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Originally posted by OzWeatherman
reply to post by Awolscout
I got a little carried away there, but in general I dont attack people for pushing their religion on me. I will however point out their flaws if they tell me Im wrong or Im going to hell etc etc.
You also have to see it from our point of view. We dont want to hear about your religion or god, we have already made a choice of not believing. Fine to proclaim that you believe in something, but you dont need to preach it to us
Good luck with becoming a minister
For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— not by works, so that no one can boast. For we are God's workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do. - Ephesians 2:8-10
Originally posted by AlreadyGone
I have read this so many times here...As a Christian, I am a slave...I am being controlled or manipulated...How? I live like I want. I have the lifestyle I want. I do the things that I want. I have a good life, I am married, I have a job, have 4 happy, successful children....they are Christians and doing well with jobs, traveling, college.
We help people...people in our church, community, and complete strangers. We have provided money, food, meals, blankets, helped pay bills, have traveled to Honduras to build a house and teach them how to grow food, my wife istraining as an EMT for medical emergencies on a national level as a volunteer.
Our church...this monster you refer to has/is/will be raising moneys and donations for tornado victims here in NC...for Katrina victims in Mississippi... sponsered the trip to Honduras...helped send over 20,000 buckets of food to Haiti... sponsered and supported healthcare workers going to Iraq... they were subsequently killed while trying to help homeless children there. We give to the local shelters, help with Food Bank of NC, helped a Women's Shelter and halfway House.
Tell me, as a non-believer...How are you freer than me? What greater deeds are you doing for your fellow man? What joys in life do you possess that I, as a Christian, lack?
I read many books, am open to may ideas and beliefs, ...wouldn't be here if I didn't..lol, I have friends both white-black-asian-hispanic-lesbian-gay-church goers-nonbelievers..we have fun, eat, have a few beers, cookout, go crabbin'...I mean really...What am I as a Christian missing?
Please be specific...No blind obedience to the corrupting influences of the church rant... Tell me, oh great non-believer, How is my life not as free as yours?
Originally posted by ShadowAngel85
Originally posted by andy1033
Religion is important for society and if you think otherwise, i think you have not thought this out too well.
Why is religion important? I really wanna know, because as far as i'm concerned, religion so something that belongs into medival times and not a modern world with modern thinking people. Religion holds the world back, religion is the cause for some of the biggest problems in the world right now.
Without all that crap, the world would certainly be a better place. No priests who rape little children, no muslims who cry war against infidels, no christians who make war "in the name of god" and other stupid bull#.