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how do you control your dreams?

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posted on Apr, 30 2010 @ 02:35 PM
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hey ats i have a problem
I cant remember my dreams!
and when i do their nonesenscical and i have no control over them
can you give me any tips?

[edit on 30-4-2010 by ashanu90]




posted on Apr, 30 2010 @ 02:55 PM
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Write 'em down. There's a lot of talk about "dreams" somehow being more than they are. But they're not really. Just write 'em all down, even if they're nonsensical. Then you'll start remembering them better. Once this happens, you'll start to have more vivid and less nonsensical dreams. If you're really lucky, after doing this for a while you might have "waking moments" in a dream where you realize it's a dream. Usually this causes you to immediately wake up.

If by some weird neurological condition you don't wake up right away, you might develop that mystical ability to lucidly dream (I say mystical, but I can do it, so it is possible). Once you have that, feel free to change little things in a dream to suit your liking. You tend to wake up after the first change though.

~ Wandering Scribe



posted on Apr, 30 2010 @ 04:47 PM
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Hello Ashanu,

For the most part, Wandering Scribe is correct. Keep a notepad and pen nearby your bed, when you wake from a dream, write down all the details you possibly can. The right path to remembering dreams without doing this as much is rigging your alarm clock or something to wake you up every 2-3 hours, this will make you more likely to remember more than one dream. Eventually, you should be able to remember several dreams or even very long dreams through the night.

Lucid dreaming is not a luck thing, it is a skill. What you have to do is the following:
- First you'll want to be able to really remember your dreams, you wouldn't want to have a lucid dream you don't remember.
-Second, you'll want, during the day time, to keep looking at the clock. Why this is, is because in a dream if you were to look at the clock twice, it almost never remains the same time. During the day ask yourself "Am I dreaming?" and then look to a clock or watch or use some sort of reasoning to realize your not. This will make it so when your dreaming, your mind will question if your dreaming and usually you will come to the conclusion your not.
-Dream

"There's a lot of talk about "dreams" somehow being more than they are. But they're not really."

Some say that dreams are messages from God, or their psychic signals or things such as that. I don't believe that is or is not true, it very well could be. However, what dreams do most of the time is show us what lies in our subconsciousness, dreams aren't necessarily "signs", their more like hints. You have a conscience, and you often ignore it as most people do, in your dreams your conscience is trying to convey the same things it tries to tell you during the day in which your mind is too hyperactive to notice. Learn also about interpreting dreams, it's something you can learn, some have more of a knack for it than others, so you may want to find someone you trust who can do so. Interpreting dreams can save you a lot of time as you can find some of your flaws and fix them.

Wish you luck

The Protector



posted on Apr, 30 2010 @ 04:58 PM
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If you've got some money to plunk down, the biotuner from SOTA (I use an old BT5-PRO) had me dreaming so lucidly after about three weeks use that it got really tiresome.

You'd think that controlling your dreams would be fun, but after you play "head movie" for a while and you're left with your body asleep and most of your mind awake twiddling your mental thumbs, listening to the AC go on and off and yourself snore, you start wondering why you bothered.



posted on Apr, 30 2010 @ 05:19 PM
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When awake remember to touch a door every time you walk through one or near one and say “I am dreaming” or “am I dreaming?” This will program your subconscious mind to take control of your dream but like anything of worth, you must put in the effort and you must be methodical in this approach.

There is no need to say it out load, just whisper it to youself or think it.

It will take time but one night as you dream and you find that you should have thought twice about eating that lump of extra mature cheddar because a cheddar fuelled ogre is suddenly dragging you though a doorway by your heels, a blood thirty cheese monster with a craving for your flesh.

You will realise that it is all a dream and you will be find that within this dream you can will the universe to your desires and squash this cheddar beast underfoot - like a lump of warm cheese.

By the way I think is normal that the first few times tend to be rather pornographically silly in nature (unless I have said too much already) but before long this is passé and you will find that you are much more interested in flying or jumping over mountains or taking a trip to the moon and so on



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posted on Apr, 30 2010 @ 05:19 PM
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The subconscious unwinding doesn't necessarily dictate that a dream is telling you something you should pay attention to. But I do agree that everyone has dreams once in a while that are hinting at problems or troubles we're ignoring in our waking lives. The dream dictionary, or dream interpretation route is a very good one for Ashanu to pursue, I don't know why I didn't mention it, as I do it myself all the time.

 


I've heard of the "keep reminding yourself you're awake" technique to induce lucid dreaming. Sadly I had no luck trying that method. I actually found my way in by dictating a "dream" before I'd fallen asleep every night. Over time the line between awake-dictating, and asleep-dictating blurred and soon enough I was able to steer a dream in a particular direction.

