church being knocked down the Moslems were not to blame for that.

Do also remember that it was the commonwealth that helped to keep this country free!



posted on May, 3 2010 @ 08:21 AM
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Wow

Actually how many xtian people folow the letter of the bible?? Not all moslems follow the letter of the Koran. Perhaps all xtians should read their bibles and repent of their sinfulways. Do start with Leviticus



posted on May, 3 2010 @ 08:22 AM
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In the strictest sense you are correct, but most people when talking about the Nazis think of post Mein Kampf post beer hall era when they were either a huge well funded right wing party and social movement or an extremely right wing government expanding their borders through force. Not a bunch of blokes drinking beer and thinking Utopian thoughts of righting the world, full of good intentions.



posted on May, 3 2010 @ 08:23 AM
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Yes that is a fact but most black people are not criminals. So what is your point. Perhaps we should ban MEN too as more men commit crimes than women. Your statistics are irrlevent to the issue of the OP



posted on May, 3 2010 @ 08:28 AM
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Well actually a super church has just been built down the road. It is a plymouth Brethren church. I dislike fundamentalists and am a pagan so perhaps I should go down and make a fuss!!

Err No I will not because I am a tolerant individual and say "live and let live".



posted on May, 3 2010 @ 08:31 AM
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Damn right. Dude ya rock.. But sadly some people do not know much about politics outside of the national Enquirer!



posted on May, 3 2010 @ 08:34 AM
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Originally posted by MacDonagh
To all the contributors to this thread: thank you.


This is the funniest thread on ATS right now. You're all amazing.


That's the English for ya, always good for a laugh , a little piece of a small group of islands off the coast of Northern Europe populated by funny weirdos, just think Monty Python., not at all like our dour Northern brethren/victims however you see it.



posted on May, 3 2010 @ 08:35 AM
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I am going to get flamed for this but meh,could have been worse eh?


I am not taking any sides,however.Religion is a disease that should be abolished .So hear me out.


The British empire have been invading countries for god knows how long and implanting their branch of stupidity as well.Sure it has done some good ,I suppose but people honestly get sick of pompous white people thinking they know better in running a foreign country.

Funny how,the British government now,can hardly really give a hoot about the whole "immigration problem" just like in Australia.White people,not giving a damn about their own pride and culture anymore,while you see Muslims,Arabs etc willing to die for their own.

I am not saying either one is good or bad ,it is just a really hilarious observation on how things are changing.


Honestly,i can understand the whole sentiment with the Non-Islam vs Islam thingy.I really do think it is happening but protesting over a mosque and making up hate rallies is not going to change ANYTHING.It is an utter waste of time.If there is indeed some sort of "invasion" then more drastic measures should be taken ,no?



posted on May, 3 2010 @ 08:36 AM
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I am in awe - someone that has actually read about Marxism, and understand the 'thesis' vs 'antithesis' argument. I congratulate you on being smarter than the dumb racists on here.

Parallex.


how can the mods let this pass?

Just a pure troll comment, saying anyone who doesn't agree with him is 'dumb' and 'racist'.

Dont feed the liberal troll who doesn't want to debate.

In his mind you either agree with him or he will insult you.

My word to you parallex is :
either have an intelligent debate where you defend your views without insulting others, or keep them to yourself.



posted on May, 3 2010 @ 08:40 AM
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Funny you sound just like a Old school NFer. You do not sound like a BNP member as they all have (Asian wives they told me). What about those moslems born over here under UK law?

Perhaps you have trains for them to travel to work camps for. They must be deloused first!

Well After you get rid of the pesky moslems you may then choose to go after the darkies and then my friend we will clash and things will get fuggly for all racists.


You sir, are a classic racist. I support your democratic right to free speech but there you go. You have shown your true mentality the Islamic arguements are just a fig leaf for your racism and xenophobia.




