reply to post by chise61
If by chance you respond to me, when I don't respond
it is simply that I am done
I can understand that. I was done with thread too, until I started receiving U2U's about it.
Look...if you're still reading, I ask for you to humor me for a moment. It's possible I might be "sick and twisted" or it's possible I might have
a useful idea that I'm simply failing to properly convey.
But please try to work with me to understand the idea first. if you don't like it, so be it. But at least understand it before you decide whether to
reject or accept it.
you forgot the word BLAME in your definition.
No. I didn't include it because it had nothing to what was I trying to say. I'm not placing blame at all. If you belive that, then I've failed to
commuicate an idea, and for that I apologize.
The rapist is always responsible for HIS OWN ACTIONS
You're right. I agree with you. A rapist is always responsible for his actions.
the victim is not responsible for being raped.
...well, sort of...but only because that's what being a victim
is all about: not accepting responsibility. If they were responsible, they
wouldn't be a victim.
A human being
is, as you say..."always responsible for their actions." If a man rapes a woman, he is responsible for his actions. If a woman
is raped by a man, she is responsible for her actions. They're both responsible for their actions
. The rape is a result of both
If you believe a rapist is in control, he will be. If you believe that you
are in control, you will be
. If you refuse to participate in
responsibility, and leave it solely to a rapist...what do you expect will happen?
I think we need to clarify what is meant by "responsibility" here. You seem to be associating it to "blame" and that's not the whole picture.
Let's use an example: let's say your friend asks you to watch her child, and you agree to be responsible for him.
What does that have to do with blame? Nothing.
By agreeing to "be responsible" you are agreeing to be in charge. If the child asks if he can play in traffic, you can tell him no. You decide, not
That is what we mean when we say women need to be responsible for themselves
. They need to take charge and decide what's going to happen to
their body, and make sure that it goes the way they want. If a child runs off into traffic and you're responsible for him, you'll run after him and
stop him...not sit there complaining about being a victim.
If you say that a rapist is "responsible" for raping a woman, you are saying that he gets to decide
. Is that what you want? Do you really
want a rapist to be the one deciding what happens to your body?
Rapists being responsible for rape is exactly the problem
and exactly what needs to stop
. Women need to be responsible for themselves.
That doesn't mean allow themeslves to be raped and feel bad. It means not letting it happen just like you wouldn't let a child run into
[edit on 6-5-2010 by LordBucket]