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Originally posted by ProudBird
reply to post by FoosM
So....you just now learning who Clark McClelland is?? I thought you were a self-professed know-it-all on everything NASA?
In any event, the man did work at NASA, and not once does he "spill the beans" about Apollo. He truly believes in the ET presence, and a NASA cover-up of that (whether true, or not doesn't matter...he believes it, and is trying to profit from it).
Yet, an even bigger "story", such as his "insider" status ---- if he were to claim that Apollo was "hoaxed"?? He's desperate for money, but he knows it was NOT a "hoax"....because if it were, and he decided to "tell all", he'd be financially set, wouldn't he?
As we walked slowly towards our destinations, I briefly explained what I had learned since 1947, the initial year I entered my UFO research. I briefly related what I knew regarding the Roswell case and that I had become more aware of it many years later at the Cape through several discussions with ABMA (Army Ballistic Missile Agency) personnel who were at White Sands Proving Grounds near Roswell, New Mexico in July, 1947. These men had worked directly with Dr. Wernher von Braun and his team of German Scientists who were at that base at that time. Onizuka said he was aware of that case.
I then told him my belief that life does exist among the stars and that it has visited earth throughout human history. He smiled in agreement. I thought to myself, what else does he know? Soon it became very clear...
He and this group were at this base for specialized training when they were directed to report to a viewing room. As they were seated, the room darkened and a movie began without the usual official introduction by a USAF officer.
They were all startled when a view of a facility similar to a medical examination room appeared on the screen and small bodies were observed lying on slabs. He heard several excited comments by the other officers seated near him. The small, strange looking creatures were humanoid in shape, and appeared similar to those described by alleged witnesses at the well-known Roswell site in the Southwest USA in 1947. They all had large heads, large eyes, slight torsos, arms, and legs. They did not appear to be of earthly origin.
During my long years of service in our national space program, I was very fortunate to come to know and exchange some very exciting data with former German scientists, who had been brought to the USA under Operation Paper Clip following WW II. These men were the elite of the German rocket programs controlled by Adolph Hitler. On many occasions I had the distinct privilege of speaking with Dr. Wernher von Braun, the leader of the elite group, and several other scientists who were assigned to the ABMA (Army Ballistics Missile Agency) launch crews at the Cape Canaveral launch sites. Eventually, these same men were incorporated into the new National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) organization. During the periodic MFA (Manned Flight Awareness) meetings that were held at Cocoa Beach, I was able to talk freely and briefly with such scientists, particularly Dr. von Braun... On this night, I asked him a question concerning the Roswell Incident that caused his eyebrows to raise.
Did the Roswell Incident in fact happen, was an alien craft recovered along with alien bodies? Did you have a chance to go to the crash site?"
Dr von Braun was a cigarette smoker and he lit one up. He thought for a second, then proceeded to talk freely about his inspection of the crashed craft.
Originally posted by ProudBird
reply to post by Ove38
Oh, really??!
No, this could have been filmed in any desert on earth.
A brightly lit landscape, but a deep black sky? How?
Also, in any desert on Earth there are plants. You see them in your own picture.
You mean that crater that they tried to pass off as soil displacement from the Apollo lander?
This is one of Jarrah White's best evidence
Originally posted by ProudBird
reply to post by Ove38
That is the video where his alleged "expert" is not.....he LIED about that woman, and her credentials.
She is his teacher, playing a role, to help him out.
Oh, and Jarrah White's "odyssey" on this path began way, way back then....it's one of his earliest. You see, on a lark, for a school assignment, he made his first video....and when it garnered so much attention, he was surprised.
He had been previously unaware of the memes out there in "conspiracy hoax-nut" land re: this topic.
Ever a clever fellow, he saw an opportunity to revive his flagging entertainment career aspirations.
How's that working out for ya, Jarrah?? (Just in case he peeks in here on occasion.....).
Originally posted by Ove38
They used wires and the revolving (or tilted) room trick to get the gravity effects in the NASA Apollo clips
No, this could have been filmed in any desert on earth.
Film trick. They just removed the plants.
Originally posted by DJW001
reply to post by Ove38
This is one of Jarrah White's best evidence
Have you actually read any of this thread?
You guys think maybe NASA has copies of the press conferences in their Library?
Refute the evidence
How does that affect the video evidence presented ? There's still several light sources.
How does that affect the video evidence presented ? There's still several light sources.
Originally posted by jra
No, this could have been filmed in any desert on earth.
So now it's filmed in the desert and no longer in tilted rooms?
All kinds of film tricks were used, just like in the 1968 Space Odyssey film
Originally posted by DJW001
reply to post by Ove38
How does that affect the video evidence presented ? There's still several light sources.
You can skip ahead 50 pages to here:
www.abovetopsecret.com...
I saw nothing that refutes the evidence.
Originally posted by ProudBird
reply to post by Ove38
How does that affect the video evidence presented ? There's still several light sources.
Here is an update video posted by one of them, "philwebb59".