What if the USA had allied with Germany

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Just to provoke thought guys. What would be different now in all aspects of life. If we had allied with Nazi Germany but held on to our form of Government.

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oh yeah, We did!

[edit on 30-4-2010 by theinfernal]

reply to post by Loken68

I suppose you mean: "What if the US had supported the Nazis"?
I think the term "Germany" is a misnomer here.
Hitler was Austrian, and even geographically Nazi Germany is not modern Germany.
A good question, but ultimately Statlin killed 20 million, and I think it's good that the US recognized that as a bigger problem.

Yeah I meant the Nazi's But Hitler was the leader so yeah. Can anyone see any major difference's that may have came about other than complete nazi control of Europe? Sure England would probably never entered the war but what else?

Well, Russia gave 10 million troops to the cause, more than all of the other allies combined, so if russia joined germany, we'd all be speaking russian, or german, if your grandparents didnt get sent to 'detention'.

If Usa joined Germany, they probably would of invaded canada, the major supplier overseas, causing a lack of supplies in europe, and hence a loss of war.

Turns out Russia gave more troops than everyone else combined, regardless of what side they are on.

[edit on 30-4-2010 by Senz20]

Originally posted by theinfernal
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oh yeah, We did!

[edit on 30-4-2010 by theinfernal]

It's not working.

[edit on 30-4-2010 by Phlynx]

Would have never happened, feel of freedom flies in this great United States!!!

I stopped asking "what if?" in the 5th grade when my teacher made sort of fun of me for asking what if, so I never did again.

Never stop asking what if, my biggest mistake was listening to him.

Originally posted by halfoldman
reply to post by Loken68

 

A good question, but ultimately Statlin killed 20 million, and I think it's good that the US recognized that as a bigger problem.

Shame Roosevelt didn't see it. He thought Stalin was a great guy to be trusted and that Churchill was an evil empire builder. History overestimates Roosevelt.

reply to post by Loken68

What if the USA had allied with Germany

* Hello Kitty would probably not exist
* Polsa Kilbasa would not be avaiable in every grocery store
* There would be fewer japanese officer's swords floating around at US gunshows
* The cold war would never have happened
* The movies 'The Hunt for Red October' and 'Das Boot' would never have been made.
* Castle Wolfenstein would have had a very different plot
* 卐.com would not be as funny
* We wouldn't have to hear people whine about anti-semitism all the time

major difference's

Oh.

I suppose the biggest would probably be that japan would probably control a lot of asia, and china would not be on its way to becoming a world superpower right now.

I think we did, and this IS what it looks like

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Some people would be happy I suspect

A good deal of the uSA did side with Germany, such as the Bush family, IBM, etc.. Germans infiltrated much of uSA industry and secrets where regularly available to Germany. Hitler was trained in England and was a managed asset via travistock. Germany did it's think to slaughter Europe and rural Russia while cultivating technology and skills later imported the uSA. By the way, the Germans burned to death over 600 Russian villages full of humans no unlike the later slaughter by Pole Pot of the rural Cambodians. This facilitated brainwashing of the next generation. Sounds a bit like Iraq, actually.

Actually I saw a article that blames the Federal Reserve system provoking Germany to war.

Thiers no way we would have, our constitution would never have allowed it to happen and if governemnt did, regardless, im sure that great american spirit of freedom in the people, militias would have formed, once again to overthrow an evil governemnt and give back to the people

But for fantasys sake...wede be training and fighting alongside the germans, Europe would have been crushed. In short time, hitler would have sent SS officers here to mainland USA, to start setting up secret camps for american jew, disabled, and unfavored aryan race for disposal. Genocide*

Without the need to fight on two fronts, the Nazi's would have had far more resources to counter the Russian advance. In this scenario, I can see the American forces invading Ireland and Great Britain. In terms of spoils I could see Great Britain ending up a US state.

With the British manufacturing base under the control of the Nazi US and the influx of American GI's, the Russians would have a tough time getting to Berlin.

I think we did. It was just that most Americans didnt get the memo.

We were where they came after the war to continue their crap quietly.

George S Patton had a secret mission at a Baltic Sea Nazi weapons
development base.
Who knows how many weapons were under development.
We only saw the jets and rockets.

We do know that the Nazi development were transferred.
If we assume the chiefs of development were also brought
into the USA then the big shots won while the rest of Germany
was ripped off.

ED: And who told Patton where to go...


[edit on 5/5/2010 by TeslaandLyne]

Had FDR not been a puppet of Zionist interests, and had the USA been allied with NSDAP Germany, Operation Barbarossa with US participation would have prevented the 40-something year Cold War that followed, and we would have smashed communism.

Our subsequent "Containment of Communism" doctrine led us into the Korean War, the Vietnam conflict and resulted also in the Bay of Pigs and Cuban Missile Crisis.

"No", to answer your question, I'm not a "White Supremacist"; I don't "hate all non-Whites and want to 'rebuild' the 'gas chambers'." But given my equal disdain for Communism and Capitalism, I'm left with the only logical option: National Socialism and racial preservation.

Had the whole of Europe enjoyed a National Socialist revolution, it is my humble opinion that there would not be so many conflicts resulting from misguided multicultural integration, such as The European Union's fight against Sharia Law, with special attention to France's recently-passed legislation banning the Islamic women's headdress, the burqua.

As for the US, greed and consumerism run rampant. Be it the "wealthy 1%" on their yachts and exclusive golf courses, or coc aine-dealing pimps in their Cadillac Escalades, Capitalists with their short-sighted, "I got mine" mentality have sharply divided this country along racial and economic lines

And don't get me started on Democracy.

Democracy works great "on paper", the problem is, the majority of Americans are subhuman and too stupid to have a voice in public policy. A system of Generational Welfare has created a lack of incentive for industriousness and instead rewards indolence while punishing initiative.

An entire generation of drop-outs is contented to sit at home watching bottom-feeder television programing which caters to the lowest common denominator of society. Note the amount of Personal Injury Attorneys advertising "money for nothing" during Jerry Springer and Maury Powitzch while local pawn shops invite you to sell family heirlooms vaguely defined as "broken or unwanted gold".

Counter to these "Cash for Gold" solicitations during sensationalist programming like Springer and People's Court are the Monex Gold Diversification/Investment ads.

Where do you think that "broken and unwanted gold jewelery" is going?!

In our consumerist greed, we're unable to be satisfied with the latest technology for more than 3 months because 90 days is about the lifespan of the "newest" carrot-on-a-stick. We have to have the latest iGadget and as long as we can stuff our face with 10x the recommended caloric intake of transfat and chocolate goo while the latest episode of How I Met Your Mother streams into our iPhones, it doesn't even occur to us that we can't find Uzbekistan on a globe.

But we sure showed those Germans, didn't we?

14/88!

i was under the impression that the USA was allied with Germany until they betrayed us and formed a new alliance.

i suppose hindsight really is 20/20.

If this had of happened, we would have had German scientists running the rocket program at NASA, German scientists running military research programs to expand on ideas that German scientists had like Stealth technology and jet engines, and would be using German medical research in major medical research like brain surgery.

So in other words, they already did work with Nazis and keep the US form of Government.