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Originally posted by DJW001
reply to post by FoosM
You have yet to explain how a seated astronaut with a PLSS could turn around to stow away an item.
And you have yet to explain why they couldn't.
On the Apollo rover, the astronauts couldn’t go in reverse because they couldn’t see where they were going. They couldn’t turn around or look over their shoulders like you would in a car. But with the lunar truck, the astronaut can turn completely around on the vehicle – backwards is the new forwards.
Did you really need me to provide such obvious information DJ? Please, anybody can see you cant turn around in the rover! DJ simply cant, or refuses to put one and one together to figure out the obvious problem staring him right in the face. He is blind to any criticism towards the Apollo missions. Everything makes sense to him no matter how outlandish. The Apollo fantasy must live on in his mind as a fact.
Originally posted by DJW001
reply to post by FoosM
Did you really need me to provide such obvious information DJ? Please, anybody can see you cant turn around in the rover! DJ simply cant, or refuses to put one and one together to figure out the obvious problem staring him right in the face. He is blind to any criticism towards the Apollo missions. Everything makes sense to him no matter how outlandish. The Apollo fantasy must live on in his mind as a fact.
You're quoting a secondary source.
He didn't need to turn around completely, just enough to chuck the tool behind him.
Yes it does, the whole reason you want to imagine this astronaut chucking tools is because we cant see this tool anywhere else in the photo. Not next to him, not on the ground. And again, why throw something away you will use later?
In any event, that still doesn't rule out his placing it to one side... or simply dropping it.
Now: why do you think this sequence was done with miniatures? Why was it storyboarded in such a bizarre fashion? Why did they not edit it out if it was a mistake?
Why do these obvious flaws in your theory not seem to cause you to question your own assertions? Everything makes sense to you no matter how outlandish. The Hoax fantasy must live on in your mind as a fact.
What is your answer, men landed on the moon and captured impossible actions on 70mm photos?
Originally posted by ignorant_ape
reply to post by FoosM
it is entirely possible (for an astronaut) to place an object behind (him) without turning around
Originally posted by ignorant_ape
reply to post by FoosM
it makes perfect sense - the astronauts could operate valves on the bottom of the PLSS
Originally posted by ignorant_ape
reply to post by FoosM
why are you intentionally dishonest ? if you can operate the PLSS valves you can put other objects behind you - its really quite simple
But if you want to make the statement that a sitting astronaut, with a PLSS, could place a long tool behind him without turning around. Please go right ahead. Make that statement here for all to see.
Originally posted by DJW001
He could easily have raised it beside his head and let it slide down behind his back. Thanks!
Oh come on stop playing around. Lets get serious here. I dont think you believe what you just wrote.
Originally posted by DJW001
Do you believe everything you have ever posted? Shall we walk down Memory Lane?
Can you let just one statement stand without strawmanning it and JAQing off? Just one. I think it would be a refreshing and novel experience for you.
Originally posted by FoosM
Originally posted by ignorant_ape
reply to post by FoosM
it is entirely possible (for an astronaut) to place an object behind (him) without turning around
fixed.
Now does that make any sense?
Protip: Someone's moving the goalposts. I'll leave you to guess who.
Originally posted by nataylor
reply to post by FoosM
Not sure how that's a "fail." We were talking Apollo 8's use of 2485 film (which was to be used in orbit, obviously, as Apollo 8 never landed on the surface). You asked why that film wasn't used on other missions, I pointed out it was. I really don't get what photos taken from the surface have to do with anything.
FoosM, you seem to be calling DJ a liar. Are you calling him a liar? If not, then what are you calling him?
Originally posted by FoosM
Originally posted by DJW001
He could easily have raised it beside his head and let it slide down behind his back. Thanks!
Oh come on stop playing around.
Lets get serious here.
I dont think you believe what you just wrote.
Originally posted by 000063
FoosM, you seem to be calling DJ a liar. Are you calling him a liar? If not, then what are you calling him?
Originally posted by FoosM
Originally posted by DJW001
He could easily have raised it beside his head and let it slide down behind his back. Thanks!
Oh come on stop playing around.
Lets get serious here.
I dont think you believe what you just wrote.