This is where the "one or two changes and you wake up" thing came from. When I was initially exploring lucid dreams I could only change one or two things before I automatically woke up. Over time I have developed an ability to freely lucid dream, but it's not too easy for me to instigate it.

 


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I've never heard of, nor experimented with such a device, however, your portrayal of a "mind awake" and a "body asleep" leading to mental exhaustion means you were not actually lucidly dreaming, or even regularly dreaming.

The sleep state occurs in several phases, a majority of which actually cause your brain and body to speed up it's processes. That is why we dream upwards of 5 times a night, because the neurological synapses in the brain are firing off so rapidly.

I'd suggest you call and complain to the SOTA agency as they might have actually caused you some kind of neurological or psychological damage if this device was doing what you're saying it did.



posted on Apr, 30 2010 @ 05:57 PM
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Dream Control is my specialty. After much experimentation, I've come up with 4 simple rules that dream control is based on.

1. Everything requires your attention to exist.

2. The more attention you give something, the more related detail it creates

3. Strong Emotions have a powerful influence over everything in your dream

4. All new elements or changes in dreams strictly follow your own personal archetypes (not beliefs or expectation)

That's pretty much everything you need to know about dream control. I go over those rules in more detail in the following thread: www.dreamviews.com...

Learning how to focus your attention is what it's all about, and selecting what you want to focus on instead of just becoming distracted by random things.


As for how to achieve lucidity, I think it has to do with separating yourself from the dream plot and not going along with everything on auto pilot. Many people use different "reality checks", but they are mostly just different forms of what Castaneda called "Not Doing", or what some Buddhist traditions call "mindfulness". They all involve questioning your reality and breaking that habit of doing things on auto pilot. You can practice this by doing things differently, like brushing your teeth with your left hand instead of your right, or starting from the top instead of the bottom. What's important is that you have to stop and think for a moment to come up with something new.

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posted on Apr, 30 2010 @ 05:57 PM
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Oddly enough, parts of my head WERE dreaming. It was sort of like watching a drive in movie. You could pay attention to it if you wanted to, or alter it, or just divert your attention from the dream while knowing it was still going on over...there... somewhere in your head.

The more amusing/disgusting bit was feeling yourself dream as well, little finger twitches, rapid eye movements, the whole thing.

But when the dream part's over, you're still stuck there listening to yourself snore.



posted on Apr, 30 2010 @ 06:19 PM
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I'm not sure about lucid dreaming but I definitely have experienced dreams in which I understood I was dreaming and actually had some control over the content. For some reason this seems to occur mostly in "recurrent" dreams - sometimes I've had basically the same dream numerous times with different - sometimes directed outcomes.

"Look at your hands"... was the advice of old Don Juan.


gj



posted on Apr, 30 2010 @ 07:34 PM
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You've really piqued my interest with this device which is capable of combining lucid dreaming, hypnosis, and a bit of the discoincidence that typically leads to an out of body experience, or astral projection.

Would you be able to elaborate on these devices at all for me/us? It sounds really interesting.

~ Wandering Scribe



posted on Apr, 30 2010 @ 08:45 PM
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The original BT-5 Pro was designed (IIRC) by Dr Bob Beck, who was a researcher into bio-electric phenomena. The BT-5 Pro has a lot of uses, among the claims for it are increased concentration, increased IQ, the ability to sort of stifle the stray thought uproar in your head, better memory recall and it's also bonzer for hangovers.

It has a few interesting side effects. One is that you sleep better, at the time I was having really bad issues with staying asleep and was damned if I was going to take Trazodone which the VA was promulgating as a fix. Both that and what the Army was euphemistically terming "asymptomatic inappropriate situational awareness", which was a nice way of saying I had a mild case of agoraphobia. The BT-5 is good for both, or at least that's what the scuttlebutt was at the time. And it was. It worked great, it took a couple of weeks, but after you get used to the way the thing feels, you get to liking it.

Other things it is apparently good for is addiction/alcoholism, which I didn't have an issue with, but a lot of people were using them for that.

A biggie is that a LOT of people using it gain access to their dream states. Not everyone, and it wasn't what I really was after, but I was one of the ones it worked for.

A clip from another site:


"Some sites that sell the device do actually mention lucid dreaming as a positive benefit. However, as I was researching the product, I also read several articles that spoke of it as a side effect. For example:

"The most troublesome side effect that has been noted almost universally is that it stimulates lucid dreaming. Some people who have been shut off from their dreams are a little alarmed, at first."