[edit on 3-5-2010 by Tiger5]



posted on May, 3 2010 @ 08:41 AM
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Originally posted by Tiger5
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Well actually a super church has just been built down the road. It is a plymouth Brethren church. I dislike fundamentalists and am a pagan so perhaps I should go down and make a fuss!!

Err No I will not because I am a tolerant individual and say "live and let live".


Go down there and crimp one off on the doorstep of their church...

The Brethren are pure evil....The amount of influence they have in Australian politics you wouldn't believe...



posted on May, 3 2010 @ 08:42 AM
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Don't get me wrong if I thought for a moment the two odd million Muslims were going to Islamacise the UK or stage an uprising killing white folk I'd join the best movement set to stop them, there's just no sign of this happening and all the commotion is laughable and vaguely disturbing.



posted on May, 3 2010 @ 08:42 AM
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I IZ PART OF THE DOUR LOT!!! ¬_¬

The tension in the air is palpable isn't it? I wonder if this thread will develop into something "hilarious"?



posted on May, 3 2010 @ 08:51 AM
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You will notice my friend that I have never stated that I was a Christian, I am an avowed Agnostic and of course not all Christians follow the teachings of The Bible of whatever interpreation or denomination thet allegedly adhere to.

And of course the same could be said of Islam and Muslims.
And of course Muslims aren't as united as they would have us believe.
There a several denominations and interpretations.
But the particular brand of Islam that is spreading rapidly is extremist in it's interpretation.
These extemists are gaining more and more influence and control within the Muslim communities which refuse to integrate with other sections of British society.

These extremists preach hatred for ALL non-Muslims,regardless of race, we are all Kaffirs in their eyes!

And it is their duty to strive for the imposition of Allahs word, dictated to Mohammed and wrote down as The Koran and then formulated into Sharia Law.

If a Muslim is working towards the imposition of Sharia or is involved in Jihad then it is another Muslims duty to aid or not hinder him in his duty.
Thus 'ordinary' Muslims turn a blind eye to the activities of these extremists.

Yes there is a little resistance to these people, and I respect the Muslims who openly defy them, but they are a very, very small minority.
The only other opposition is empty rhetoric.

The Muslim communities have got to start accepting responsibility themselves for the actions of other Muslims and have to start dealing with the wolves in their own communities.

If these extremists get their way they won't be bothered whether the church is Black Baptist, Church Of England, Roman Catholic or whatever, they'll just burn the lot of them down.



posted on May, 3 2010 @ 08:51 AM
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Originally posted by MacDonagh
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I IZ PART OF THE DOUR LOT!!! ¬_¬

The tension in the air is palpable isn't it?


Yeah loads of white heroes ready to defend their race en masse as long as they're not expected to fight a couple of hundred hard black guys, see most of their rallies, a few Mosque devotees on the other hand and they'll be there fighting.



[edit on 3-5-2010 by Thepreye]



posted on May, 3 2010 @ 08:58 AM
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You cant get by the demo at the mo, the police are section 27'ing everyone who tries to get through... It was a bit crazy last night... There are still a bunch of muslims running around having a go at people seemingly without restraint so anyone popping up needs to be carefull...

It looks like there will be a big demo tomorrow..... This is going to get worse before it gets better and there are unconfirmed reports that the builders of the Mosque are backing down and are just going to do up their old one... Who knows????



posted on May, 3 2010 @ 09:08 AM
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I've just had my Express and Star through the door it says the Mosque has been scrapped by Dudley's Muslims instead they will redevelop the existing Mosque in Castle hill.



posted on May, 3 2010 @ 09:14 AM
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Hitler was tea-total so I very much doubt that he spent much time drinking beer in beer kellars etc.

I merely pointed out that strictly speaking there was left-wing tendencies within the Nazi party, the mere use of the word 'Socialist' is a it of a give away!

The 13th Waffen Mountain Division of the SS Handschar (1st Croatian) which was comprised of Muslims from Bosnia, Croatian and later on Albania was creted in early 1942 and served in the Yugoslavian campaign until it's gradual disintegration from late 1944 onwards.




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