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Possible Oklahoma Abortion Laws

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posted on May, 1 2010 @ 01:39 PM
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Originally posted by thepathoverseer
WTF... so are they saying they rather have children in the orphanage and complain about nation debts.

It is our body, it is our right what kinda say do you have to say in that.

So are you saying it is another form of way taking human right away for the NWO!?!?!


Actually, for the next 9 months it's someone else's body too. The infant relies on your body to live just as much as you do.


Originally posted by thepathoverseer

It is our body, it is our right what kinda say do you have to say in that.


So, by this logic, I should be allowed to use coc aine until it kills me, mutilate my body, or commit suicide without intervention from others. Caring about other people (to include potential people) is one of the things that makes us human and unique.




posted on May, 1 2010 @ 01:43 PM
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Originally posted by PaRaD0X

Originally posted by thepathoverseer


So, by this logic, I should be allowed to use coc aine until it kills me, mutilate my body, or commit suicide without intervention from others.


Um actually yeah, you should.

But I forgot, self-responsibility is only allowed when the thing someone is doing is supported by another.



posted on May, 1 2010 @ 01:46 PM
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When I was living in the United States I was a member of Voices For Planned Parenthood, I know I'm going to catch hell for this and get called a heartless monster, but I do honestly believe that life begins at birth, period. I also try not to get into the issue of abortion with Americans any more, it's too heated a debate and religion plays far too large a part in the minds of most people regarding it.

However, my wife, being an American, and highly pro-choice had an interesting view on this once that really stuck with me: "If a woman could impose a thing like forcing the carrying of a child upon a man, it would not only be made illegal instantly but the woman would be thrown in jail for the rest of her life."

I completely agree, in my view, most anti-abortion legislation (including this) is just another way for conservative males to control the female body.



posted on May, 1 2010 @ 01:48 PM
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Originally posted by ProjectJimmy

When I was living in the United States I was a member of Voices For Planned Parenthood, I know I'm going to catch hell for this and get called a heartless monster, but I do honestly believe that life begins at birth, period.


So, in your opinion, what is the difference, physically, between a newborn infant that has just emerged from its mother's womb, and an infant that has just began the process of moving through the uterus? Location? Is life determined by location?

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posted on May, 1 2010 @ 01:58 PM
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JImmy, with all due respect, but you ARE the problem and people like you and your wife.

She generalizes men and makes us look bad for what, to prove her point of view?



BULLSH!T


ONCE I CAN INGEST WHAT I WANT, YOU CAN VACCUM LIFE OUT OF YOUR VAG




If you disagree youre probably a racist.

(jk about the last part.)



posted on May, 1 2010 @ 02:00 PM
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Originally posted by PaRaD0X

Originally posted by ProjectJimmy

When I was living in the United States I was a member of Voices For Planned Parenthood, I know I'm going to catch hell for this and get called a heartless monster, but I do honestly believe that life begins at birth, period.


So, in your opinion, what is the difference, physically, between a newborn infant that has just emerged from its mother's womb, and an infant that has just began the process of moving through the uterus? Location? Is life determined by location?

[edit on 1-5-2010 by PaRaD0X]


Independent breathing for one haha. That is a part of it though, one is independent of the mother's body, the other is still in a parasitic (not symbiotic) relationship within the body of the mother.

That's a massive distinction in my mind.



posted on May, 1 2010 @ 02:05 PM
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And you trivialize life so, in a way that honestly disgusts me.



posted on May, 1 2010 @ 02:11 PM
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Originally posted by ProjectJimmy

Independent breathing for one haha. That is a part of it though, one is independent of the mother's body, the other is still in a parasitic (not symbiotic) relationship within the body of the mother.

That's a massive distinction in my mind.


So I guess anyone who uses an iron lung is actually dead. Everyone is entitled to their opinions, but I must say your emotionless view on life is rather depressing.



posted on May, 1 2010 @ 02:16 PM
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Originally posted by Goethe
And you trivialize life so, in a way that honestly disgusts me.




Not at all in fact, the previous poster asked me a question of a definitional nature and I answered using biological rationalism. I am not saying that babies are "parasites" like a tapeworm or something, just that the actual biological definition for a single-benefiting dependency is parasitic. I make no value judgment there at all, simply an observational one.



posted on May, 1 2010 @ 02:25 PM
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Originally posted by PaRaD0X

Originally posted by ProjectJimmy

Independent breathing for one haha. That is a part of it though, one is independent of the mother's body, the other is still in a parasitic (not symbiotic) relationship within the body of the mother.

That's a massive distinction in my mind.


So I guess anyone who uses an iron lung is actually dead. Everyone is entitled to their opinions, but I must say your emotionless view on life is rather depressing.


My views on the medical aspects of such things are quite emotionless, I would not deny that at all, but I have put quite a bit of thought into them, and been faced with situations involving people very close to me where I had them put to the test. In the end, yes my decisions were quite sterile and unemotional.

It's not at all easy to make such decisions, but I do not regret them. I can see how they might seem rather depressing and detached to others though.



posted on May, 1 2010 @ 04:22 PM
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so i guess nobody is going to touch on my double murder argument.

thats ok, i wouldn't want to either. its a rather definitive one. i love reverse case law



posted on May, 1 2010 @ 06:53 PM
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Lurkerman:

I don't even know where to start. I guess
I'll start with the only coherent thing you
asked.

As far as a fetus being killed and the person
who did it being charged with "double homicide"
not all states consider a fetus as a life. I
personally believe late term abortions are
questionable.

As to the rest of your rant. By your ownwords
you are dictating a women's sexual rights.
The "morning after" pill is just that. It's not
called the morning before pill.

And yes I have sex for fun. I don't want kids
so I wear a condom. Anyone who has sex just
for procreation only has some serious issues.

I guess you were attempting to label me as an
animal, because that is the only reason I can
see for calling me a giraffe.

I usually try not to generalize, but with
the comments you and others made calling
women bitches lumping them in as whores, I
will just lump you in with the Taliban.

Until it becomes illegal, mind your own affairs.



posted on May, 2 2010 @ 12:13 AM
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6 paragraphs and all you could come up with is "its legal in some states"?








wow.


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