And in another article:

"Users of the BT-5 have reported startling memory transformations. A woman of Dr. Beck’s acquaintances suffered a spinal block 25 years ago and was unable to recall phone numbers or addresses. After using the BT-5 for a single day she remembered phone numbers from even 20 years earlier. Dr. Beck claims amazing things for the memory. 'They’re just there. It also a specific for stress reduction, anxiety, depression, insomnia.'

There appears to be an overdose plateau: Forty minutes realizes good results, forty-five won’t do damage, but it undoes the benefits.

An interesting side effect of the BT-5 pertains to lucid dreaming. Memories of dreams can be vivid and persistent. This could be an ideal device for dream researchers."


It's true, you can overdo it, in which case you end up like I was, routinely stuck in the mind awake/body asleep state which OOBErs would kill for, but it's not very restful.

About 30 minutes did the trick for me. It's real easy to keep resetting the thing for another 10 minutes at full power. Sort of a masochistic thing, I guess.

edit: In case you don't know about the basics of the thing, mine is a little beige box about the size of a cigarette pack. You plug in what looks like a stethescope headset, but instead of earphones, it's metal balls on the end. You lube 'em up with tak-gel, and put them in the little hollows under your ears. Then you start at "0" and rev the thing up until it's just starting to get uncomfortable. It sends tiny pulsed electric currents into your head. If you turn it up a bit too high it'll start contracting your neck muscles a little. The sweet spot is just below that.

These days, the BT7 (that's what SOTA instruments is selling these days, much more advanced) clips onto your earlobes instead. Mode 1 is BT5 Pro mode. I'm not sure what the other modes do. I've got the manuals for both the BT5 and BT7 as PDFs, not sure where to post them so you guys could read it.


ps - got to dig mine out and dust it off, haven't used it in years.

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[edit on 30-4-2010 by Bedlam]



posted on May, 1 2010 @ 12:03 PM
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you guys have been great stars for everyone



posted on May, 1 2010 @ 02:28 PM
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Try and buy calea zacatechichi or the African Dream root online. There have been reports of more lucid dreaming, and intense dreams. They are both perfectly legal, and healthy when made into a tea



posted on May, 4 2010 @ 07:49 PM
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Originally posted by Maddogkull
reply to post by ashanu90
 


Try and buy calea zacatechichi or the African Dream root online. There have been reports of more lucid dreaming, and intense dreams. They are both perfectly legal, and healthy when made into a tea

i might do that but is it expensive?



posted on Aug, 6 2010 @ 06:22 PM
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is it possible for two spouses to be in the same dream together while lucidly dreaming?? my wife is a psychic medium and we both can communicate via esp



posted on Oct, 5 2010 @ 09:45 PM
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What i do is keep reminding my self that i will succeed in controling my dreams or astral project. I believe it.
Before i go to sleep i set an alarm, i take a while to actually fall asleep so i set the alarm to go off a hour and half later. Then i begin to think about a dream i had, a strong dream that you can remember well. Relaxation is very important. I think of this dream and how i would like to be there again. I begin to feel i want to be there and need to be there. Then i fall asleep and i enter the dream, if i dont the alarm will wake me up. When i wake up if i can remember i will write it down. Then i set the alarm to go off again. Second time i set the alarm for 4 hours but thats just my pattern. So the second time i go to sleep i repeat the same. I keep thinking about the same dream all week. On one occasion i was walking down a street whilst dreaming and i saw 3 or 4 men coming up to looking like they wanted to assualt me. I didnt know what to do. There was a lamp post behind me, i looked at it from bottom to top and i began to flap my arms and could fly. I flew up to the top of the lamp post and started to laugh, i couldnt believe it, it was at that moment i realised i was dreaming and i took off to the clouds. I was flying through the clouds! Now when i want to lucid dream i always think about that dream and feel it before falling asleep.
Keep a journal, very important. Believe.



posted on Oct, 7 2010 @ 10:45 AM
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Practice, practice. The best time to practice controlling your dream is in those rare times where you're kind of half-awake. At least for me, it just took a lot of practice. I used to have some seriously bad nightmares when I was younger.

Down side is though, you almost get too good, in that at some point, you want the thrill in the dream, but since you have that little voice butting in that reminds you that you can change it....not so dangerous anymore.



posted on Oct, 7 2010 @ 10:49 AM
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Sure I should be an expert. Because I always remember my dreams and it's simple to control them.
What I do is rethink the dreams I had before, think while I dream about my surroundings in the dream, if I can write down the major stuff like names, appearances and what not. This is pretty much what I do all the time. I just think non stop about things. As well when I do dream which is common. I think while I dream. So there's like two of me in different areas.



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